26650 Holders, Solder onto battery?

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Are these any good
https://www.fasttech.com/category/0/search/MTc3PUJhdHRlcnleSG9sZGVycw/?26650
I bought them, but its taking forever to get here, I think by first week in September they might get here. When I get them, I still have no way of making physical connections when I get those holders in. A solution is just to solder onto battery itself with the holders using some nominal guage wire. I have a pipe soldering iron and a regular 100W adjustable iron. I now have a roll of Roen Core 63/37 Solder so I dont think I need to use flux, the other stuff I had was 93/7 which was no good even though it said electrical, but that was from Home Depot. What do I use to clean surfaces? Walmart had some 95% isopropyl alcohol in the first aid section, would brake cleaner work?

For alternatives, I went to Home Depot today and found some PVC 1" pipe but the batteries were very tight.
In the irrigation isle they had some pipe connectors that fit well but not long enough, at most can fit 2 in and they were $2.50 a unit.

I bought some 1/4" 2'x4' wood and some L brackets that I planned on making channels for 10 series broken up into 2 lanes of 5 each. If the holders dont work out.
I bought some Neo Magnets N50 6mm x 5mm on ebay and measurements fit perfectly on end of a123's, so I will cut a piece of 1/8 (3.1mm) wood for a divider and drill a 5mm hole in the middle and will go between each battery so the magnet doesnt move around and touch casing. I have 1/2" laminated I will use as the base. My concern is there will be no airflow over batteries.

Either way I still need to make a case out of wood, if I go the 26650 holders + solder way. I think if I am quick, the 63/37 will melt fast with a hot iron.
 
What kind of cells are you using?

Some A123 cells aren't really solder friendly. The ones I have already had nickel discs spot welded to the ends so soldering was easy.

You want to make parallel groups, then place the groups in series. This keeps the cells in each group balanced.
 
a123 - m1b's
I was planning on series first then parallel b/c its easier.

I might go this way
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=69738&p=1080471&hilit=soldering+18650#p1078812

I ripped all my metal off, so maybe I should have left some on for soldering.
 
Series first then parallel makes it pretty much impossible to balance the cells or check their voltages without taking everything apart. I wouldn't do it.

You might try soldering to the end of a test cell to see if you can tin the end. I soldered a bunch of them with no issues.
If yours are bare aluminum, solder won't stick. Speed is the key with soldering. You have to complete the joint in a few seconds, then cool the end of the cell. Too long with the heat will melt the insulators (bad).
 
fechter said:
What kind of cells are you using?

Some A123 cells aren't really solder friendly. The ones I have already had nickel discs spot welded to the ends so soldering was easy.

You want to make parallel groups, then place the groups in series. This keeps the cells in each group balanced.

hi fechter do you have likes to buy lifepo4 cell that have stuff soldered to the ends so soldering is easy? i want a high discharge low watthour battery
 
My A123s from that pack are long dead and recycled. I have a few that are still working in a power tool.
 
fechter said:
My A123s from that pack are long dead and recycled. I have a few that are still working in a power tool.

i meant do you have links to 26650 that have something soldered to them to more easyly solder on them?
 
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