FLIGHT MH370, Missing JET
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Dauntless
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Oh, right, you expect me to believe the Professor can make batteries out of seashells but he can't fix that jetliner and get it back in the air.
Then we're supposed to believe that there's something suspicious about a commercial pilot having a flight simulator program on his computer when anyone who knows commercial pilots can tell you they LOVE flight simulators, they're the #1 customer of them. There's nothing suspicious about them running all sorts of scenarios they'd never do in real life, why WOULDN'T they simulate that?
And Malaysia expects us to believe that they said "We know nooothink, NOOOOTHINK!" for a week then says "Oh, we tracked it as it flew over us, nobody asked us SPECIFICALLY about that. . . ." and they're not in on the disappearance. I can hardly wait for the most interesting part of this whole mystery to be revealed.
Then we're supposed to believe that there's something suspicious about a commercial pilot having a flight simulator program on his computer when anyone who knows commercial pilots can tell you they LOVE flight simulators, they're the #1 customer of them. There's nothing suspicious about them running all sorts of scenarios they'd never do in real life, why WOULDN'T they simulate that?
And Malaysia expects us to believe that they said "We know nooothink, NOOOOTHINK!" for a week then says "Oh, we tracked it as it flew over us, nobody asked us SPECIFICALLY about that. . . ." and they're not in on the disappearance. I can hardly wait for the most interesting part of this whole mystery to be revealed.
TylerDurden
100 GW
Fire theory by airline pilot:
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
GCinDC
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dnmun
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the fire theory involved the copilot immediately entering the code for the nearest runway into the flight computer so they could deal with the fire without having to fly the plane. i always tought that if they had fire that the pilot or copilot would immediately key the mike and declare a mayday, in flight emergency, and then deal with the fire.
i heard that they discovered some files had been recently deleted from the computer of the pilot used for his flight simulator. stuff like that is compelling. just find it hard to believe the flight crew is responsible for this. i still think it could be a lunatic who commandeered the plane, forced the pilots outa the cockpit and depressurized the plane from the cockpit.
i cannot think straight when i get to only 13,000 ft in the mountains so i can imagine how long anyone would have to think straight in the cabin at 35,000 ft.
i heard that they discovered some files had been recently deleted from the computer of the pilot used for his flight simulator. stuff like that is compelling. just find it hard to believe the flight crew is responsible for this. i still think it could be a lunatic who commandeered the plane, forced the pilots outa the cockpit and depressurized the plane from the cockpit.
i cannot think straight when i get to only 13,000 ft in the mountains so i can imagine how long anyone would have to think straight in the cabin at 35,000 ft.
dnmun
1 PW
the malays are still refusing to allow the NTSB or FBI into the investigation. hope they don't screw up the data too bad before the grown ups can start working on this.
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Data deleted from missing pilot's flight simulator
By Gaurav Raghuvanshi
Malaysian investigators have found that some data from a flight simulator taken from the home of the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370's pilot was deleted.
"Some data has been deleted from the simulator. Forensic efforts are on to retrieve the data," Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia's acting transport minister told reporters on Wednesday.
The flight simulator was taken from pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah's home over the weekend as part of police investigation. All crew and ground staff who were involved with Flight 370 are currently being investigated, Mr. Hishammuddin said. He added that all crew and personnel are currently being treated as innocent.
The data log of the games on the simulator was cleared on Feb. 3 and experts are looking at what logs were deleted, Malaysian Police Chief Khalid Abu Bakar said at the same news conference. He declined to comment if the experts thought the erasing of the data was unusual.
Investigators haven't found anything "of significance" about any of the passengers so far, he said.
He also said that reports of an aircraft matching the Boeing 777-200 being sighted in Maldives were investigated and found not to be true.
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Data deleted from missing pilot's flight simulator
By Gaurav Raghuvanshi
Malaysian investigators have found that some data from a flight simulator taken from the home of the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370's pilot was deleted.
"Some data has been deleted from the simulator. Forensic efforts are on to retrieve the data," Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia's acting transport minister told reporters on Wednesday.
The flight simulator was taken from pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah's home over the weekend as part of police investigation. All crew and ground staff who were involved with Flight 370 are currently being investigated, Mr. Hishammuddin said. He added that all crew and personnel are currently being treated as innocent.
