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.....so if PAS is legal in NYC then a switch on the handlebar to bypass PAS and you are set
If its a proper EN15194 pedelec PAS bike then even the mere existence of any kind of throttle would make it illegal, even having an overly large electric hub motor or mid drive thats obviously not 250w would be breaking the standard and the cops (if they knew what they were doing) would seize the bike as having any kind of weight for a ebike that maxes out at 250w would obviously sap all its practicality.markz said:.....so if PAS is legal in NYC then a switch on the handlebar to bypass PAS and you are set
Kineticman said:They need an ebike lobby in NYC/New York State! There is an extremely active bike group here in DC that continuously lobbies the city council to amend and change their laws. They are called Washington Area Bicyclist Association (WABA). The group has been very successful over the last couple decades in changing lawmakers opinions and also in building miles upon miles of new bike lanes. They even were able to get rid of some parking for bike lanes! A lot of WABA's arguments are backed by scientific studies that they have taken from other transportation studies or ones they have paid for on their own.
The rules in DC are definitely more accepting of bikes and ebikes than NYC even though there is a constant battle back and forth in this city between drivers and bikers.... but if an opposition of enough people starts pushing the city hard some things might change. These stories from NYC have definitely made me hesitant to take my ride up there to cruise around which sucks.
I know a serious biker who loves his $2-3k bike. He really likes my electric bike. One of these days I might consider biking with him just for fun. He has asked me too.ecycler said:Kineticman said:They need an ebike lobby in NYC/New York State! There is an extremely active bike group here in DC that continuously lobbies the city council to amend and change their laws. They are called Washington Area Bicyclist Association (WABA). The group has been very successful over the last couple decades in changing lawmakers opinions and also in building miles upon miles of new bike lanes. They even were able to get rid of some parking for bike lanes! A lot of WABA's arguments are backed by scientific studies that they have taken from other transportation studies or ones they have paid for on their own.
The rules in DC are definitely more accepting of bikes and ebikes than NYC even though there is a constant battle back and forth in this city between drivers and bikers.... but if an opposition of enough people starts pushing the city hard some things might change. These stories from NYC have definitely made me hesitant to take my ride up there to cruise around which sucks.
The problem is that the vast majority of bike activists are purists and absolutely hate ebikes. They are often the most responsible for legislation against ebikes!
ecycler said:Kineticman said:They need an ebike lobby in NYC/New York State! There is an extremely active bike group here in DC that continuously lobbies the city council to amend and change their laws. They are called Washington Area Bicyclist Association (WABA). The group has been very successful over the last couple decades in changing lawmakers opinions and also in building miles upon miles of new bike lanes. They even were able to get rid of some parking for bike lanes! A lot of WABA's arguments are backed by scientific studies that they have taken from other transportation studies or ones they have paid for on their own.
The rules in DC are definitely more accepting of bikes and ebikes than NYC even though there is a constant battle back and forth in this city between drivers and bikers.... but if an opposition of enough people starts pushing the city hard some things might change. These stories from NYC have definitely made me hesitant to take my ride up there to cruise around which sucks.
The problem is that the vast majority of bike activists are purists and absolutely hate ebikes. They are often the most responsible for legislation against ebikes!
ecycler said:The main way that ebikes are getting completely legislated against would be mountain bike trails all over the country. Check out BLM rules and major parks. They are all quickly jumping onboard to stop ebikes from riding, yet there have been no accidents or problems with them. It is purely the elitist bikers trying to keep rookies off their trails.
flat tire said:Elitist human bikers are a big issue but that's not totally it. A huge issue with trails is erosion and moving around of the soil.ecycler said:The main way that ebikes are getting completely legislated against would be mountain bike trails all over the country.
markz said:But look it here, police officers dont care what the law states, their job is to write tickets and dont look to obvious, trying to rack up the quota. You see they expect a certain percentage of people to just plead guilty, even though they may have a case. You see the judicial systems knows this all to well, and they bank on it.
ecycler said:The main way that ebikes are getting completely legislated against would be mountain bike trails all over the country. Check out BLM rules and major parks. They are all quickly jumping onboard to stop ebikes from riding, yet there have been no accidents or problems with them.