RIP. Greenville, Berry Creek, Big Creek, Paradise California

[marvin78]

If you move the question about pollutants dissipating I think you can do whatever you fancy ( I think you should preserve the cause and effect of messages at least ). Other then that, yeah it's hard to separate the issues, but I'm fine with only discussing solutions here other then fighting the root cause ( but I will reserve the right to point it out when brought into question, I mean it should work both ways ).

Sounds like you're calling the right wing AGW skeptics in for debate with posts like the above.

Okay, let's not talk solutions. Let's have another flame war about co2.
I can just move things to the AGW debate thread if you want. let me know what topic you prefer discussing.

So we're back to: building exteriors which can handle higher wind speeds for all buildings inside hurricane prone regions ( also on stilts to prevent flooding, and put the stilts on concrete foundations so they can't be washed away easily.. and keep scaling up that foundation size to deal with more storm erosion.. yeah getting expensive fast when implemented on every structure ).

 

[JackFlorey]

BTW if there's anyone out there wondering how to help victims of the LA Fires, here are a few organizations that I have found (and contributed to) in the past. They are all pretty highly ranked charities in that most of the money goes to the cause that you contribute to. All tax deductible too; I included the tax ID number you will need if you want to deduct your donations.

American Red Cross (TIN 06-1008595) - the Red Cross sets up food tents and provides temporary shelters and medical care to victims. You can donate money of course; they also accept blood donations.

California Community Foundation - Wildfire Recovery Fund (TIN 95-3510055) - this is a local California organization that organizes housing, does case management, and supplues mental health, and medical care for displaced people. It also sets up emergency communication and water systems in affected areas.

GlobalGiving: California Wildfire Relief Fund (TIN 30-0108263) - this is a global organization that has a separate Los Angeles fund that provides food, fuel, clean water, medicine, and shelter to residents. They also have a longer term program that will help low income residents rebuild and/or relocate after the fires are out.

California Fire Foundation (TIN 68-0118991) - this is a firefighter-centric aid organization that also does some aid in communites impacted by the fires. If you want aid concentrates on firefighters and other rescue personnel this is a good one.

 

[marvin78]

Doesn't matter where you are, the Red Cross is always a good choice.

 

[Stealth_Chopper]

"The Vistra battery storage facility in Moss Landing is on fire we’re live @ksbw"
"significant size 110,000 modules (?) "

Tell me . }] - smells like patchoolie? not [{

 

[neptronix]

Please elaborate

 

[99t4]

Getting back to our discussion of how can a (high humidity?) coastal area be so dry to feed a huge fire, here is an after photo of part of the Pacific Palisades burned area:

Burned almost right up to the beach!

BTW I can see at least two other serious geomorphological problems in this photo:

• Hillside slumping (see the spooned out areas just above the Pacific Coast Highway). These naturally occurring "landslides" are inexorably ongoing and really impossible to control no matter how grandiose or expensive the method (although there are probably some landscaping companies that will tell you they can stop it). Don't buy a house near the edge! (Or below it.)
• Sand "groins" (the perendicular jettys in the sand) placed in an effort to keep the sandy beach from washing away. These don't really work over time either.

Extremely difficult to overcome these highly flammable/highly erosive environmental conditions!

 

[marvin78]

Normally I watch Niel to get my space fetish tickled, but this is a good one to.

 

[marvin78]

Sand "groins" (the perendicular jettys in the sand) placed in an effort to keep the sandy beach from washing away. These don't really work over time either.

Owww nice a sea related issue... let's see what the Dutch did to solve it

Sand engine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The jetties in the picture are just wave breakers, doesn't actually prevent erosion just lessens it somewhat.