vacuum builds?

What might your intended useage be?

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I have a brandnew DYSON, mid range model,paid like $800
it's really a pile of shit.. So I don't blame you for want to build one.

Iv even thought of just using a beefy wet and dry vac for my household cleaning but never tried it
 
silviasol said:
I could only assume a large brushless motor would make enough suction to be illegal to sell in retail vacuums. Has anyone on here built a vacuum or modded one yet?
Regular household vacuums are cheap and even available for free if you want to take the effort to repair a broken one.
In Kansas City (here), trash goes to the curb. That means people put out the trash by the curb in front of their houses for the trash trucks to pick up. This is a terrible system for trash removal because it makes for an ugly neighborhood, but it provides the opportunity for recycling appliances.
The problem with a vacuum is usually something simple, like a full bag,a clogged hose, or a broken belt. That's how I get my vacuums.
A typical US household vacuum has a universal motor 120 V that can run on AC or DC. These motors are loud but light weight. I've always considered them the incorrect choice because of the noise. Dogs usually don't like running vacuum cleaners. This is perhaps because they produce a undesirable high frequency sound, beyond our hearing range.
If you want to plumb your house to make a vacuum system, if it's possible, I recommend doing it non-conventionally. Instead of the usual arrangement of installing tubes and a central vacuum pump, find a way of slightly pressurizing the house (maybe with a couple of window fans with the flow pointed inward), and make exit holes in the walls to attach the hoses. In that way, you never need to empty a bag. This might be the illegal suction you're worried abut.
 
I can only guess that the OP is referring to a recent EU ban on retailing/importing vacuum cleaners with motors exceeding 1600W. It's all part of the eco-design directive intended to reduce electricity consumption in areas that are identified as needlessly wasteful. It seems many vacuum cleaners aren't very efficient at the moment, so the intention is to force manufacturers to deliver more suck for fewer watts.

The limit is being reduced to 900W in 2017. Dyson is campaigning for a 700W limit.

It should be good news if you want an effective cordless vacuum cleaner.

If that's not it, I have no idea what the OP's cryptic post refers to...
 
nechaus said:
I have a brandnew DYSON, mid range model,paid like $800
it's really a pile of shit.. So I don't blame you for want to build one.

Iv even thought of just using a beefy wet and dry vac for my household cleaning but never tried it

All I see is DYSON ads,on tv. I have one and I agree, Crap.
Over priced qnd heavy.
I wish I kept the Hoover or Eureka.

I like the pic of climbing a wall. What do you do when the battery gets low :?: :!: :?: :!:

Dan
 
I also bought a dyson, the second best dc40, I do like it but for the on sale price of $400 I am wishing I bought the less attractive shark model that says it has the same suction for I think just over $200. It is noticeably more powerful then my last vacuum and I can use just the plastic part with the extended hose to deep clean my carpet which is not the shag style, it is old/matted down so the spinning brush doesn't really do anything. So my idea is just a simple non brushed style like this with just a whole ton of suction. I mean illegal for home safety or whatever the fcc or whatever the goverment will allow, I wonder if they already have this suction at max with many vacuums and dyson just exaggerates all of their twice as much suction or whatever they claim. Anyways I would assume rebuilding an old vacuum with a different motor wouldn't do much unless you changed the turbine/fan or whatever creates the suction, have it tuned to the speed the motor will run.
 
Dyson had us changing the filters every 3 weeks instead of 3 months. When that didn't work, they decided our dust was the wrong sort and stopped honouring the warranty. This was in the hotel, on the top floor of the brand new maternity unit. Not somewhere you would call dirty.

They definitely suck.





The fans in upright hoovers typically work on the dirty side, where debris is present. Tightly fitting parts can't be used. They are very inefficient fans, but good at shifting dirt. Efficient fans need to be on the clean side of the bag, like cylinder hoovers.
 
Their last models looked like some kind of frankenstein vacuum, this new model looks futuristic with the ball type rolling device deal which really made waves. The ball rolling thing does not even work like they make is seem, my last vacuum turns just as easy even if you can't make sharper turns with it. If you want to make the sharper turn then turn it back to go strait forward it is just as much stress on your wrist as vacuums that do not have the ball manuver deal. Dyson, yes your vacuum functions differently but you spent all this time designing something that doesn't even matter other then for looks! And the plastic it is made of is cheaper looking then you see in the commercials or on the box. This is just a vacuum to have women want to buy it so they have a fancy looking vacuum, or I don't know what goes thru their head on why they want to make them like this and also claim all this outragous lies about how they function twice as good as other vacuums. But I have yet to have any problems with my dc40 and do like the extra suction, which is I would say a third more then my old vacuum which was probably a $200 model from the late 90's, and bagless design it has.
 
One of the best vacuums I ever had was a 60s Rexair with all the attachments, but their sales strategies and high prices raise questions. It was said that you could even paint your car with it. :pancake: Now we have an Oreck XL, our second one. The biggest problem is getting someone to actually use it. :lol:
 
Okay, if you're seeking the heavy artillery mode vacuum, 6.5 horsepower for just $99. If your washing machine dumps its' drain cycle, this thing will vacuum up more water than your laundry unit can hold.

As Tim Allen would say, 'Looking for MORE POWER.'

http://www.lowes.com/pd_549707-20097-9313211_0__?productId=50159055&Ntt=shopvac&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dshopvac&facetInfo=
 
Maybe they measured using Shetlands, so they had to use more of them? ;)
 
Hi,

A friend bought a shop vac from someone who made them himself about 1980. He said it was superior to any commercial vacuum on the market. You will get some hits if you Google "diy vacuum cleaner" or "diy shop vac", which seems like a good place to start.
 
Not that it matters much but using a Dyson vacuum cleaner voids many carpet manufacturer's warranty. Too much suction. It can pull the yarn right out of the backing.

http://kernscarpets.com/uploads/Editor/Docs/Kerns_Carpets_Carpet_Warranty_6-9-12.pdf

Kerns does not recommend a vacuum brand. However, Kerns & the flooring industry do not recommend using Dyson . Dyson vacuums can cause excessive piling & void your warranty. For additional information, The Carpet & Rug Institutes (http://www.carpet - rug.org) Seal of Approval Program offers information & ratings on vacuums.
 
Eclectic said:
Not that it matters much but using a Dyson vacuum cleaner voids many carpet manufacturer's warranty. Too much suction. It can pull the yarn right out of the backing.

http://kernscarpets.com/uploads/Editor/Docs/Kerns_Carpets_Carpet_Warranty_6-9-12.pdf

Kerns does not recommend a vacuum brand. However, Kerns & the flooring industry do not recommend using Dyson . Dyson vacuums can cause excessive piling & void your warranty. For additional information, The Carpet & Rug Institutes (http://www.carpet - rug.org) Seal of Approval Program offers information & ratings on vacuums.


that is indeed interesting.

something i would never of thought about.
 
That's surprising about Dyson and the carpet... In my experience most wear on carpet seems to result from incomplete or infrequent cleaning, combined with traffic. If your carpet is dirty then it'll wear out really fast. Then again, I haven't owned carpet for more than a 5 year period...

My parents have had the same carpet in their home for 16 years and it's not noticeably worn-- they used a Riccar weekly but also get a ridiculously oversized central vacuum out of a commercial building.

Riccar makes some buy-it-for-life quality vacuums.
 
Actually - what the carpet is made of is most of it. Polyesters will mat and stain very quickly, nylons will last for a long time.
 
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