Self balancing

Yes it would be heavy for an ebike. What if you used the battery pack though? If the pack was a counterweight how much would it need to move in order to keep the bike stable? On an ebike part of the battery pack above the rear wheel or in my case the back under the scooter deck maybe. I did alot of searching and can't find anything other then like one million pages about stupid self balancing hoverboard crap.
 
silviasol said:
I thought I saw a video of a motorcycle some company made that will self balance so well that it will stay upright even if it is hit on the side by a car.
the LIT C1?
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=31916
 
Uh,, hit by a car, the last thing you want is self balancing. In fact, what you needed was to lay it down for your life before you got hit. How do you do that if the bike refuses to lay er down.
 
amberwolf said:
the LIT C1?
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=31916
Yes!
dogman dan said:
Uh,, hit by a car, the last thing you want is self balancing. In fact, what you needed was to lay it down for your life before you got hit. How do you do that if the bike refuses to lay er down.
Watch the video at 2:38. It still balances as it is hit.
Some kind of mechanism that will balance the wheels like a tight rope walker would do comes to mind. Only using two weights.
 
Ok, after digging, I finally figured out which vid I was supposed to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKvoAplbnxc&feature=player_embedded

So, ok, hit by a car not hard enough to even dent the door on the bike was survivable. Furthermore, the bike wasn't really even moving. I'm just not that impressed though, that was a bump. Have you hit a car with a motorcycle? I have, that was not the kind of hit by car I was thinking of.

However, able to balance that good at low speed, while stopped, etc. Hell yeah I want that. Easy to drop a bike if you are turning from paved to a gravel parking lot, hell yeah, the bike can't drop when the front wheel washes out on that gravel. VERY NICE!

But not to save me from that car. In the same situation as the car in the vid, I'd never have let that obviously not stopping car tag me. I'd have been greasing out that right turn first.

One and done for me on car contact. They tried hard to get me the other day, and I was long gone by the time the car screeched his brakes were I had been. I was two cars ahead going 60 mph splitting the lane when that car driver looked up from his text. The truck nearly hit the car that had been in front of me, but I was gone baby gone. Situational awareness is car safety.
 
By the car hitting the motor cycle I meant it was just a demonstration of how well it works. Yes it would be cool! How about come to a stop, stay balanced, then kick it in reverse :D Any idea's for this to get started! The balance weights would be simple, just add two lower voltage packs then a converter connected to your main pack so it is not a waste of weight on your bike. The motor part and circuitry would be some kind of weight sensing components....?
 
They are doing it with flywheels, which makes sense. Same resistance to tipping as when you are going 90 mph when you are stopped. Cool.
Not sure how that would affect low speed handling, like you want to lean to turn in a parking lot. Perhaps easy, but just weird compared to what you are used to.

My gas scoot is a bit that way, so much low weight it almost feels like it wants to pop up straight all the time, in low speed turns. That low weight makes it nice at 1 mph though, I rarely actually put a foot down on a stop sign where there is no traffic to wait on. Track standing that thing is easy.

Bit heavy for a bicycle I'd think, two heavy flywheels spinning. But something more like a velomobile or NEV,, oh yeah.
 
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