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leaning trike cargo bike front end kit

Chinese Lunar new year vacation today,the workshops rest for 1 week
 

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Hardware OK!
 

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More hardware
 

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Mass production model of export trader in cooperation
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Front end kit with tilt lock brake
 

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6 L water bottle and off road riding
 

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Weekend trips
 

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2 L water is enough for your 1 day trip or adventuring
I met a tank M24 I used to drove in army when I rode the e bike
 

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Addy said:
Thanks for sharing all your pictures! Your bike is really interesting. With all that cargo and water capacity you can go on quite a journey.
Thanks! you are so kind
Road test finds what parts are NG then improve them; I found the front brake calipers pair lost 3 of 4 bolts of them as I lost front brake today, there are no glue on the bolts,you have to glue them in assembly
 

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Replaced rear cheap worn out tire,weekend mountain trails riding

I'm gonna order a Battery pack like this for a long distance journey
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I think I found it here - bottom right: https://en.activa-ht.com/%E5%89%AF%E6%9C%AC-eu-3-0-plus - do you know how much it will cost?

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matmaxgeds said:
do you know how much it will cost?

I do!

More than a two wheeler that does the same thing.

One of the main goals of engineering is to meet the project's requirements with a minimum outlay of money and resources. So the question is, what is the requirement here? I suspect the purpose was specifically to use three wheels to do the job of two.
 
matmaxgeds said:
I think I found it here - bottom right: https://en.activa-ht.com/%E5%89%AF%E6%9C%AC-eu-3-0-plus - do you know how much it will cost?

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Between 4~5 K Euro as I know, it's just worth to save your knees from scratching to the ground when cornering and keep slow down the long slopes

My riding yesterday with all knobby tires
 

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Chalo said:
matmaxgeds said:
do you know how much it will cost?

I do!

More than a two wheeler that does the same thing.

One of the main goals of engineering is to meet the project's requirements with a minimum outlay of money and resources. So the question is, what is the requirement here? I suspect the purpose was specifically to use three wheels to do the job of two.

amusing.......unicycles for the win then!
 
matmaxgeds said:
Chalo said:
matmaxgeds said:
do you know how much it will cost?

I do!

More than a two wheeler that does the same thing.

One of the main goals of engineering is to meet the project's requirements with a minimum outlay of money and resources. So the question is, what is the requirement here? I suspect the purpose was specifically to use three wheels to do the job of two.

amusing.......unicycles for the win then!

Sure-- if you have an e-uni that does the same job as an e-cargo bike. I'd like to see that. Maybe a self-balancing Chinese wheelbarrow you can sit on?

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2 wheeler with many horsepower goes faster
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I prefer this compact tilting cargo trike walking around
 

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So what's the advantage over a two wheeled cargo bike, to justify the extra expense, weight, inefficiency?

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Chalo said:
So what's the advantage over a two wheeled cargo bike, to justify the extra expense, weight, inefficiency?

If you watched the thread carefully,you should know what advantage and why tilting trikes are much more in EU than the States
 

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I have read the whole thread, and still don't understand the purpose.

Also, why is the EU different from the US?
 
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For me the main use is for heavy loads, I have a two wheeled longtail too, but didn't fancy moving this with it! I think a Yuba Curry, Omnium or similar with one small wheel would get some of the low CoG benefits (as would a cargo trailer) but I also appreciate the two wheels for support from the side when stopping and starting (plus one more disc brake for the hills is not to be sniffed at!)

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matmaxgeds said:
For me the main use is for heavy loads
Somewhat like this I did before, but do you need the trike tilting?
 

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OK, I can see that multiple wheels allows for better stopping power.

So given a cargo bike, heavy-load out in front rather than to the rear

is that the use case?

Does the tilting increase the **speed** at which you can safely operate?

I can't imagine actually tilting that much of an angle at the 15-20mph I would operate at with a heavy load.
 
Hi - I find the tilting essential (in curves) beyond about 7km/h......my school physics says that tilting allows balancing the centripetal force by moving the CoG the other way.....whatever it is, without tilting I feel like I am riding a shopping trolley which is about to tip!

RE speed, I find the tilting much easier to control at 15mph, at slow speeds it can be very hard to control (floppy), but the product in this thread claims to have improved that with a different geometry which is my interest in following the thread.

I find that these three wheelers (especially with small wheels) do not have the killer advantage of two wheeled bikes with a big wheel up front which (especially as it goes faster, and with the right rake etc) naturally wants to go straight on which really helps keeping upright, and where micro-turning the handlebars constantly centres the bike under you to stay upright.
 
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