Ypedal
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http://www.neodymics.com/
Check this setup !!!! I like it !
( Cool videos at the bottom of the page.. don't miss those ! )
Check this setup !!!! I like it !
( Cool videos at the bottom of the page.. don't miss those ! )
Rural Roads with Roger - Neodymics !!
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TylerDurden
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Man, that is fug-lee.
The concept is fine, the packaging needs work. If they sexxy it up and charge more for it, it might sell.
Right now, it looks like a chunk of an old power wheelchair.
:?
The concept is fine, the packaging needs work. If they sexxy it up and charge more for it, it might sell.
Right now, it looks like a chunk of an old power wheelchair.
:?
Doctorbass
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Anyway... I like the dewalt idea 8)
Ypedal
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I think it's brilliant ! 
Takes 1 minute to install, or remove,
Makes front mounting a hub motor SAFE
Puts the motor into the proper rim size ie: 16" , for good power delivery
Adds suspension to a non-suspended bike ! !
Solves the battery mounting problems, and makes them down low where they should be.
Everything below the controller is just right where it should be, needs asthetics help on the top side !
Takes 1 minute to install, or remove,
Makes front mounting a hub motor SAFE
Puts the motor into the proper rim size ie: 16" , for good power delivery
Adds suspension to a non-suspended bike ! !
Solves the battery mounting problems, and makes them down low where they should be.
Everything below the controller is just right where it should be, needs asthetics help on the top side !
xyster
10 MW
Ypedal said:I think it's brilliant !
So brilliant, complex-looking, and ugly, it probably won't sell well...
knightmb
100 kW
TylerDurden said:Man, that is fug-lee.
The concept is fine, the packaging needs work. If they sexxy it up and charge more for it, it might sell.
Right now, it looks like a chunk of an old power wheelchair.
:?
That's my bike in the picture too, exact same model and year. Small world I guess
I thought my bike was funny-looking, but this is in a whole different category...still, I like it, if only for the fact that it shows some original thinking!
But boy, that's a lot of stuff to be hanging out front on the forks. I wonder, among other things, what the steering feels like.
The more different designs I see, the more encouraged I am about this whole e-bike business. I personally wouldn't want one of these, but suspect they'll work for some people, and I hope they sell a bunch of 'em.
But boy, that's a lot of stuff to be hanging out front on the forks. I wonder, among other things, what the steering feels like.
The more different designs I see, the more encouraged I am about this whole e-bike business. I personally wouldn't want one of these, but suspect they'll work for some people, and I hope they sell a bunch of 'em.
xyster
10 MW
This thumb throttle at the end of the boom leaves much room for improvement.
The four dewalt batteries plus one charger will cost about $600 extra, and require four battery swaps to recharge.
http://www.neodymics.com/range.htm
The entire assembly will also be a snap to steal.
The four dewalt batteries plus one charger will cost about $600 extra, and require four battery swaps to recharge.
http://www.neodymics.com/range.htm
The entire assembly will also be a snap to steal.
knightmb
100 kW
xyster said:
I hate to feel like I'm on the bash wagon since I want to encourage anyone and everyone to research into e-bikes, but since that's the exact same bike I use, I think that's just too much weight on the front and not a very practical design. The shocks are cool, but mine has shocks and they work just fine. I like to keep the weight balanced by putting motor up front and batteries in the back. That is a very front heavy bike I'm certain and I'm not sure how safe it would be since this is putting a lot more weight on those front forks. They barely hold with the motor in there, just not sure how the long time wear and tear would go on it.
I give them an A+ for being different though, can't say I've seen a setup like this before.
xyster
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I think of these criticisms as product improvement suggestions so the device and its maker has a better chance of success, and less ebike-experienced consumers have access to both the pros and the cons.
Parker
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My first reaction was that it's weird and ugly but after reading and watching it kind of won me over. I love the functionality. It is just a prototype. It can be prettyfied later. I do wonder about the handling though but this too might be tweaked .
It looks like something designed by a nuclear engineer... which just so happens that he is.
Glad he's seen the light & moved over to using a conventional hub motor compared to his previous semi-hub/outboard design, also quite the eyeful.
