USA Charging station Network Experience: ChargePoint Network

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Today I was out riding my bike in Pleasant Hill, CA looking for an outlet to steal a bit of power from while I ate some lunch. Instead I found a ChargePoint system in the city hall parking lot. It said for Electric vehicles only so I figured I would give it a try. The system is pretty cool. I had to call the number on the box and they did a remote Unlock, inside is just a standard 120v plug setup for 15 amps. The guys said there are a couple stations in the area that give 240v 30a. Since there are quite a few in my area I went ahead and signed up and they will send me a RFID card to automatically unlock. I will be able to look online and see how much power I used while charging. A lot of these stations are free but they can set them up as pay system. Pretty cool.

Check out their site here:

http://www.mychargepoint.net/
 
That's awesome, although I think it's going to be a long before we see that in most states. CA is like a different country...


Is what we really need is secure bike parking with charging outlets, such as in city centers.
 
veloman,

This may sound dumb but wouldn't lockers the type they offer at bus stations be a better solution for a city based charging station... remove key, insert battery pack... plug into AC recepticle inside close locker door and walk away to go lock up your bike?

Granted it would require removable batteries which no Car is going to ever have (well not in my lifetime) but most of us eBikers can remove our packs fairly quickly for charging off vehicle.

-Mike
 
I would think that the liability insurance for that would be horrendously expensive, and, the charges would essentially be unmonitored. The municipality's lawyers would have a heart attack just considering all the stuff they be liable for. :)

Looking forward to thousand of these stations being available though!
Not here in NYC, of course. LOL, it's still illegal to even ride an e-bike. :cry:
 
Yeah but the main problem with using a bike to commute in the city is the chance of it getting stolen. Check out the videos on youtube of a guy cutting off his own locks to get his bikes with people watching and helping him. (purpose was to show how easy it is to carry bolt cutters or a power tool and steal a bike). With a secure bike locking station, it'd be next to impossible to steal a bike. You might as well have the charging outlets right there.
 
Here in the Netherlands I have a secured roofed parking facility with power outlets 500 meters from my home (not used as charging station but for the attendant accommodation) but if you would ask for a charge I do not think it will be a problem. Your bike will be tagged and all. And it's free. And 1 kilometer there is another one, also free. They even let mopeds and scooters park for free as well.
 
veloman said:
That's awesome, although I think it's going to be a long before we see that in most states. CA is like a different country...


Is what we really need is secure bike parking with charging outlets, such as in city centers.


Well they are in a couple other states but what they need at minimum is a locking loop attached to the side of these units for guys like us :

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I also tried out there Iphone app which is pretty cool. It give live charging status spec like Kwh used, elapsed time, Green house gas offset :roll: but still cool. I also received my RFID card in the mail and that really works great to do unlocks, no more calling. So far all the units in my area are free so I really can't go wrong. I've even seen a couple electric cars in the area now since I've been going to the stations. Now that I am all signed up I can also get my historical usage information when I use their stations.

See batteries need to get cheap enough that I can just charge at one of these stations all day, go home, plug in my house and use the power I accumulated though out the day in my car ;)



I think a big issue with charging at a bike station is fire hazard. We have all these members here who are reverting back to Lipo and no BMS etc. I could just see it in the news: Electric bike burns down bike garage, 1200 bikes destroyed.
 
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Subject: USA Charging station Network Experience: ChargePoint Network
by keselein » 12 Jan 2020 02:47

Today I was out riding my bike in Pleasant Hill, CA looking for an outlet to steal a bit of power from while I ate some lunch. Instead I found a ChargePoint system in the city hall parking lot. It said for Electric vehicles only so I figured I would give it a try. The system is pretty cool. I had to call the number on the box and they did a remote Unlock, inside is just a standard 120v plug setup for 15 amps. The guys said there are a couple stations in the area that give 240v 30a. Since there are quite a few in my area I went ahead and signed up and they will send me a RFID card to automatically unlock. I will be able to look online and see how much power I used while charging. A lot of these stations are free but they can set them up as pay system. Pretty cool.
ChargePoint allows the owner of stations to set the rate for the electricity.

At our local community center in Santa Cruz (the pool) they have the rate set to $0/kw... so... if you just tap something like a PayPal card (with no account associated) it will unlock the charger. IIRC this charged me a buck (a hold) and I never looked to see if the hold cleared or not -

But the point is, you are then metered at a rate of $0/kw
So - it is effectively free

... At the University (UCSC Marine Center) they charge something like $0.25/kw - that is nothing to charge a bike.

You can download an App from ChargePoint that will show you where all of the chargers are that are on their network. This includes non-ChargePoint hardware. I do not know if the app reports the rate at given chargers, but it varies greatly.

Onboard Charging for an Ebike is mission critical if you want to actually get anywhere. If you are willing to do some work, it is quite easy to get 1KW+ charge rates for 2lbs of box in your backpack (I have many threads on using high end AC-DC pull-down equipment). Usually you just need some really aggressive fan cooling and you have to keep them dry.

I support Lambda Equipment because the power density is insane, they are isolated, they are modular. Meanwell is a good value, low cost option - but they are larger, heavier, etc. If you want anything waterproof it is going to be like a third the power. Potting is heavy.

... Make sure you have a CA or other monitoring device. The best thing you can do for yourself is lower your current limit off the line when the bike is most inefficient. "Cruising" an ebike can get your wh/Mile from like ... 50 or 80, down to 20... tho for me, I prefer the ability to quickly accelerate to avoid danger.

Good luck on your adventures and be very aggressive about interacting with traffic. People will run you over.

-methods
 
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