kudos
10 kW
That's interesting, I love the look of the raptor with those tires:
Kudos
Kudos
When will the Fat bike fad die?
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SprocketLocket
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I think he was referring to the Vee Mission tires. They are probably Vee's cheapest fatbike tires, and their most notorious self-steerers, and included on most (non-Mongoose) entry-level fatbikes, so, very common. Hopefully will be discontinued. The Missions and Mongoose tires in their own right have probably done more to lower the credibility of fatbike steering performance than aything else.
The next step up, Vee8's, which have a less-agressive, closer-spaced rectangular tread, are reported as "okay" but "not great". Oddly, one of the cheapest fat tires, the Floater by On One, is reported to basically not have any self-steer, and make a fatbike ride like a regular bike, even despite its aggressive tread. The Floater is available in multiple colors for no extra charge, amazingly. It is made for On One by a major rubber corporation, possibly Intex. Unfortunately, On One appears to have made a very stupid move in not stocking its USA warehouse with them anymore, forcing people to pay an absurd $86 shipping fee to ship from UK. An email to On One's "USA-based support" was worthless. The guy in Portland would not give me a reason why they were not available from the US warehouse anymore, and stopped replying to me when I simply wanted to know if they would ever be back in stock here. And forget any acknowledgement of asking any possibility of getting free shipping from UK, as some people previously said they had (I guess as they were running out of US stock).
I have seen American support go way down in quality (I mentioned bikesdirect.com previously, and I'm talking pre-sales there too, for obvious reasons). What's the point of having USA-based support, when a person in the Phillippines can easily do twice as good of a job, for half the cost. Working in support myself, never inflicting the terrible support I'm lamenting, but rather the value-added kind we're supposed to be known for, it's very worrying, as I'm very against offshoring, but with how I've been treated by some American support agents lately, in specialty/niche markets no less, I almost want to outsource these guys myself. Ultimately, this is management's fault, but part of the quality of service you impart, you do bring to the game in your own character, regardless of whether management is looking over your shoulder.
The next step up, Vee8's, which have a less-agressive, closer-spaced rectangular tread, are reported as "okay" but "not great". Oddly, one of the cheapest fat tires, the Floater by On One, is reported to basically not have any self-steer, and make a fatbike ride like a regular bike, even despite its aggressive tread. The Floater is available in multiple colors for no extra charge, amazingly. It is made for On One by a major rubber corporation, possibly Intex. Unfortunately, On One appears to have made a very stupid move in not stocking its USA warehouse with them anymore, forcing people to pay an absurd $86 shipping fee to ship from UK. An email to On One's "USA-based support" was worthless. The guy in Portland would not give me a reason why they were not available from the US warehouse anymore, and stopped replying to me when I simply wanted to know if they would ever be back in stock here. And forget any acknowledgement of asking any possibility of getting free shipping from UK, as some people previously said they had (I guess as they were running out of US stock).
I have seen American support go way down in quality (I mentioned bikesdirect.com previously, and I'm talking pre-sales there too, for obvious reasons). What's the point of having USA-based support, when a person in the Phillippines can easily do twice as good of a job, for half the cost. Working in support myself, never inflicting the terrible support I'm lamenting, but rather the value-added kind we're supposed to be known for, it's very worrying, as I'm very against offshoring, but with how I've been treated by some American support agents lately, in specialty/niche markets no less, I almost want to outsource these guys myself. Ultimately, this is management's fault, but part of the quality of service you impart, you do bring to the game in your own character, regardless of whether management is looking over your shoulder.
pxpaulx
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SprocketLocket said:
i had the vee8s and they arent far off the missions, pretty bad self steer unless they are over inflated....for a fat tire. replaced them with a set of husker dus and it was night and day! i am planning to build it out with the new long axle rear motor from em3ev pretty soon.
Drunkskunk
100 GW
I had the Vee Mission. When mounted correctly, it got excellent traction, but had abysmal breaking and hill descending performance, and would self steer. So I mounted it backwards. The self steer problem disappeared, and the breaking performance greatly improved, but the traction went down to the level of most other fat tires.
Its a very directional tread. if you have them and think they suck, try mounting them backwards. They will suck much less.
I got rid of mine, though. Sucking much less was still sucking.
Its a very directional tread. if you have them and think they suck, try mounting them backwards. They will suck much less.
I got rid of mine, though. Sucking much less was still sucking.
LockH
1 PW
I just got back from Day Two (three day show but skipped the 2nd) of the annual Toronto spring Bike Show. "Fat" bikes MUCH in evidence among numerious exhibitors selling the antique pedal-only Poop-Mobile bikes. 
Chalo
100 TW
You mean the kind that always work, even after 100+ miles at a stretch? Even in the rain, extreme cold, extreme heat? The kind that can go into a climate-uncontrolled storage container for a few years and emerge ready to ride after airing up the tires?
LockH
1 PW
Chalo said:
Hehe... As they say, time will tell. (Though seems kinda extreme for any vehicle.)
rtz
1 mW
http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/huffy-adults-excess-26-7-speed-fat-tire-bicycle/pid-1254364?color=Grey&N=40964111+4294725576
http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/mongoose-men-s-dolomite-26-7-speed-fat-tire-bicycle/pid-1038954?color=Blue&N=855520899
They seem to get good reviews. Maybe because they are new and still a bit of a novelty at this point?
