Are EzEbikes really made in the UK? How to verify?

[Gorillazilla]

Are EzEBikes really manufactured in the UK?

Or are they just assembled from cheap overseas, possibly Chinese parts?

They seem almost too good to be true for getting an Ebike without supporting Chinas unhealthy monopoly on manufacturing

https://www.ezebike.co.uk/why-ezebike/

How would I go about verifying whether this is true or not?

 

[john61ct]

Unless it is at least triple the price, most of its components were made in Asia likely PRC.

That ship has pretty much sailed I'm afraid

 

[donn]

The ship could be coming back into port, though. As Chinese labor gets more expensive, and as some nations start to see the advantages of restoring some domestic production capabilities and not depending on a potentially hostile power for everything.

But in (not really) answer to the question, I guess you're in a better position than most of us - an overnight rail trip to go over and inspect the works, it'll be fun and we'll really appreciate it.

 

[E-HP]

The owner's manual posted on their website for their bikes shows pics of an LCD3 (KT) display, which means they also use KT controllers. They don't have any close of pics of their motors, but I'm guessing a made in China direct drive. Loose interpretation of what "manufactured" means.

 

[Bigwheel]

"Or are they just assembled from cheap overseas, possibly Chinese parts?"

From what I can see they may do some final assembly in the UK but for sure they are 100% composed of Chinese components. It is practically impossible to find any new bicycle e or otherwise anymore that doesn't have at least some on board. You might be able to find an old Raleigh with a Sturmey Archer 3spd and stick a hub motor on it but that will still be made in Asia.....

 

[Gorillazilla]

Thankyou for the confirmation that it really was too good to be true, cheers for looking out for us

 

[donn]

It's as true as anyone would reasonably expect. Did Englishmen mine and smelt the ores, extract the oil and make plastics and paints, do up the circuit boards, make the batteries? It's possible they manufacture frames, maybe not. Maybe they just assemble. We can speculate. More of the purchase money goes to England, less to China, but of course it's irrelevant if their bicycles aren't what you need.

The Chinese thing is pernicious, for sure. There's a city in Italy, Prato, where a lot of "fashion" clothing is made - by Chinese, working in conditions that their countrymen at home wouldn't put up with, if I remember right most there illegally. The clothing says, somewhat truthfully, "Made in Italy". Likely the government has stepped in by now, but it wasn't like they didn't know. You should go visit the EzEbikes factory, see what's up.

 

[markz]

Italy is rampant with mafia and gangs, they control things but how much is the ?
When I was in Milan my backpack was opened up by a pick pocketer trying to 'help me out'
I saw some pick pocketing gangs working the steps in the plaza, they are slick and smooth.
I once got a Western Union of a big chunk of change in Barcelona, man was I paranoid. Never have I been scared in my life, except in Vancouver BC near Oppenheimer Park (near Grintechs 2nd location) with a buff, cracked out junkie on the stoop who got a little piece of me and it hurt. Luckily the fuzz were a block or two away, but I diagnoled the intersection and the adrenaline was pumping. Big & tall guys like me get little action, but I am always game.

With Brexit, things have changed in the UK. Transport drivers are scarce, import/export paper work is atrocious. Brexit was one big con job, not sure how many Brexiteers are still hanging their hat on it but there's probably a lot that regret voting to exit. Wasn't hard to see through the lies, but people are stupid and gullible. Exiting the biggest trade market to 'go at it on their own' and do better, its laughable.

Assembled in the UK makes more sense, it would bypass perhaps some duties, tariffs or taxes. But most of all its a great marketing gimmick as its fooled some of you. The same move is pulled with Made in America.

 

[miro13car]

The Chinese thing is pernicious, for sure. There's a city in Italy, Prato, where a lot of "fashion" clothing is made - by Chinese, working in conditions that their countrymen at home wouldn't put up with, if I remember right most there illegally. The clothing says, somewhat truthfully, "Made in Italy". Likely the government has stepped in by now, but it wasn't like they didn't know. You should go visit the EzEbikes factory, see what's up.

clothing still made in Italy , right ?
nobody forced Chinese to come to Italy.

 

[donn]

clothing still made in Italy , right ?
nobody forced Chinese to come to Italy.

It's unclear how they all got there. Some of them did OK, others seemed not far from slave labor. Often living in the shops where they were employed, unable to speak Italian, maybe undocumented.

My tuba was made in Italy, and to me that means it was made in a 1st world country, by a 1st world labor force with a certain artisanal tradition. You can buy a tuba made in China much cheaper. I would be real disappointed to learn that the tuba was actually made by essentially the same Chinese factory transplanted to Italy.

Whether that would be an issue in the present case I don't know; it isn't my purchase we're talking about, but I get the impression it's a a larger scale question of support for national policies, and as long as the factory isn't sending all the money back to China it wouldn't be any problem.

 

[Gorillazilla]

Does anyone know of a good battery pack assembler here in the UK?

All the best 18650 and similar cells are not even made in china, so the cell cost will be similar whether the pack is assembled here or in china.

Just the assembly work portion of the total cost will be higher.

I'd be looking for Em3EV level quality, because "buy nice or buy twice"

Plus saftey is number one concern with li-ion

 

[john61ct]

pretty despicable attitude

nobody forced Chinese to come to Italy.

Human trafficking is very common

and the definition includes deception

And the threat of violence against family members back home is common.

Might take ten years or more to get the transportation fees paid off, with interest. Plus "company store" charges for food lodging, "protection" often in league with corrupt police.

 

[miro13car]

do you have any proof of that? human trafficking in Italy?
is common where?
do not generalize like that
we are talking about Italy.

 

[john61ct]

I was responding to this reprehensible comment

clothing still made in Italy , right ?
nobody forced Chinese to come to Italy.

The problem is universally acknowledged, not just in Prato but all around Milan.

Italian officials are always claiming they're going to tackle the problem, but somehow only lip service and token efforts.

The actual crimes get outsourced to the Chinese running the sweatshops, but there is no effective enforcement by the authorities.

Too many Italian capitalists are profiting off it of course, billions of Euro, really the foundation of the area's economy.

 

[pickworthi]

With Brexit, things have changed in the UK. Transport drivers are scarce, import/export paper work is atrocious. Brexit was one big con job, not sure how many Brexiteers are still hanging their hat on it but there's probably a lot that regret voting to exit. Wasn't hard to see through the lies, but people are stupid and gullible. Exiting the biggest trade market to 'go at it on their own' and do better, its laughable.

This is your opinion. Based on your posts I think I can assert that you do not live in the UK or Europe. As such, you are not in a position to judge the motivations behind the desire not to be controlled by a faceless bureaucracy. Would anyone in the USA willingly allow their Supreme Court to be subservient to another court? I doubt it.

 

[ZeroEm]

The trucking issue is not just in the UK and would not blame it on Covid. Truck Driving years ago was a good paying job. They have been pushed into the low wage group and no with skills wants to do it any more. The on coming driver less trucks is suppressing wages and hiring but don't really know how much an issue this is.

I'm for more things being made in the country of origin and trains over trucks.

 

[donn]

I'm for more things being made in the country of origin and trains over trucks.

It's hard to be against things being made in the country of origin.

 

[Chalo]

Would anyone in the USA willingly allow their Supreme Court to be subservient to another court? I doubt it.

Six out of nine are subservient to much worse than that. Careful what you wish for.

 

[ZeroEm]

Have a truck factory just south of the City! Toyota and most of the parts come from Mexico!