Waterproof Connectors for Q100c CST/Controller/Display ?

[ScooterMan101]

I have been to bms battery website several times lately and I see , No , Pictures of the Controller and Display for the Q100c cst,
with the cleaner looking waterproof connectors . ( the same connector like what is at the end of the short wire harness coming out of the motor. )

Do all the Controllers and Displays now have the more simple , waterproof connectors on their ends ?

Has BMS Battery just not changed the pictures ?

Who has bought just the bare motor, and added in the shopping cart , the corresponding Controller/Display/Pas/inline Brake switch ?
Have they come with all the newer connectors or the older connectors which are different for each part ? like the old system.

Or is it another vendor that is selling all the parts with the cleaner/waterproof connectors ?

 

[motomech]

The first time I saw what you are describing was @ the MXUS factory site;
http://www.mxusebikekit.com/shop_show.asp?cid=46
I believe it's called a "water resistant" kit and I have since seen it @ other Factory sites.
In the case of BMS Battery, I believe you are looking @ the new central motor kits.
I don't think the actual connectors are available anywhere.
One could use a 9-pin connector at the controller, or better yet, simply hard wire(solder) those juctions as a proper system doesn't really be dis-connected there.
Note that these kits are called water resistant, not water-proof for a reason.

 

[ScooterMan101]

Here is the , Water Resistant , Connectors I am talking about, for reference the ones you see on the Sonders Controller, notice how clean they are,
not the usual several different shape and different pin style, you see on a typical Chinese Controller .

Here is a link to the Sonders Controller ... http://genuinesondorsauxiliary-com.myshopify.com/products/controller-unit


Do the new parts that come from BMS have the exact connectors, or the mismatched ones you see on their website ?

In other words If I were to order a Q100c CST ( that comes with that type of Connector, at the end of the wires coming out of the motor )
Would
All the other parts , Controller/Display/Inline Cable Brake Cutoff / PAS , Etc. come with the same more water resistant , cleaner looking , connectors ?

 

[Alan B]

These look like the Bafang connectors, I don't recall their real name.

There it is: Higo.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=65442

Evernote to the rescue...

 

[ScooterMan101]

Ok,

So far the motors/controllers/displays/PAS, etc. that have the Higo Connectors are ...

1) Befang mid-drives

2) Sonders Kits

Any other Mfg's / Sellers ?

Anyone here have contact with BMS ? that can find out when , or , if they are going to be selling the Q100c CST , Controller/Display/Pas/Inline Brake Line Motor Cut off ? etc with the Higo Connectors ?

 

[amberwolf]

Sorry I couldn't help.
do any of these help?

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=higo&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

 

[ScooterMan101]

I do like the look of this Poti . I am guessing that it has no spring, which is a good thing, no more tired thumbs. and you can set your speed if that is so.



"The analog poti holder has been tested and the tooling is currently being made. Made from alloy, it is black anodized and will eventually come in 2 or 3 sizes with different centre distances Handlebar/Poti. The holder is threaded, so the poti can be installed left or right side. Further options: increase = turn forward/backward and choice of no connector/JST/HIGO connector."




https://endless-sphere.com/forums/download/file.php?id=199560



https://endless-sphere.com/forums/download/file.php?id=199561


"The digital poti is still in development, 3-D models and prototypes exist, but can take a while yet."

 

[ScooterMan101]

While on the subject of a poti . ( Potentiometer )

I am ready to buy / ready to see one designed, made to fit onto drop bars.

Really instead of a round , twist poti, I want to buy one that will fit onto the brake lever of a Road bike Shifter/Brake Lever , aka STI Shifter, that will be a slide .
like what was on the old amplifiers, and radios of years past.

A slide that has enough friction that you adjust it and leave it at the setting that you want. It then also serves as a cruise control .

 

[ScooterMan101]

A Cycle Analyst with Higo connectors ?



I will have to contact Grin Technologies this week

If that is so , one more reason to Use a Cycle Analyst over other Displays being sold .

 

[ScooterMan101]

Here they are, they are called Higo Connectors, and they look to be the answer to all the cutting and soldering , and trying to put different e-bike parts together from different Mfg's .

Here is a little info on the Higo Connectors ... http://www.higoconnector.com/news/mini-connector-takes-lead-bike-connector-demand

And

http://www.higoconnector.com/products/collection/mini-b/V999K?page=2

Now what places sell controllers that have the Higo Connectors ?

and

Will BMS Battery be selling the Display and Controller , and other parts for the Q100c CST , with Higo Connectors ?

If they do not, what other Companies Sell the Q100c CST motor and Controllers/Display's , etc. ?

 

[d8veh]

BMS battery do indeed sell controllers with waterproof connector. Look at the batteries that have included controllers.

You can use this one with or without the battery:

https://bmsbattery.com/controller/698-sine-wave-controller-for-09-case-controller.html

 

[ScooterMan101]

d8veh,

That looks good , especially for people who are new at conversions, and , those of us that want to have products that are plug and play as much as possible.

by the picture I see all the wires connected to the PAS/Display/Thumb Throttle/Brake Handles. then to a long wire/connector that is single,
does that long end plug into the motor ?
and
If so , when looking at the little bottle controller, there are three wires with plugs coming out of the bottom, but a plug onto the body itself.

What do each of those 4 hook up to ?

The controller seems to be available for 36 volt or 48 volt.

I am looking at testing the 328 rpm motor in a 700c wheel, since the 201 rpm Q100c cst I have now is not getting me the speeds I am looking for , even running it at 48volts . ( I do not want to run the 201 version at 60volts or 72 volts, since that would be costly for a new battery and bigger controller, and also since someone said he ruined the gears running the 201 at those voltages )

I am light weight enough and the bike is light weight enough to not lug the faster wind motor, along with the fact that this conversion is solely for going on fast rides only. This is for Racing, not going to the store . Running at speeds of 16 mph , 17 mph and faster , really faster , most all the time.

So what speeds do I need to maintain when using the 328 rpm one in a 700c wheel in order to keep it in its efficient zone ? ( I am riding back roads, no traffic lights /pedestrians/etc. )
328 rpm version of the Q100c /700c wheel on 10s battery (36 volts) ?

Same on 12 s battery ( 44 volts ) ?

and on 13 s battery ( 48volts ) ?

Top Speeds do not mean much to me, since both on the Mac Motor, and now the Q100c cst, I like to run / operate them at less than 80% of top speed, more like 60% -70% of top speed / throttle really is the operating range I like to be at. So I really do want to test the 328 rpm one on a 700c wheel.

Note the theoretical calculations are saying more speed than what I am getting now, so I am wondering what your real world speeds are.
also thrown into this equation it the fact that the Q100c cst I am running now does like to run at 5 to 6 miles per hour ( 8.5 to 10.2 Kph ) Slower than the top speed for much better/lower wattage draw from the battery. So another reason I want to go with the faster wind motor. I do not want to run at full throttle all the time, more like 60%-80% off full throttle/amp, watt draw.

BMS battery do indeed sell controllers with waterproof connector. Look at the batteries that have included controllers.

You can use this one with or without the battery:

https://bmsbattery.com/controller/698-sine-wave-controller-for-09-case-controller.html