The data log of the games on the simulator was cleared on Feb. 3 and experts are looking at what logs were deleted, Malaysian Police Chief Khalid Abu Bakar said at the same news conference. He declined to comment if the experts thought the erasing of the data was unusual.
Investigators haven't found anything "of significance" about any of the passengers so far, he said.
He also said that reports of an aircraft matching the Boeing 777-200 being sighted in Maldives were investigated and found not to be true.
dnmun
1 PW
just heard that the prime minister of australia reported that there were two object spotted by satellite in the search area and a P3 orion is on the way and should reach the location thursday afternoon ozzie time. three more search planes sent to the location also.
wikipedia is saying the largest of the two debris pieces is 20 meters.
we should know in the morning our time.
wikipedia is saying the largest of the two debris pieces is 20 meters.
we should know in the morning our time.
friendly1uk
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The complexity of shutting off the flights comms makes the communication 4 hours later a possible hoax. Not even an elaborate one. I have no reason to believe it at all. My mind goes to the plane setting down shortly after the last known location, and not in the direction of that comms blip. Perhaps just inside the airspace they were next meant to log in too. I have no idea where that is though. If it's this country we are suspicious of then I would quit looking elsewhere. Even wreckage found elsewhere could be a plant by now.
The why question is a biggie. There is no need to of done this techy stuff if blowing it up was the plan. Something onboard was wanted. Its a common plane, such a plan could be put in to action with very little notice. If I were a real pita I would have plans in place to mount attacks on all existing aircraft types. Such contingency planning is normal for big pita's
That route looks familiar. Last time I saw such a map it was talk of china patrolling the skies over japanese islands, and japan saying how do they know who is who if china muscle in, someone will get shot down. Could china have an interest in this plane?
Be interesting to see what happens here, but I think it is too well planned. Much better coordinated than the rescue efforts.
The why question is a biggie. There is no need to of done this techy stuff if blowing it up was the plan. Something onboard was wanted. Its a common plane, such a plan could be put in to action with very little notice. If I were a real pita I would have plans in place to mount attacks on all existing aircraft types. Such contingency planning is normal for big pita's
That route looks familiar. Last time I saw such a map it was talk of china patrolling the skies over japanese islands, and japan saying how do they know who is who if china muscle in, someone will get shot down. Could china have an interest in this plane?
Be interesting to see what happens here, but I think it is too well planned. Much better coordinated than the rescue efforts.
liveforphysics
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The whole thing reeks like our own governments CIA approved "false-flag" type action plans to start wars.
If clear back in the 1960s they were writing and approving plans to murder there own American citizens by the plane - load in the name of starting wars, imagine how scruple - less they must be now.
The best thing we can do as humans, is to imagine it being found safely landed somewhere with an unharmed crew enjoying life on a remote beach somewhere.
If clear back in the 1960s they were writing and approving plans to murder there own American citizens by the plane - load in the name of starting wars, imagine how scruple - less they must be now.
The best thing we can do as humans, is to imagine it being found safely landed somewhere with an unharmed crew enjoying life on a remote beach somewhere.
dnmun
1 PW
BREAKING NEWS:
determined never to be outdone, i have a new theory. the pilot depressurized the cabin and killed all the crew and passengers and continued flying to the south pole.
the pilot had practised open ocean landings on his home computer, and the 777 is a strong airframe so the pilot was able to land the plane in the open ocean without damage so it is floating, and since there is no one alive but him, he has been able to keep the plane floating on the surface of the ocean because none of the cabin doors was opened.
the pilot has now turned cannibal and is eating the passengers, cooking them in the crew galley and opened the cockpit window to let in the sea breezes.
there is now a utube video showing the plane bobbing on the surface of the indian ocean where everyone is looking but when they finally find the airplane he intends to open the cabin doors and sink the plane.
it has to be true since you can see the plane clearly in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12-jA_869sM
determined never to be outdone, i have a new theory. the pilot depressurized the cabin and killed all the crew and passengers and continued flying to the south pole.
the pilot had practised open ocean landings on his home computer, and the 777 is a strong airframe so the pilot was able to land the plane in the open ocean without damage so it is floating, and since there is no one alive but him, he has been able to keep the plane floating on the surface of the ocean because none of the cabin doors was opened.
the pilot has now turned cannibal and is eating the passengers, cooking them in the crew galley and opened the cockpit window to let in the sea breezes.
there is now a utube video showing the plane bobbing on the surface of the indian ocean where everyone is looking but when they finally find the airplane he intends to open the cabin doors and sink the plane.
it has to be true since you can see the plane clearly in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12-jA_869sM
www.recumbents.com
10 kW
I am betting that by now there is a US nuclear submarine running silent and deep searching the latest area in a grid pattern. What else better do they have to do? Those subs have all the latest listening gear so they should be able to detect the black box pings from far away.
