fractured elbow today.

lbz5mc12

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Well I managed to hit a bright blue curb head on at about 15 mph. Blue is my favorite color and I managed to not see it in broad daylight. I waffled my front wheel and went over the handle bars. I had to ride an ambulance to the hospital. Luckily I crashed on a university campus. You know only one person came to my aid. What the hell is wrong with people today? Well I fractured my elbow and have to ware a sling for I don't know how long.
 
Ow! I wish you speedy healing....

Re: People--I think they're all too busy to help anyone, or else they jsut dont' care:

When in late 2005 my handlebars broke off my only brand new bike I've ever owned (later to become DayGlo Avenger), a month or so after I got it, and I went over the bars hitting a curb cuz I couldn't steer, not a single person came over to help, at a busy intersection with pedestrians and cars. I think one car slowed down and asked if I was ok, but drove off when I spoke. I forget now.

When I was really not well the first couple weeks this year, I think it was, and I tipped CrazyBike2 over on it's side while stopped at a 4-way stop, and just lay in the road with it blockign the intersection cuz I coudn't really get up (and was dazed, too), people went around me isntead of stopping to help, in the 10 minutes or so I was laying there and then crawling aroudn trying to get the bike upright again, or the next 10 when I sat there recovering....
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Owch dude!! sorry to hear that :(

OK, I gotta say it... people where you live are not so great. I spent some time out in Riverside and heard about the San Bernadino-ians... i even experienced people doing the same things out in the central coast and could not believe it.

When i crashed out here in Utah, i had multiple people pull over within seconds of the crash occurring and one dude run out of his car and pick me and my bike up.

In Oregon when i was pulled over to inspect my bike, i had people on bikes stop and ask if everything was OK with my bike..

Attitudes vary a lot from area to area. But people are not all like that, man.

Hope you heal up soon.
 
I got hit by a car a couple years back and people did stop to see if I was okay. It just seems that lately people are less helpful. I lucked out today because all that broke on the bike was the wheel. I'm pretty sure all the weight on the back of the bike kept it from bouncing up too high and then landing on me. I did end up underneath the bike now that I think of it. I basically landed on my left arm and chest. I think the visor on my helmet hit because it was a little crooked and my gloves saved the palms of my hands. I mean I've hit pavement pretty hard before but I think today was my personal best lol. I'm just glad nobody with a camera was around or else I would've ended up on You Tube.
 
Ouch! Hope you heal well, and soon. This is the problem with accidents, they truly are accidents, and invariably you land awkwardly with damage. Much different from a "crash" that results from high performance riding for fun. In the "crash" you really kind of know one is coming, or at least could be, and typically can land a lot better.

But the accident catches you completely off guard, and before you know what happened you took the landing on a wrist, elbow, or worse of all, your head.
 
I broke my elbow after a 25mph crash over the handlebars. Bashed my face pretty well too. Don't make the same mistake I did. Get the specialist to put you in a zip cast. If you don't the tendons shrink and it took me 7 months to be able to straighten my arm.
 
Most of my crashes/accidents have happened in the wee hours when nobody is around to help; which might be a blessing because around here, the people offering to help are the ones who will rob you, stab, or shoot you just for kicks. You can't trust the police, or even the ambulance to take you to the nearest hospital. They don't want you there anyway even though they have an ER because it's most likely not a trauma center so your misfortune will be a problem for them legally.
If someone helped you who didn't stab, shoot, or steal from you; you fared pretty well in this neck of the woods. Hope you get the best care possible. Our prayers for you are for a speedy and complete recovery. :wink:
 
since you were on a university campus, you were probaly ogling the scenery 8) ....modernattitude...mind your own business...dont get involved...you might lose some time.. sorry you may not be in original factory condition, but fortunately,you are repairable :mrgreen:
 
The fingers said:
Most of my crashes/accidents have happened in the wee hours when nobody is around to help; which might be a blessing because around here, the people offering to help are the ones who will rob you, stab, or shoot you just for kicks. You can't trust the police, or even the ambulance to take you to the nearest hospital. They don't want you there anyway even though they have an ER because it's most likely not a trauma center so your misfortune will be a problem for them legally.
If someone helped you who didn't stab, shoot, or steal from you; you fared pretty well in this neck of the woods. Hope you get the best care possible. Our prayers for you are for a speedy and complete recovery. :wink:

Dude, wherever you live... get out of there.. :lol:
 
neptronix said:
The fingers said:
Most of my crashes/accidents have happened in the wee hours when nobody is around to help; which might be a blessing because around here, the people offering to help are the ones who will rob you, stab, or shoot you just for kicks. You can't trust the police, or even the ambulance to take you to the nearest hospital. They don't want you there anyway even though they have an ER because it's most likely not a trauma center so your misfortune will be a problem for them legally.
If someone helped you who didn't stab, shoot, or steal from you; you fared pretty well in this neck of the woods. Hope you get the best care possible. Our prayers for you are for a speedy and complete recovery. :wink:

