Stop Geoengineering Chemtrails

Punx0r said:
sansander.ebike said:
why do you ask?
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Because (to my limited understanding) a geiger counter is a common device and measures only ionising radiation. If you were using some other kind of detector it may have confused EM radiation from your microwave oven for ionising radiation. I am far from an expert, though.



I have to calm down....
I'm also not an expert
But you can measure the frequency Hz
Only 6Hz that is a frequency with our earth rotates.
the animals can hear this frequency.The human not.
in a tone of the earth, you have probably heard.....
 
I'm no expert either, but the earth does not rotate 6 cycles a second. its more on the order of once in 24 hours, give or take, at least on my part of it. Local conditions may vary? :roll:
 
I guess they must not be spraying the chemtrails over central Texas. When we do water quality sampling in our aquifer and streams, aluminum almost always comes back from the lab as "non-detect" so the levels are well below the 50 ppb detection limit. On the rare occasion that it is detected it is generally less than 1,000 ppb (micrograms per liter) and attributable to runoff from roadways.
 
The aliens vacuum up the aluminiums with their J.Edgar Hoovers.
 
I'd happily remove the underline. And the adjective punxor. I'm happy that's all anybody can even think to emphasize on in any technical disagreement :shock: .

Anyway, I'm not so sure of myself, and even touched on how we're all tied together as mass consciousness.
Until the 'people' say it's happening, it's technically not.

To some it may really look like it (me also), but I know all I can do is talk about, observe, and somehow give cadence towards truth thru attempted knowledge/wisdom/understanding. Whether that's a misplaced argument, or a well placed one.
I submit to truth, as it advances, progresses/is found, acheived, understood.

In the meantime I better understanding of my conscience, to identify and use what life is in me to change the things I can that are under my own control, and to put fear aside in looking at what some people on the outskirts are concerned with.

The trick is to understand you are nothing but a tiny fraction of consciousness in a deep sea. A part, important and special, but nothing above or beyond any other- That allows for a true impartialness imo.

Hehe, i wonder if readers have any idea what I'm trying to get at :D -I'm not even completely sure :lol:
 
this morning is a good day for Biking, befor the HAARP cloud cover will be closed.

The big HAARP Area in EU is Rostock Germany......
 
nutspecial said:
It'd be great if the people so sure of themselves could adequately explain . . . .
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Alright, I linked their site before, but not actual fun and adequate pages. It sure chews up and spits out that video.

http://contrailscience.com/why-do-some-planes-leave-long-trails-but-others-dont/

nutspecial said:
These aren't even big trails that will visably last a really long time.
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Um, the original argument is that video was the NORM, that some others are different and those OTHERS were the proof of chemtrails. Now you want to say that those considered NORMAL prior to now are now chemtrails. (??)

Oh, goodie, another fun and adequate explanation from the people so sure of themselves.

http://contrailscience.com/how-far-away-is-that-contrail/
 
Okay, there's the reality we see with our own eyes, then there's the story that people put forward in the videos.

Just to make a comparison: There's the movie 'Karate Kid' we see with our own eyes, then there's the chemtrail style explanation. If THAT doesn't get the point across. . .Well, I guess we know from experience it won't. . . .

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I meant the on/off trials in that particular vid weren't even the highly visable persistant ones dauntless. Nevertheless they were on/off, contrary to what a jet condensation trail should do in those cirumstances (-sic- imo) -and there's plenty more firsthand accounts where that came from. Around here, you can often times lookup and see the same thing. The vid was nice because it was zoomed, and well, on video.

Anyway, thanks, I'll check out the contrailscience link. Maybe it can change my mind and make me believe 'spraying' doesn't happen, and that I can trust the media, government, it's military black budgets, and those wonderful multinational corps.
 
As I originally stated, it's the most 'open minded' that are the most resistant when provided volumes of proof and experimental evidence. The vast amount of photos/footage you yourself have linked to is proof of a natural phenomenon.

Logically, why on earth would a massive clandestine operation taking place all over the world draw attention to their activities by turning off and on their illicit chemical spraying? A far simpler answer is detailed here: http://contrailscience.com/why-do-some-planes-leave-long-trails-but-others-dont/

They are clouds, the planes are changing altitudes and moving through bands of varied moisture. You cannot determine a planes altitude from the ground. Some leave trails some don't - this is because they're at differing altitudes.

If you put even 50% of the effort you expend reading bullshit you would rapidly hone in on actual truth. If your only source of material are people with mental illnesses then you're probably going to be stuck in a 'circle jerk' of reinforcement.

As for that other video full of 'evidence' from a real life pilot spraying chems... I refer you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_schizophrenia

Un-diagnosed mental illness is a real problem and one that unfortunately gets less press than chemtrails :/
 
I guess you hope the condescension somehow helps your reasoning?

As for my remark, albeit somewhat sarcastic, I stand behind it.

Maybe it can change my mind and make me believe 'spraying' doesn't happen, and that I can trust the media, government, it's military black budgets, and those wonderful multinational corps.
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As for the links I've provided, these people are as rational as a heart attack.
You don't get it, whatever's right, I don't bash other people, because humankind has such a far way to go towards absolute truth, and I am just a tiny fraction of the pool.

But it's true, from my personal experience, most 'normal' people never allow themselves to openly question so much of status quo, because they are holding too tightly to their misplaced self importance and simply can't look past the inward defenses they've built up to protect them from their fears and conscience.

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Seriously the majority of responders in this thread think these are mostly natural water vapor, and jet engines have always done this huh?
I guess these folks never looked into it objectively, and don't look up very much.
 
nutspecial said:
I guess you hope the condescension somehow helps your reasoning?
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Absolutely not, it's just a natural reaction to the complete futility of arguing with you. For example you exclusively focused on the perceived tone of my response and didn't mention any of the evidence.

Seriously the majority of responders in this thread think these are mostly natural water vapor, and jet engines have always done this huh?
I guess these folks never looked into it objectively, and don't look up very much.
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That is absolutely correct. The burden of proof here is on you. The over whelming majority of the educated world is in complete agreement. If you can explain what you believe to be true with a body of rational evidence then I and many others would happily engage without the shitty attitude.

If you do open yourself up and actually work through evidence with a slightly bigger fraction of the pool involved then there's always the risk that you may find yourself incorrect - can you handle that given that this theory and many others like it appears to be a big part of the way you defined the world?
 
I doubt it. In the face of any contradictory evidence the conspiracy theory simply grows to explain it away.

Nutspecial, you would be an excellent troll if you weren't serious ;)
 
Punx0r said:
Nutspecial, you would be an excellent troll if you weren't serious ;)
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I fail to see a correlation between excellence and the lack of seriousness in trolling. I'll bet the troll hall of fame has clusters of those who did so in deadly earnest.

nutspecial said:
A 'good' troll huh? :D Yeah, that's what I thought
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Yeah, figured you did think that. You know, that thought might be pretty well unanimous around here where you're concerned.
 
ach what, is a donwload from Google.....
that's all speculation
:D :D :D

I have so many Pictures
the server of this forum would Crash....

let images upload
 
Yep, contrails exist. They are real. They are composed of chemicals-- mostly nitrogen, oxygen, argon, and water vapor.

People should be far more concerned about the "chemtrails" being spewed directly in their faces by lower-flying machines. The petro-fueled machines on our streets are directly associated with both life-threatening illnesses and government mind control schemes.
 
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