KT LCD8H + 36v 250/350w KT controller: PAS 5 or 9?

steve2777

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After studying options and reading forums for days, I think I want to upgrade my Hyper ebike with 3 PAS levels to KT controller and screen. I really want 9 assist levels, which is as close as I can get to torque sensing without major work or a new bike. I'm looking at the above KT items, but I'm confused. Every video review I watch shows capability for only 5 levels, but every online inquiry I do assures they will do 9. Can anyone clarify? And if it's only 5, what are some other options?
 
With 9x pas levels and a top speed of circa 20+mph and the acceleration of a 250w geared hub motor on the flat carrying less than 150kg, your probably ridding 1 handed with a finger poised over the up button to step up a pas level every 2-3 seconds.

So most will use fewer pas levels given the option simply so they can use 2 hands on the handlebars a bit more;)
 
I really want 9 assist levels, which is as close as I can get to torque sensing without major work or a new bike.
Remember that all of these things are only going to give you on/off control of the chosen assist level, which is not anything like torque sensing or even variable control via the pedals. They work by detecting that you are pedalling, at all, and then turn the motor on at the full amount of whatever that assist level allows. The throttle is the only variable control on the "assist level" types of controllers (other than those that directly support a torque sensor).



If you want to use the pedals to variably control the system, you can "simply" install the Cycle Analyst v3.x from ebikes.ca and use your existing PAS sensor to connect to it as a cadence sensor, and it's throttle output connects to your controller's throttle input in place of the actual throttle. (if you want to also have a throttle, that connects to the CA input for that).

Then you can go thru all the settings in the CA and configure it to operate the way you want it to, per it's manual (don't skip sections you think you won't use because their defaults may not be what you need).

Then leave the controller set to max assist level, and let the CA interpret your pedalling to modulate that the same way you would with the throttle.


I use this to control the heavy heavy-cargo-trike SB Cruiser. This way I have all the power, speed, etc available all the time, and simply pedal faster or slower to control how much of it I am using.


It will probably take some experimentation to get the specific response you are after, and you'll have to make sure to shift gears as needed while pedalling to maintain the cadence required for a given amount of assist, and/or set it up to give you the right amount of assist for whatever gear you're in.
 
With 3, I'm either flying ahead of my group or lagging behind. 5 would be better, but not as good.
You should try a KT system, even if it's only 5 levels, to see if you like it. Your 3 level system could be speed based, so each level represents a speed. The KT PAS is power based, so provides a certain level of power,, beyond your pedaling input. It's not torque sensing, but feels natural. The levels do equate to a speed range, so ghost pedaling is still possible id you choose a high level, but when I used a KT, I'd set the level of assist lower than the speed I wanted, and pedaled up to the speed I wanted to go.
 
Five PAS levels are enough for me on the KT displays. It depends on your gears, but you can probably use PAS1 for 10-12 mph, and each of the 4 succeeding levels can be used in the next 2 mph bracket, winding up at 20 mph for PAS 5,

If you need for some reason to ride powered at 8 mph, all but the basic displays allow you to lower the current to achieve that. Your battery/motor can probably handle a 20A controller. They sell a small 20A one, same physical size as the 17A controller, but can be hard to find. Those are what I use.
 
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