Dude, wherever you live... get out of there.. :lol:
sounds like a neighborhood where gun control is important.... a twim 50 should do it:roll:
 
Location of latest crash (tried to take corner too fast, bike went down, luckily my gloves, leathers and helmet saved me, and I just surfed on my belly like superman over the grass and pine needles. Thank god there wasn't a curb.)
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Well I'm havin all kinds of fun getting in and out of bed. I don't have a chair in my room so I surf the net laying down. My monitor's on the side of my desk facing my bed and my desk is right up against my bed. I have to start to lie down at the end of the bed and worm my way to the pillows using my shoulders, back and legs/feet. When I get up I have to use my left heel on the edge of the bed and my right hand on the right edge of the bed and pull myself up. I've got one of those foam mattress pads on a fairly old hard mattress and it completely complicates the process. I'm 6'3" and I way close to 350 lbs; so if anybody is starting to get a mental image I apologize lol.

I've taken prescription pain meds, Motrin 800, and a muscle relaxant but guess what has worked the best so far? Freakin over the counter generic migraine pills.

You know what's really crazy is that none of the spokes broke in the front wheel, a bunch of them just got really bent out of shape and the tube didn't pop. I had just put more air in the front tire before I left for my ride. When I feel a little better I'll post a pic of the rim. I had a closer look at the bike today and realized that the throttle cable tore apart but luckily I still have the thumb throttle/cable that came with the kit. All of my stuff is on a Currie Skyline frame and I'm telling you that's one tough little frame. I thought for sure the fork had broken when I hit but the only thing damaged is the wheel and well me.

I bet if I didn't weigh so much there's a good possibility that the wheel would have just rolled up the curb and I wouldn't be so bad off. I did the knee jerk reaction thing and squeezed the brakes when I should have pulled up on the wheel. I stilled would have crashed but it would probably be my balls that broke and not my elbow.
 
Don't let that arm rest too long, I cut a finger (14-15 stitches) about 55+ years ago, it took almost a year of ball squeezing to get normal movement back after being in a metal splint for a month.

My worst bike accident was when I was about 13 (early 1950's Cleveland Ohio) I went over the handle bars at 20+ miles an hour after hitting a hole in the road. Lucky me the road was just tared and gravel, did a belly flop, clothes cut to ribbons, skin lost from all frontal areas, except face, the neighbors called the cops, when they came they loaded me and the bike into the back of the cop station wagon and took me home. My mother took one look at me and said take him to the hospital!, and they did.

At the hospital, they cut the remainder of my clothes off down to my shorts, cleaned me up, bandaged me by rapping gauze around arms, legs, etc. (looked like a mummy) gave me bus fare to get home. The real pain was when my mother had to change the bandages my tissue had adhered to it. I still have black dots on my forearms where I guess the did not get all the stones out.

I was thinking now days there would have been the cops, fire department, parametric, ambulance, etc, and a lot of $ changing hands, back then I do not remember that they even asked were I lived, they just took care of me and sent me on my way.
 
Yeah I know what you mean. I mean we already pay taxes for all these services so why do we get charged more on top of it?

I am trying to move and rotate my arm around gradually and wiggle my fingers. They sent me home in a sling per the directions of the specialist. It seems to be giving me all the support I need. I also get up and walk around every couple of hours so I don't become to sedentary. The fracture didn't split the bone apart it just split it length wise a little.
 
Well I just had a closer look at my frame and the bottom tube is bent and creased right behind the head tube and the top tube separated right behind the weld at the head tube. This means when I heal up I have to put my kit back on my GT. I'm going to have to file my rear dropouts even deeper than I already had for one of the yescomm kits. That's one thing about the e-bikekit axles, they are very big. I'm probably going to need some good torque arms because the filing is going to make the dropouts weaker and I don't think the one from the kit is going to cut it. Any suggestions? I'm really bummed out now, that little Skyline frame was comfortable and easy to work with. I must have hit the curb a lot harder than I thought so I count myself lucky that I wasn't more seriously injured. So I have a mathematical question to pose concerning the amount of force involved in my accident. I'm 350lbs, the bike weighs about 65lbs, I was traveling between 15-20mph, the curb didn't move at all, and my question is how much force do you think I hit with?
 
He is working with roughly 9KJ of energy to be potentially breaking things with on impact, but to know the impact force, it requires knowing exactly how much time the energy was dissipated in. The front rubber of the tire collapses to help cushion, and it sounds like your rim and other parts also folded to help cushion/dissipate that energy.

