E-S Phasor Electric Bike Owners

[Rodney64]

Currently balancing my pack after a Sunday morning ride

One of the 1s packs was at 4.12


It's currently at 4.16 after 12 minutes charging

23 minutes later and the packs fully balanced. I've borrowed this charger from Jonescg and its fast.

Video currently uploading of some off road riding.

 

[pendragon8000]

Nice one Rod. Looking forward to the video.

What's that plug pack going to the handle bar? If you're charging a light battery you could consider putting the plug pack in the frame if its a switch mode type power supply and connect the 240v pins to your main battery pack.

 

[Rodney64]

Nice one Rod. Looking forward to the video.

What's that plug pack going to the handle bar? If you're charging a light battery you could consider putting the plug pack in the frame if its a switch mode type power supply and connect the 240v pins to your main battery pack.

That's would be the bulk charge andersons. The one with green tape would be for the rear light.

[youtube]KvTSaNKpi0U[/youtube]

 

[Rix]

Rod, great vid, cant get over how cool your Phasor looks with the 17 inch knobby on the rear. Just looks tough.

Rick

 

[korpin]

I thought I saw on another thread Hyena purchased a crown motor not sure if he put on phasor how is that working out?

 

[korpin]

WAY back I saw photo of HD killers phasor with cromotor and single speed....was wondering how he accomplished this with no chain tensioner or guide?...thinking chain tension must change an awful lot with compression of swingarm and how does he remove wheel for service????

 

[pendragon8000]

I thought I saw on another thread Hyena purchased a crown motor not sure if he put on phasor how is that working out?

I was hoping to see what he was doing with a crown, but apparently he has bigger plans.
Rod, I was referring to the plug pack in the power board. I'll watch vid asap.

 

[Rix]

WAY back I saw photo of HD killers phasor with cromotor and single speed....was wondering how he accomplished this with no chain tensioner or guide?...thinking chain tension must change an awful lot with compression of swingarm and how does he remove wheel for service????

HD Killer is running a chain tensioner. I cant fully see it in his pic but my guess is a surly singulator, maybe the Melvin. if it was a standard derailleur with the cable removed and the set screws holding the alignment in place, I think it would stick out far enough and would be visible. I know from a recent post that HD Killer follow the thread, maybe he will clarify for us .

Rick

 

[HD-Killer]

WAY back I saw photo of HD killers phasor with cromotor and single speed....was wondering how he accomplished this with no chain tensioner or guide?...thinking chain tension must change an awful lot with compression of swingarm and how does he remove wheel for service????

HD Killer is running a chain tensioner. I cant fully see it in his pic but my guess is a surly singulator, maybe the Melvin. if it was a standard derailleur with the cable removed and the set screws holding the alignment in place, I think it would stick out far enough and would be visible. I know from a recent post that HD Killer follow the thread, maybe he will clarify for us .

Rick

I am using a 12 tooth fixed gear on the rear with a single speed tensioner I found on eBay for $20. I have a custom FSA Patterson 2-speed transmission up front with a 38t chainring. This gives me a 61t chainring in high and 38t in low(never use low). The nice thing about the 2-speed transmission is that it has a built-in freewheel allowing me to run a fixed gear on the rear. The smallest single speed freewheel they make is a 16t but by using a fixed gear you can run a much smaller gear. This allows me to pedal at 45+mph.

 

[korpin]

have not tried it yet will let you know......but one thing i leaned make sure to get cone WITH NO SLOT if using on phasor frame

 

[AussieJester]

Rodney, I think I saw you riding your Phraser on Sunday? Along Beachboro rd next to Whiteman Park, I was going to the archery complex for a Dreamfit Foundation event...if out want you there's someone else in Perth with a blue phraser
Frame!

KiM

edit: just watched your video, obviously it was you!! I see you went to the flying field, it's next to the Archery complex! I saw a few of the rc jets flying overhead head, when I was racing about on a go cart on the grass reserve lol

 

[Rodney64]

It was me Kim. I was getting a lot of interest on Sunday. Hopefully by riding slowly things will be ok.


Picking up my 24 inch wheel today so will post some photos tonight.

 

[Rix]

HD Killer, thanks for clarifying. I was hoping you would tell us. I have been puting component lists together for several up and coming Phasor builders. I am standardizing components but there are a couple of things I can't answer because the Phasor is a custom frame and not everything bolts up perfectly. Caliper adapters for the rear brakes and most crank bottom brackets just to name a few. Thanks again for clarifying.

Rick

 

[Rodney64]

Just fitted a 24" OdysseyMTB front rim (20.5 by motorcycle standards) and 24" front tire (Felt Bermaster) with a Sun Ringle hub. Thanks Rick.

