You are correct, thanks. I will put them.h0tr0d said:I don't see any bus capacitors, better put some...
Obrigado. Eu sou de Águeda/Aveiro. Cumprimentos.h0tr0d said:Fui eu que não os vi, ando cegueta, ou só não estão no esquema? Tema muito importante!
Boa sorte com o projecto e cumprimentos Lisboetas! :wink:
casainho said:- 6 PWM channels (2 for each phase) to drive mosfets --> drive each phase
-- 3 for measure a voltage related to current of each phase
Probably for synchronous rectification (much higher efficiency, much less heat).h0tr0d said:Why 6 pwm, since you only need 3?
Yup It will help save the diodes inside the fets among other things.Njay said:Probably for synchronous rectification (much higher efficiency, much less heat).h0tr0d said:Why 6 pwm, since you only need 3?
Arlo1 said:Yup It will help save the diodes inside the fets among other things.Njay said:Probably for synchronous rectification (much higher efficiency, much less heat).h0tr0d said:Why 6 pwm, since you only need 3?
Maybe the motor is injecting current into the big caps through the MOSFET diodes? Maybe your commutation sequence gets confused because of the current limiting caused by the power supply and it stops handling the re-circulation current properly? Who knows; but you have the device and the measuring tools . It may just be an "insufficient current issue" that you should disregard; try a power supply that can handle the load. Otherwise I would start by checking if the 21.5V are constant.casainho said:There is a problem seen after 00:50, about after 75% of throttle. The lab power supply starts to cut and can be seen that the power supply voltage increases from 20.8V to 21.5V as also a current increase. Does anyone have an idea why this happen?
The power supply should handle the load since this problem happens as seen on the video, no load. The power supply handles 10A.Njay said:Maybe the motor is injecting current into the big caps through the MOSFET diodes? Maybe your commutation sequence gets confused because of the current limiting caused by the power supply and it stops handling the re-circulation current properly? Who knows; but you have the device and the measuring tools . It may just be an "insufficient current issue" that you should disregard; try a power supply that can handle the load. Otherwise I would start by checking if the 21.5V are constant.casainho said:There is a problem seen after 00:50, about after 75% of throttle. The lab power supply starts to cut and can be seen that the power supply voltage increases from 20.8V to 21.5V as also a current increase. Does anyone have an idea why this happen?
I looked at power supply line and you are correct, the power supply line drops a lot on the PWM changes/ringing. I had changed the mosfets gate resistor from 10R to 100R and I got a better system but not good yet. I changed again to 470R and it is perfect BUT rise/fall times of PWM are now 1us!!! which seems bad...Njay said:Does it happen if you hold the throttle steady at those 75% where you see it? Even without load, when you speed up, the acceleration will raise current consumption until the speed "catches up" with the throttle. The faster you speed up the more current it will pull until the speed catches up.
And/or make sure you are really limiting the current.casainho said:Even with 470R gate resistors, I see power supply line drop a lot on acceleration... maybe I need to controller better the power/current ramp. Or maybe I need more/better capacitors...
If your power supply line drops a lot then your power supply is likely not enough voltage. You can try to add more caps but I have ran into issues with power supplies feeding my controller as well. I usually get it running a bit then switch to a battery for testing with a fuse or circuit breakercasainho said:I looked at power supply line and you are correct, the power supply line drops a lot on the PWM changes/ringing. I had changed the mosfets gate resistor from 10R to 100R and I got a better system but not good yet. I changed again to 470R and it is perfect BUT rise/fall times of PWM are now 1us!!! which seems bad...Njay said:Does it happen if you hold the throttle steady at those 75% where you see it? Even without load, when you speed up, the acceleration will raise current consumption until the speed "catches up" with the throttle. The faster you speed up the more current it will pull until the speed catches up.
Even with 470R gate resistors, I see power supply line drop a lot on acceleration... maybe I need to controller better the power/current ramp. Or maybe I need more/better capacitors...
Thank you NJay!
Thanks. What do you prefer, fuse or circuit braker? I would like to get your opinion/knowledgeArlo1 said:If your power supply line drops a lot then your power supply is likely not enough voltage. You can try to add more caps but I have ran into issues with power supplies feeding my controller as well. I usually get it running a bit then switch to a battery for testing with a fuse or circuit breaker