I think you could safely say for a moment you had at least few thousand pounds of force on the front end assembly. Then it's own buckling moment regulated that force to something lower than the theoretical non-deforming impact.
 
I saw a doctor yesterday and I don't need surgery at least. It'll be about a month before I can start actively using my elbow again. Anyone have any good suggestions for a good but low priced, hard tail, mountain bike frame that would be good to work with an e-bikekit rear DD? Something with deep rear dropouts so I don't have to file them out? I'm looking for a 21-22" frame size. I have my GT but I don't think it'll be safe to file the dropouts any deeper.

I'm kinda wishing someone was there with a camera. With how large I am it would have been interesting to see what the force of the impact looked like in slow motion. Zoom in on the wheel and the bike frame and see how it looked. I'm not morbid just curious.
 
lbz5mc12 said:
I'm kinda wishing someone was there with a camera. With how large I am it would have been interesting to see what the force of the impact looked like in slow motion. Zoom in on the wheel and the bike frame and see how it looked...
let me zoom in it for you

Well imagine this bicycle going 15mph towards a wall. :?:
Doesn't look to good, does it?

Lets imagine another scenario that you fall of your bike and glide on the ground and the bike come over you or whatever it does.
Much better right. The difference is the g.forces. If split in less than a second forces are very dangerous towards the body as well as the impact damages. When the force is evenly spread out it is more acceptable for the human body to take the forces involed in the crash without getting to much serious life-threatening damages from it. :idea:

Good luck in the healing process, be active, eat vegetables and you'll be fine in no time.
 
lbz5mc12 said:
I saw a doctor yesterday and I don't need surgery at least. It'll be about a month before I can start actively using my elbow again. Anyone have any good suggestions for a good but low priced, hard tail, mountain bike frame that would be good to work with an e-bikekit rear DD? Something with deep rear dropouts so I don't have to file them out? I'm looking for a 21-22" frame size. I have my GT but I don't think it'll be safe to file the dropouts any deeper.

I'm kinda wishing someone was there with a camera. With how large I am it would have been interesting to see what the force of the impact looked like in slow motion. Zoom in on the wheel and the bike frame and see how it looked. I'm not morbid just curious.

I'm looking to get rid of my 2000's Trek 4500 soon. The size is 21.5". Includes some VERY strong torque plates that have taken 6kw before.

I can sell you the frame, frame plus components, or the entire bike with MAC motor sans batteries and cycle analyst.

Of course you could probably find something local and skip shipping from me, but those mod 2000's Treks are reaaaalllyy good bikes, and easy to make torque plates for ( nice flat dropouts ),
 
P.S. glad you don't need surgery. Bet you feel rich after mentally writing off all that money, then realizing you get to keep it :)
 
Actually I'd have to have the money in the first place on both accounts, bike frame/savings. My Uncle's looking for a frame for me too. He's been a bike mechanic for a few decades and I told him what I need so we'll see what happens. He works out of a bike shop in San Luis Obispo so he might be able to get something at cost. I was trying to see if anyone had any good suggestions. At this point it looks like I'm gonna have to sell one of my kidneys on the black market lol <--- or am I?

I've got more problems. I just went out and plugged in the thumb throttle. This is the first time I've tested it since the accident. The motor didn't turn on. I disconnected everything, checked my splices and inspected the outside of the controller. According to the chargers the batteries are fine and with how they were situated on the bike I tend to agree. On the controller 2 of the corners were bent inward so it took some impact damage. I reconnected everything and still nothing happened. I don't really have the ability to finely test everything; I pushed myself just doing the testing I did. I'm going to have someone local look it over and get a diagnosis/prognosis and hopefully it's something simple I missed or easily fixable.
 
Bummer. Do you have suspension on your bike? I don't know if it would of helped, really depends on the curb I am sure. What can we learn from your mistake? I am sure the obvious ideas like pay attention or be aware of the situation, anything else?
 
I was paying attention just the wrong kind. I made an assumption about a wheel chair ramp that was incorrect. I saw the blue that shows the location of a ramp and thought it was the base of the ramp. It turned out that the ramps were to either side of the blue curb in the middle. The parking lot slopes down into the gutter a little before the curb so the perspective is off so at first what looks to be horizontal is actually vertical. I've noticed that usually not only is the curb painted but so are the ramps but such was not the case they were just plain gray sidewalk color. My front fork was not the best with very little travel. I don't even think a downhill fork would've helped in this situation because of the angle of impact. I also noticed today that my seat is bent to one side even though I received no injury related to it. By the time I realized it was a curb I was about 2 feet away so there was no time to react. I kind of wish that the fork had broken because then the frame would probably still be intact. I'm just hoping that the hub kit isn't damaged. You know it happened again, I got my bike set up the way I wanted it and catastrophe struck. I just can't seem to win.
 
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