 

[Rix]

Wow Rod, your bike looks even better than I imagined with the 24MTB front and the 17MC rear. That tire combo on your Phasor looks better than the same set up on my Bomber. SWEET!!! Pedal/ground clearance looks to be good as well. That was a concern I had but apparently not an issue. That is one tough set up now. I will bet if you look at the difference in weight with this set up VS the old 26MTB set up, probably not much more than 3 pounds heavier and way way way stronger than before. So, did you notice a slight increase in acceleration capabilities due to the mechanical advantage of the rear wheel? Your bike will handle better down hill now and straight line stability is also in enhanced, but how is the steering? It should feel slightly less twitchy at speed and should feel a little slower handling wise around or less than 15KPH. If it does feel too slow for your taste (I don't think it will though), decrease your rider static sag by turning the spanner nut on the shock clockwise a couple of revolutions around the shock. BTW, if you are running the tube I sent you in that front wheel, that is a Motorcycle tube 80/100-21. This size tubes work better in big 24x3.00" MTB tires than the 24"MTB tubes. 24X3.00 MTB tubes are hard to come by and are more expensive. A regular motorcycle tube is the same as a heavy duty bicycle tube. If you were to go to a heavy duty motorcycle tube on the front, it would add another easy .5kg to the weight of the front wheel because those tubes are heavy.

Rick

 

[Rodney64]

Wow Rod, your bike looks even better than I imagined with the 24MTB front and the 17MC rear.

Yes I was supprised too. The smaller wheels havent distracted from the look but made it better

That tire combo on your Phasor looks better than the same set up on my Bomber.

It still looks good though Rick,

SWEET!!! Pedal/ground clearance looks to be good as well.

I started with 400mms clearance so there was always going to be plenty of clearance.

That was a concern I had but apparently not an issue. That is one tough set up now. I will bet if you look at the difference in weight with this set up VS the old 26MTB set up, probably not much more than 3 pounds heavier and way way way stronger than before. So, did you notice a slight increase in acceleration capabilities due to the mechanical advantage of the rear wheel?

Yes theres quite alot more acceleration considering that the controllers only putting out 30 amps and the crystalyes one that I had in was 45, hope to try the crystalyte controller on the weekend. Does anyone in Perth have a laptop that can reprogram my Lyens controller. If you do will you reprogram my controller

Your bike will handle better down hill now and straight line stability is also in enhanced, but how is the steering?

Stearings good no issues but Ryans bike with the 180mm for was too twitchy for me.

It should feel slightly less twitchy at speed and should feel a little slower handling wise around or less than 15KPH. If it does feel too slow for your taste (I don't think it will though), decrease your rider static sag by turning the spanner nut on the shock clockwise a couple of revolutions around the shock. BTW, if you are running the tube I sent you in that front wheel, that is a Motorcycle tube 80/100-21. This size tubes work better in big 24x3.00" MTB tires than the 24"MTB tubes. 24X3.00 MTB tubes are hard to come by and are more expensive. A regular motorcycle tube is the same as a heavy duty bicycle tube. If you were to go to a heavy duty motorcycle tube on the front, it would add another easy .5kg to the weight of the front wheel because those tubes are heavy.

Yes im running the tube that you sent me. Ill have to remember this, 80-100-21. Will try and have a good ride tonight as it was dark last night when I finished fitting the wheel.

Rick

 

[Rodney64]

Picked up a couple of tyres from the Honda shop today




They're 2.75/17 47R.
6ply rating and max speed 106 mph/170kmh.

Vee Rubber. vRM 022-05


The tyres weigh 2.4 kilos.

Ryans Phasor needs a heavy tyre in the front as it will be producing more that 10 kilowatt unless governed.

I'm looking forward to the ride. Might need to swap.

 

[Rix]

10kw with the 17s! Can you say power wheelies? Ryan will never come home, except to recharge the batts. Cant wait to hear about the ride report on Ryanthelions build. YAH!!!! 100 volts 100 plus amps? Vee Rubber tires look like a great dual purpose print. Let me know how you like them. Still really impressed with the Shinko SR241 3.00-17 tire. Can call it the perfect tire just yet. It works awesome on pavement, and dirt, but I don't know how long it will last yet. If I get 1500 miles or more out of it, then it will be rated the perferct tire by me.

Rick

 

[Bill Nye the science guy]

looks great with the smaller front wheel. Oz looks like a fun place.

 

[Rodney64]

looks great with the smaller front wheel.

Yes I'm very happy with the result Bill.

 

[Rix]

Oh man, things are about to get twisted judging by the pics. Cant wait to see Ryan's build.
Rick

 

[jonescg]

Hey Rodney,

I decided we can use 7 mm bullets to connect each 6s section. There are going to be two cables to join the two half-packs, and the main power leads will leave the top of the pack using these bullet power connectors:



The main terminals are at the top.


It's a shitload of copper for the job, so you shouldn't have any cell heating issues. I'm going through all of the cells looking for duds today, hope to be able to start soldering tomorrow. I have a stack of perspex we can make some battery cases with too.

Cheers,
Chris

 

[Rodney64]

Looking good Chris, it's going to b a nice compact pack.

 

[Rodney64]

Nice ride today, tomorrow were going to the goat farm mountain bike park so will post some vid tomorrow. [youtube]HAhRbPAc3W4[/youtube]

 

[korpin]

well you guys are really coming up with a lot of great ideas especially in the tire/wheel dept I started reading from page one going thru all the posts my thoughts on the schlumph:

Took it out one ride shifts smooth can shift going uphill nice epecially with easy shift levers!

with 30/75 up front and 10 in rear can hit 48-50 mph using 30 amps!

with the 1:2.5 ratio,do not think you really need more than one rear speed UNLESS you lose power and have a big hill to climb

so far,I dig it!!!