I can understand the purpose of the boom is to make the whole thing self contained, but the throttle & few electrical bits could simply be at the end of a cable harness with a quick release handle bar mount.
Shave off a few ounces anyway, or am I not seeing some other function of the boom?
Looks don't matter to me as long as it works well.
If the batts were separate, designed for quick mounting within the frame, a two-piece system would be almost as convenient.
The Bionix can be converted back to a normal bike in a matter of minutes, which seems to be the overriding priority with his designs.
Glad he's seen the light & moved over to using a conventional hub motor compared to his previous semi-hub/outboard design, also quite the eyeful.
I can understand the purpose of the boom is to make the whole thing self contained, but the throttle & few electrical bits could simply be at the end of a cable harness with a quick release handle bar mount.
Shave off a few ounces anyway, or am I not seeing some other function of the boom?
Looks don't matter to me as long as it works well.
If the batts were separate, designed for quick mounting within the frame, a two-piece system would be almost as convenient.
The Bionix can be converted back to a normal bike in a matter of minutes, which seems to be the overriding priority with his designs.
mvadventure
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Conceptually, IMHO, it's wonderful. Ugly is as ugly gets and this one gets a LOT of ugly but the overall design works.
The ability to plug in battery packs and charge them individually is a feature the ebike industry needs to grow. It's simplification personified.
Adding front fork suspension to a regular bike is a no no when using front hub motors but the design here allows it to the point of standard equipment. It reminds me, a little, of the Earls type front end on older BMW motorcycles.
The two biggest problems, again IMHO, are the fact this thing has to be expensive and it is truly ugly. Other than that I love it.
Good luck to the inventor.
Mike
The ability to plug in battery packs and charge them individually is a feature the ebike industry needs to grow. It's simplification personified.
Adding front fork suspension to a regular bike is a no no when using front hub motors but the design here allows it to the point of standard equipment. It reminds me, a little, of the Earls type front end on older BMW motorcycles.
The two biggest problems, again IMHO, are the fact this thing has to be expensive and it is truly ugly. Other than that I love it.
Good luck to the inventor.
Mike
xyster
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Take a look at the front rim brake and trace the cable back to what appears to be a hand lever on the left side of the device, partway down the stem....at first, that looked totally unworkable. But in the second view, I think we see that the lever on the device fits inside the bike's front calipers. Looks like front brake function would be lost on bikes with disk brakes.
Dunhill_BKK
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I for one would love to see that battery set up.
Battery units are the one area that look the most hap-hazard for some DIY e-bikes. Their battery units have a very nice mounting. It might be a bit open to the elements in the current state, but I'm not sure how those packs are rated for outdoor use.
You may not like the looks of it, but I think the design is relatively clean with regard to some aspects. It is all about function.
Battery units are the one area that look the most hap-hazard for some DIY e-bikes. Their battery units have a very nice mounting. It might be a bit open to the elements in the current state, but I'm not sure how those packs are rated for outdoor use.
You may not like the looks of it, but I think the design is relatively clean with regard to some aspects. It is all about function.
xyster
10 MW
Dunhill_BKK said:
I just don't think it will sell well looking like that. Also, not very stealth, but very easy to steal -- a bad combo.
Ypedal
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Also easy to disconect and take along with you ! *( could even serve as a powered shopping cart ! ) 8)
Dunhill_BKK
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I liked the materials he used, the placement of the weight and the tought that went into providing some suspension.
As with most engineers they aren't out to win a beauty contest and aren't really concerned about theft. They were answering a specific question, how can I provide an electric boost and keep use of my bike in a normal mode? I think they've done that rather elegantly.
I'd like to see them apply some of the same features to an electric bike.
As with most engineers they aren't out to win a beauty contest and aren't really concerned about theft. They were answering a specific question, how can I provide an electric boost and keep use of my bike in a normal mode? I think they've done that rather elegantly.
I'd like to see them apply some of the same features to an electric bike.
numberonekiwi
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looks like it even comes with one of those drainbrains in a blue case
Ypedal
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The blue meter looks like a " Watt's up "