-Warren.
-Warren.
dingoEsride
100 kW
dnmun said:
Thats what I was thinking, then it would be classed as a (mass) murder suicide,
a shame that they didn't think to look down here sooner as the whether has been quite calm in the south west of australia up untill last night, over 100 days without rain
dnmun
1 PW
i agree. the malaysian transport authority was really deficient and the NTSB had to secretly bypass them to get the ozzies to go look out west of perth.
that debris in now about 300 miles downwind in the circumpolar current so the original area defined by the NTSB is where they will find the carcass. that is where the subs will be headed. US subs, british subs and australian subs, all listening for the pinger, they will have a buncha destroyers and antisubmarine assets deployed as soon as they can muster them out to sea. the Success is a helicopter platform for the marines i think so i bet they will be using it to tow the anti submarine sonar/listening pods in the water to listen for the pinger too.
but your fall season has just started so the next 6 months are gonna be defined by really harsh weather so they need to move as much resources there as possible.
i loved the photoshopped utube video. too good to be true.
that debris in now about 300 miles downwind in the circumpolar current so the original area defined by the NTSB is where they will find the carcass. that is where the subs will be headed. US subs, british subs and australian subs, all listening for the pinger, they will have a buncha destroyers and antisubmarine assets deployed as soon as they can muster them out to sea. the Success is a helicopter platform for the marines i think so i bet they will be using it to tow the anti submarine sonar/listening pods in the water to listen for the pinger too.
but your fall season has just started so the next 6 months are gonna be defined by really harsh weather so they need to move as much resources there as possible.
i loved the photoshopped utube video. too good to be true.
Nehmo
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Maybe.dnmun said:
But without much information, it's proper to estimate the thinking of the perpetrator
- first of beginning the procedure during the hand-off of air traffic control between Malaysia and Vietnam,
- then making peculiar turns,
- then climbing to thin air to kill off the passengers?
Dauntless
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http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2014/03/20/erin-pkg-moos-malaysia-flight-370-sightings-or-mistakes.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2014/03/20/erin-pkg-moos-malaysia-flight-370-sightings-or-mistakes.cnn&hpt=hp_t1&from_homepage=yes&video_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F#/video/world/2014/03/20/erin-dnt-flores-underwater-search-gear.cnn
So you subscribe to the 'Lost' sequel theory. . . .
I think I have it, really. Mt. GOX thought their missing Bitcoins were on the plane, so they hacked in and downloaded, sucking the guts out of the thing as they did. It stayed airborne long enough for Mt. GOX to get 200,000 Bitcoins back.
Before people make the mistake, the Bay of Pigs was an Eisenhower invasion that actually took place after Kennedy took the oath of office.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662
https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html
[youtube]5IhlNK3hEeE[/youtube]
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2014/03/20/erin-pkg-moos-malaysia-flight-370-sightings-or-mistakes.cnn&hpt=hp_t1&from_homepage=yes&video_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F#/video/world/2014/03/20/erin-dnt-flores-underwater-search-gear.cnn
liveforphysics said:The best thing we can do as humans, is to imagine it being found safely landed somewhere with an unharmed crew enjoying life on a remote beach somewhere.
So you subscribe to the 'Lost' sequel theory. . . .
I think I have it, really. Mt. GOX thought their missing Bitcoins were on the plane, so they hacked in and downloaded, sucking the guts out of the thing as they did. It stayed airborne long enough for Mt. GOX to get 200,000 Bitcoins back.
liveforphysics said:
Before people make the mistake, the Bay of Pigs was an Eisenhower invasion that actually took place after Kennedy took the oath of office.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662
https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html
[youtube]5IhlNK3hEeE[/youtube]
dingoEsride
100 kW
Nehmo said:
Why do people strap explosives to their bodies and stand in populated area's, my experience with suicides is that they try to hurt as many people as possible and for the families and friends of the passengers not knowing what happened would hurt them more, just a theory though, we may never actually know
Nehmo
10 kW
What's your experience with suicides? Were you a counselor or something?dingoEsride said:
The plane had plenty of opportunity to crash into very densely populated areas. Where it began in Kuala Lumpur would have been a decent choice.
