Moonshine's Vector/MXUS/MaxE Build

moonshine said:
So if I started seeing smoke after plugging in the second plug is it safe to assume it's dead? Is it OK to just skip that board and resume plugging in the rest of the packs on the third board?
You can skip it, but you have to configure that board to zero cells in the bms menu.
 
So everything is running great! Got the BMS plugged in, coil charging works flawlessly and today I did a day trip with the wifey. Was cruising at about 15-20mph drawing maybe 10-15a and did 22 miles with 73% left on my 20ah pack! Then did a few 50mph runs on the "normal" setting 75a/150a. Normal is beast mode. I haven't really tried boost 150/350.

I set regen to be 100a for normal at it was too intense. Going like 45mph and using made me skid a little. So gonna turn it down. I set up a push button like Allex's bomber. Works great!!!!

Things to do:

-Seal up the battery pack so that wires aren't hanging out.
-cover bms in plexiglass box.
-wire key switch for display.
-shrink wrapping miscellaneous wires
-setup the Eaton charger
-mess around with all the extra settings on adaptto



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Nice work you gotta be happy.

Can you provide a link to where you got that charge plug with the flip cover it looks good i would like to get one for my bike
 
So how hot did you get your motor? I got my really hot doing trail rides today and hill climbs. Seems to get hotter than my 4065 I had but this definitely has more torque at the same power level.

Bike Looks perfect!

Tom
 
I changed my settings to the 10k temp probe and it read up to 180 today when I was doing full speed runs in traffic and on the trails.

What is a safe setting for max temp? 212F?
 
Sure 212f and you can boil a tea while your waiting for the hub to cool down. :D

I really like your build its my favorite so far for, hub-wheelbase- looks-battery-bms-fork-tires -special add ons..dont melt it! :lol:
 
moonshine said:
I changed my settings to the 10k temp probe and it read up to 180 today when I was doing full speed runs in traffic and on the trails.

What is a safe setting for max temp? 212F?

so i guesse you are running the later firmware, mine with rc7c only has the kty83/kty81 options..which seems to be giving pretty accurate readings.
 
ozman said:
Nice work you gotta be happy.

Can you provide a link to where you got that charge plug with the flip cover it looks good i would like to get one for my bike


They're connectors typically for high quality audio stuff. A company called Neutrik makes them. The connector i used were 4 pole connectors (4 slots for 10awg if soldered or >12awg if using the screws on the connectors). The part that plugs in is a NL4FX connector:

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Technology-NL4FX-Connector-Speak-On/dp/B002BERXW6

The port that it goes in is the NL4MP-ST (screw version not the solder tabs)

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NL4MP-ST-Speakon-Panel-Mount/dp/B00067JSFA/ref=pd_bxgy_267_img_y


I copied this from Allex's former bomber. They're freakin great! High quality, sturdy, and able to withstand up to 30a i believe (not sure though).
 
beast775 said:
Sure 212f and you can boil a tea while your waiting for the hub to cool down. :D

I really like your build its my favorite so far for, hub-wheelbase- looks-battery-bms-fork-tires -special add ons..dont melt it! :lol:


hahaha! when it was reading 180, I attempted to touch the cover, which proved to be a bad idea. Maybe i'll set it down lower....just to be safe.

Thanks for the kind words!!! I'll try not to wreck it...can't make any promises though...
 
Oh yea...I'm not sure if my bms is actually balancing. I check it while it's charging and it says "no" next to "bat balancing".

I can't change it or anything. I thought once the BMS is plugged in and enabled that it automatically starts balancing. I can see on the cell voltages. But I dont see any of those flashing red lights on the BMS. Anyone have this issue? Do I have to enable balancing?
 
You should see the lights on it flashing as it balances. I think there is a setting to turn it on in the setup somewhere , but not sure if I actually had to do that.

Love the build. Our setup is pretty similar , but I think I have a 5t as far as batteries,controller,motor go.
 
