[USA] Will Tariffs come about and lead to higher priced ebike parts

Now I'm still buying plenty of business things I need to operate but no major investments.

Ok, i get you better.
I think the best time to get a deal is times like these. I save during the hot times so i can buy stuff cheap when everything is down. Computer equipment is definitely down in price, so i'm finally investing in a decent amount after waiting 5 years.

The vultures win in economies like these ;)
 
Ok, i get you better.

I think the best time to get a deal is times like these. I save during the hot times so i can buy stuff cheap when everything is down. Computer equipment is definitely down in price, so i'm finally investing in a decent amount.

Vulture strategy wins in this scenario, lol.
Yeah I would do the same, but for what I'm looking for I don't think we are there yet. Even a mild recession though could see prices fall as people cut back, similarly China is hurting and it seems the only strategy they are willing to play is the same one they always do, keep dumping money in to keep people employed (not disgruntled with the government) and making things. They are not going to stop making things super cheap from government support until the wheels fall off and they are getting looser every day. Other markets will absorb some things we stop buying due to tariffs but they are not happy about it either. I wish China would change and start supporting their people, I don't think hurting them was worth it, let alone the harm we caused to ourselves with all of our allies. I disagree with all of it but I'm more mad about the tariffs against allies even though the China ones hurt me directly more. I even think, some directed and controlled tariffs against selected things when combined with other strategies could work but holy shit is this not that.
 
I wish things would change but i keep very low expectations for my government due to their long history of incompetency over the last 60+ years.

I view government like weather, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's sour grapes. I can scream at the sky but.. it's better to put that energy into adapting to the current government weather, you know.

Hope the storm blows through quick though, Covid era was bad enough, it's not nice to have a second serving of that economic interruption.
 
Covid era was bad enough, it's not nice to have a second serving of that economic interruption.
Not only economic interruption, but supply chain interruption. I ride past a major Pacific Coast port fairly often. It's been a ghost town for several weeks, not a good sign.
 
Vulture strategy wins in this scenario, lol.

Not to convince anyone, rather just to share my own strategy. Ignore as you like.

"Stable" tends towards "not changing", "unstable" towards much change. A healthy system is somewhat of a "middle way" - change, but not wild change. It seems to me that we are entering a time of wild change, and while we can take better actions to ride it, it won't be controlled or avoided.

I can't predict all the details, but I don't expect resolution soon. For myself, I am presuming Depression. Major. I am presuming that my ability to acquire bike parts from overseas will stop and not start again soon - possibly for the rest of my life (I've reached retirement age).

In light of this, regarding my e-bike strategy, I focused on building for the rest of my life, not on short-term entertainment. My design is intended to be usable after trade largely stops. It may not happen, but that is my design goal.

The practical aspect of this is that I have been pushing to acquire what I think I might need and spares. I paused for my own finances to catch up as I went, but I did not try to predict or "game" the system - I haven't trusted that I have the option. Instead I have moved to get what I thought I would need as I could. I am stockpiling design-critical parts, and parts I can't get from junked bikes.

I'm am considering another "buy" from overseas (the USA to me) before commerce, distribution, and shipping is disrupted. As the Depression gets underway, my options to get what I want will stop. Most of what I'm thinking of buying now will be some more spares in my "camping" gear (living gear actually, as I always want to be able to sleep warm, and Wiggy's has the best kit for that). I may fill in a few holes in my e-bike spares, and after moving across Australia I'm about ready to restart development - the trike works well, but I may play with the gearing, and I want to develop the use of the battery, charging circuits, and solar panels as an auxiliary power source.

This does not read as addressing the question of "tariffs and higher prices". My own point is that this isn't actually what is happening - Trump and his tariffs are a symptom of a larger change, and you can hypnotise yourself and miss out on a better approach to preparing for your future. As the fellow said, that's where you'll be spending the rest of your life :cool:.

