BBS02 Hi-power cycles Y/N? & Montague Para Pro,First Build

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Hello all,

Im posting this as I wanted to get advice from you Guys & Gals with huge experience in the field as this will be my first build. :oops:

From Monday to Friday ill be using this build as a daily commuter to work and back of about 16miles. Will be mainly flat with a mix of mildly bumpy gravel and mud and street riding. On the weekends I love going off road, having a number of parks and woods near me ( Richmond, London, United Kindom ) and love to hit the hills dirt and muddy stuff at speed :twisted:

Thinking of using the Montague paratrooper Pro from the link below. They seem to be the cheapest I’ve found I’m just hoping they use the cycle to work scheme 
http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/51581/Montague_Paratrooper_Pro_2014_Folding_Bike

Now for the Motor and power pack and this is where I hopped your wealth of knowledge and wisdom would save me money and grief.

I was either looking at the really overpriced but modified BBS02 750watt from the link below. I can solder but would rather play and play. I think this is where the HPC really comes into its own. It has the modified motor and comes with the battery and bag that will just slide on the paratrooper which they also sell so don’t expect to many issues.
http://www.hi-powercycles.com/hpc-mid-drive-conversion-system-custom-bafang-8fun-bbs02/

The other option would be to go with an unmodified BBS02 750watt from the link below. They have end English site so delivery charges will be less extortionate but the motors will not have the same top end speed and power as the HPC version
http://www.eclipsebikes.com/bafang-8fun-bbs02-drive-750w-motor-p-1100.html

Was going to link this with the 48v 15ah Lifep04 battery pack.
http://www.eclipsebikes.com/eclipse-commute-15ah-headway-lifepo4-battery-p-1065.html

I think the HPC wins hand down for battery chemistry and modified BBS02 motors?
is it really worth the huge amount of extra money?
Was not sure of the best battery option to combine with the motor and ideas?

Or do you all think it’s a waste of money and think I should go with the standard BBS02 from eclipse

Also the other question is what components do you recommend changing on the Montague? You don’t get very good parts for your money with the Montague Suntour shocks :cry: Do we think the breaks will be able to cope with the increased weight and speed?

Still the frame is tried and tested and have seen others use the frame and I think they still have all their teeth and are not yet wheel chair bound due to the frame bucking under the increased speed and stress. Also like the idea of having my expensive bike next to my desk not out on the street waiting to get stolen.

I like my nose and arms where they are so any and all advice would be hugely appreciated.
Thanks in advance
 
They sell their motor kit without the battery on ebay so you might be able to save something by separately sourcing the battery yourself. CargoBikeKing has the same kit so see who can ship it for less. http://cargobikeking.com/products/electric-cargo-bike-custom-bafang-8fun-bafang-mid-drive-electric-motor-conversion-kit-bbs02

If you want to buy a standard BBS02, you can always buy the Raceface chainring they use and get or make a programming cable and adjust the settings yourself as well as buying a higher voltage battery pack.

Kiwi on here has just released a nice 42T chainring for these motors if that gearing suits you. http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=50104&start=4000

This is a nice eParatrooper build. https://www.electricbike.com/duty-cycle-awd/
 
Think about the weight of a LiFePO4 battery. It'll be twice as much as a Li-ion one of the same capacity, or you can get double the capacity for the same weight.
 
I've bought a BBS01 from Eclipse and the process was very smooth and quick, and they are UK-based in case of any warranty issues. We actually get reasonable prices on the BBSxx drives here. Also I only work in Teddington and have a programming cable so could help reprogram a BBS02 if you want to go that route.

Agree with d8veh, li-ion would be rather better.

Michael
 
As a BBS02 owner I would suggest you get the standard kit with a 44T chainring as this will probably do all you require.
Mine currently runs at 44.4 volt and is used on forest trails regularly without problem.
I am about to upgrade it to 51.8 volts this week as others have done recently and reported quite a power increase.
 
Hey guys many thanks for your post reply.

Questions
What is the top speed limited after reprogramming? I hear its 31mph before hand.
52v higher voltage battery does this give a better top speed? Or is it just increase range, considering the point above?
It seems like the motor tops out at 35mph-ish on flat roads. So not sure if going to the trouble of reprogramming is worth it?

48V 750W BBS02 Bafang -----New Version 16 Mosfet anyone herd any good stories on this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-...max-output-/271526025442 NEW 3 x 4" LCD Panel

Anyway I have whittled my thoughts down to these 2 kits what are your thoughts?

BBS02 48V 750W with the 50v 24.8ah 29E and it comes with the triangle bag which should go quite well with the montague.
http://em3ev.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=45&product_id=187
http://em3ev.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=35&product_id=123

Also like these as they are in the uk so less duty and postage chargers but after you mentioning the extra weight of the LiFeP04 it put me off…..should it of?

http://www.eclipsebikes.com/bafang-8fun-bbs02-drive-750w-motor-p-1100.html
http://www.eclipsebikes.com/eclipse-commute-15ah-headway-lifepo4-battery-p-1065.html

Anyway any thoughts on this motor and battery combination would be really really appreciated, it’s a huge amount of cash to be paying out :shock: and ill be living with the choice for the next 2-3 years!
Thanks again all. :D
 
I am not sure if you know that your proposed purchase from EM3EV would be buying two different batteries. One of the orders came with a battery, then your second link is for an additional battery. You can just change the one that includes a battery to be the battery you want ...

Good luck,
Lorrin
 
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