BMS needs to be enabled and the cell voltage has to be higher than the "balance voltage" setting in the BMS menu. Then it should start to balance.

Looks like your Max-E is mounted inside the enclosure.. What sort of MOSFET temperatures are you getting up to?
 
Moonshine thanks for the links much appreciated i found a place here in Australia that sells them
Btw this is where I'm at
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2 x Mxus 3000 under the bench
Maxe on the bench behind the bikes and another one in the mail on its way
Front wheels and tyres in the mail shipped from chain reaction on Friday
I'm getting poorer every day
Building two of these things is giving the bank balance a real pounding
 
just wait till you buy some fat batteries to fill those things! i rekn your ballence will hit an all time low :lol:
 
ohzee said:
You should see the lights on it flashing as it balances. I think there is a setting to turn it on in the setup somewhere , but not sure if I actually had to do that.

Love the build. Our setup is pretty similar , but I think I have a 5t as far as batteries,controller,motor go.

So i definitely said "yes" to "BMS enabled" but I can't find any other area to say "yes" to enabling balancing. Am I missing something?
 
Make sure the "Balancing" menu is set to less than your max charged voltage per cell. If you're set to charge all the way up to 4.2V/cell, set it to 4.15V/cell or so. It will balance when the cells are between 4.15V and 4.2V, whether you're charging or done charging.
 
dbaker said:
Where did your wife sit on the bike?

haha! when i had my raptor build that was 165mm wide she sat in the middle sideways with her legs perpendicular to the frame (not comfortable apparently even with a towel after 16 miles). This time she rented a beach cruiser and rode along side me while i towed all our picnic stuff and my 70lb goldendoodle in a bike trailer.
 
Sounds like the wife needs her own ebike , but I can see towing working pretty well.

Did you enable the channels on the bms ? You may have said if so sorry I missed it.

"Instructions for configuring the module are included with the Adaptto BMS"

I hate that line from the manual. Why not include those instructions so it is all in one place.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61183#p914204

That link is where you enable the channels. again it may have been done , but the only other thing I can think may be missing.
 
Great job! Bike looks great in matte black!
Did you take off grill from side covers? I think max-e will overheat only if you push it to the limit. And with right settings it will be just warm. It is always possible to mount 2 big 10cm fans on controller to keep it cool under heavy load and not having noise due to low fan rpm.
Too bad that I read this topic just now, I would tell you about dropout outer mounting option from the beginning.
What spring do you use for rear shock? I use 650lbs spring.
How much did you pay for battery? And what are the parameters?
 
moonshine said:
ozman said:
Nice work you gotta be happy.

Can you provide a link to where you got that charge plug with the flip cover it looks good i would like to get one for my bike


They're connectors typically for high quality audio stuff. A company called Neutrik makes them. The connector i used were 4 pole connectors (4 slots for 10awg if soldered or >12awg if using the screws on the connectors). The part that plugs in is a NL4FX connector:

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Technology-NL4FX-Connector-Speak-On/dp/B002BERXW6

The port that it goes in is the NL4MP-ST (screw version not the solder tabs)

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NL4MP-ST-Speakon-Panel-Mount/dp/B00067JSFA/ref=pd_bxgy_267_img_y


I copied this from Allex's former bomber. They're freakin great! High quality, sturdy, and able to withstand up to 30a i believe (not sure though).

Thanks again for the links mine arrived today.
They are pretty nice connectors
 
hah one 1/2 of mine showed up. Wish the same vendor sold both.

Still waiting on the 2nd half. I agree very high quality. Thanks for the links.
 
Stielz said:
BMS needs to be enabled and the cell voltage has to be higher than the "balance voltage" setting in the BMS menu. Then it should start to balance.

Looks like your Max-E is mounted inside the enclosure.. What sort of MOSFET temperatures are you getting up to?

So, i've read nothing above 100. But i'll pay more attention next time i ride
 
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