But a suicide with the goal of being vanished is possible. But then there should be some evidence in the prior behavior of the pilot. Was either of their lives on the rocks? So far, the general public isn't getting much information on the pilots lives.
dnmun
1 PW
there is also a story about another pilot who came aboard and was riding in the cockpit deadheading on this flight.
there is also the theory about the cockpit fire from the short in the wiring next to the oxygen tank pipe that killed a 777 on the ground in cairo. the pilot of that planes said he felt it was such a bad place for a fire the plane woulda gone down right there. i also do not believe it was fire.
i think the deletion of the files from the pilots computer is the focus of the investigation now. when they recover those files it will be known what he might have been up to. they may already know and are keeping it secret.
some experienced satellite interpreters are saying the 'debris' spotted may only be sun glint also.
if they can go look for the pinger in the search area defined by the NTSB from the ICARS pings then i think they have a good chance to find it.
just too bad the malaysians stalled the investigation for week or maybe it would be farther along by now, but i think the NTSB went ahead with their investigation in spite of the malaysian prime minister's dufus behavior.
there is also the theory about the cockpit fire from the short in the wiring next to the oxygen tank pipe that killed a 777 on the ground in cairo. the pilot of that planes said he felt it was such a bad place for a fire the plane woulda gone down right there. i also do not believe it was fire.
i think the deletion of the files from the pilots computer is the focus of the investigation now. when they recover those files it will be known what he might have been up to. they may already know and are keeping it secret.
some experienced satellite interpreters are saying the 'debris' spotted may only be sun glint also.
if they can go look for the pinger in the search area defined by the NTSB from the ICARS pings then i think they have a good chance to find it.
just too bad the malaysians stalled the investigation for week or maybe it would be farther along by now, but i think the NTSB went ahead with their investigation in spite of the malaysian prime minister's dufus behavior.
dnmun
1 PW
this is the latest theory. the pilot was an aetheist so he hijacked the plane because it was full of christians, (from china):
http://www.christianpost.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pilot-followed-richard-dawkins-youtube-channel-116500/
http://www.christianpost.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pilot-followed-richard-dawkins-youtube-channel-116500/
cal3thousand
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dnmun said:
Oh My Jeebus
cal3thousand
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Tench said:
Wasn't me!!
spinningmagnets
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The news just reported that there were some LITHIUM batteries in the cargo compartment of flight MH370. Of course, they left out any other details of exactly what type (LiFePO4, LiMn, LiCo/LiPo, NCA, NCM...)
We can expect the news-hungry networks to fill air-time with so-called experts who will say that [all] lithium batteries are dangerous and risky. If I was a millionaire right now, I'd start an import business shipping (by ship) all the cell_man battery packs I could, so there was a North American em3ev.com warehouse that NA customers could order from, stocking all the most popular bits...At worst I'd break even, at best I'd make a tidy profit doing what I enjoy.
We can expect the news-hungry networks to fill air-time with so-called experts who will say that [all] lithium batteries are dangerous and risky. If I was a millionaire right now, I'd start an import business shipping (by ship) all the cell_man battery packs I could, so there was a North American em3ev.com warehouse that NA customers could order from, stocking all the most popular bits...At worst I'd break even, at best I'd make a tidy profit doing what I enjoy.
How many days left now before the batteries die? 15 days?
It's must likely some type of accident/tragedy. The odds of some terrorist attack/hijacking seem very slim. What's the point of sending a message if no one gets to hear about it?
It's must likely some type of accident/tragedy. The odds of some terrorist attack/hijacking seem very slim. What's the point of sending a message if no one gets to hear about it?
dingoEsride
100 kW
Nehmo said:
No, I have zero experience in suicides but have known people who took their lives in the most hurt full ways, Karl my uncles best friend asked to see his rifle then asked for a round, loaded then then blew his head off in their lounge room with children in the house, his head was scraped from the ceiling and walls and chucked in the tip, Louse's husband asked for my mate Tony for car key's so he could run a hose from the exhaust pipe to the cab and asphyxiated himself on her birthday and there was young Josh who did himself in with a rope just before Xmas last year,
whether this pilot was deviant enough to carry this out his way is another story, maybe time will tell