30 years ago, I did not predict Trump specifically, but I did predict much of what has happened in the USA, and that is why I began working to migrate from the USA then. I consider myself well-vindicated now, just watching the news over the last 20 years.

And you may not see this as I do. I'm comfortable with my evaluation, and I've pointed it out. I see a much larger issue ripening, and I am making my choices differently in light of this - don't think the tariffs are the primary issue to consider.
 
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I can't predict all the details, but I don't expect resolution soon. For myself, I am presuming Depression. Major.
I've been thinking the same thing. Thus I'm pushing to get the house solar system 100% off grid ready (replacing inverters) and getting a stockpile of emergency food in case the depression includes food supply chain disruptions. It's unlikely, but IMO the odds are greater than 10% of a massive supply chain failure in the US brought about by financial collapse. We are very fortunate in that we have a supply of water (non potable but it can be filtered) half a mile from us.
 
Is there any less extreme option between 'i dont have to care about anything' and 'apocalypse is coming, hunger, darkness and violence'?
I dont think America would collapse into total chaos just because they have made one wrong choice (however, stubbornly making the same mistake again is a bit concerning).
I mean, make better voting decisions next time instead of stockpiling canned food or digging shelters :) I have this strange feeling that the same people that scream 'apocalypse' and hoard guns for it, they're the ones responsible for current situation at the helm.
 
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Pretty amusing how US tariffs on imports from China went up ~100-200% and the de minimis exception was removed, now they are up "only" 30% and the de minimis exception is still removed, and everyone is like, "OMG, it's so low, I have to buy!"

It feels like just increasing them to 30% and removing the de minimis exception wouldn't have been received this way.
 
Is there any less extreme option between 'i dont have to care about anything' and 'apocalypse is coming, hunger, darkness and violence'?
I dont think America would collapse into total chaos just because they have made one wrong choice (however, stubbornly making the same mistake again is a bit concerning).
I mean, make better voting decisions next time instead of stockpiling canned food or digging shelters :) I have this strange feeling that the same people that scream 'apocalypse' and hoard guns for it, they're the ones responsible for current situation at the helm.
People are gullible. They believed the lies!
 
Is there any less extreme option between 'i dont have to care about anything' and 'apocalypse is coming, hunger, darkness and violence'?
I dont think America would collapse into total chaos just because they have made one wrong choice (however, stubbornly making the same mistake again is a bit concerning).

The pragmatic option is to wait out the bad ideas and adjust accordingly.
'Wait out the bad ideas' is a time tested strategy only because we have term limits.
Only If a president is violating term limits do we have a serious problem when a citizen needs to think about plan C, plan D, plan E, let's say.

I mean, make better voting decisions next time instead of stockpiling canned food or digging shelters :)

You're falsely assuming that our election system is democratic in nature.. 😅
 
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Not only economic interruption, but supply chain interruption. I ride past a major Pacific Coast port fairly often. It's been a ghost town for several weeks, not a good sign.

Mega yikes!
 
Is there any less extreme option between 'i dont have to care about anything' and 'apocalypse is coming, hunger, darkness and violence'?
I dont think America would collapse into total chaos just because they have made one wrong choice (however, stubbornly making the same mistake again is a bit concerning).
I mean, make better voting decisions next time instead of stockpiling canned food or digging shelters :) I have this strange feeling that the same people that scream 'apocalypse' and hoard guns for it, they're the ones responsible for current situation at the helm.

Yes, of course. There isn't some economy that runs on physics that we just decided to start exploiting ("Say! Look at that!"). It's just us, all the way. We're doing it.

Now, convince everyone else (or at least the majority) to stop pretending, and get on with being a society. Let us know.

Like the fellow said in the song "When we want hell, then hell is what we'll have".
 
Well, there is a positive benefit-- much safer and pleasant riding for me, not being pushed around and challenged by the normally incessant abusive semi truck traffic (container shuttling) in that area.

Hey, enjoy it!
 
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