Full Face Helmet
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andys
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Feeling a little better this morning. I am lucky I didn't do more damage than I did. If I had hit the ground at a slightly different angle, I could have been spitting a bunch of teeth out and perhaps even broken my jaw, or done more than just muscle strain damage to my neck. The worst damage was a nasty gouge on my leg that needed stitches, and a sore neck from the force of the impact of my helmet on the street. the one chipped tooth seems to still be sound and I hope they can piece in one of those new tooth colored ceramic fillings today.
I was on the maiden run on my newly built stealthy e-bike with BMC geared hub and compact LIPO battery and was pretty excited. I was glancing down at the speedo to see what it could do up this one slight grade, and I guess i didn't notice a big truck that was parked was sticking out pretty far into the street. I must have caught it with about 5 inches of the handlebars at full speed without any idea it was about to happen. It was the most violent collision I'd ever experienced, and I was only going about 18MPH. That Trek 950 is such a tank, It hardly even got damaged. few scratches on the pedal and handlebar end, and I broke the thumb throttle. The frame, front wheel, crank, handle bars, etc seem fine. Just need to replace the throttle and loosen the headset to straighten the front end. I wish my body was as easy to fix as the bike.
I am going to try and find a light weight foam style helmet with at least an unobtrusive chin guard. There is no way you can wear a full motorcycle helmet on a bicycle, even a relatively low speed e-bike. Its more dangerous to me because I can't see as well, and they are not designed for bicycles from a weight and ventilation stand point.
I was on the maiden run on my newly built stealthy e-bike with BMC geared hub and compact LIPO battery and was pretty excited. I was glancing down at the speedo to see what it could do up this one slight grade, and I guess i didn't notice a big truck that was parked was sticking out pretty far into the street. I must have caught it with about 5 inches of the handlebars at full speed without any idea it was about to happen. It was the most violent collision I'd ever experienced, and I was only going about 18MPH. That Trek 950 is such a tank, It hardly even got damaged. few scratches on the pedal and handlebar end, and I broke the thumb throttle. The frame, front wheel, crank, handle bars, etc seem fine. Just need to replace the throttle and loosen the headset to straighten the front end. I wish my body was as easy to fix as the bike.
I am going to try and find a light weight foam style helmet with at least an unobtrusive chin guard. There is no way you can wear a full motorcycle helmet on a bicycle, even a relatively low speed e-bike. Its more dangerous to me because I can't see as well, and they are not designed for bicycles from a weight and ventilation stand point.
mmmmm, i think i will get one after all.
Sorry to hear about your accident andy, its one of those where you didnt see it coming and then whack! had one of those on my motorbike and didn't even have time to grab the brake leaver before snapping the bars on impact, your accident reminded me of that crash as my lid took a real bash on the back but i suffered no head injuries at all, i dread to think what would have happened without a helmet as i was only doing 30 or so and the worrying thing is my kona can do 30 too.
thanks for posting, the idea to buy one is back in the fore again.
Cheers
D
Sorry to hear about your accident andy, its one of those where you didnt see it coming and then whack! had one of those on my motorbike and didn't even have time to grab the brake leaver before snapping the bars on impact, your accident reminded me of that crash as my lid took a real bash on the back but i suffered no head injuries at all, i dread to think what would have happened without a helmet as i was only doing 30 or so and the worrying thing is my kona can do 30 too.
thanks for posting, the idea to buy one is back in the fore again.
Cheers
D
DCB-BLDC
10 mW
direct quote from nhtsa website
see this link for more information http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/pedbimot/motorcycle/unsafehelmetid/pages/page2.htm
dogman dan
1 PW
Couldn't agree more. Even though state law legal, you won't see me riding in the half shell, "harley cap" helmets that came with my scooter. Full face with a shield for me, thankyou. I've "used" enough motorcycle hemets to appreciate a good one.
On the ebike, I am comfy with a bike helmet. I ride it legal speed, 25 mph in my state. To go fast I ride the scooter. Most of my route is very safe, car wise.
On the ebike, I am comfy with a bike helmet. I ride it legal speed, 25 mph in my state. To go fast I ride the scooter. Most of my route is very safe, car wise.
You know, a downhill mountain bike helmet is probably safer than those 'novelty' helmets.
Yeah, for a full-speed motorcycle helmet, only a DOT and SNELL approved helmet for me thanks. Arai, Shoei, Shark, Suomy, Scorpion, Icon, or something similar, even an HJC, but no other brands...maybe not HJC, nothing against the company, but they never fit well. Even a Bell helmet is better than any of the novelty knock-offs that are out there.
Yeah, for a full-speed motorcycle helmet, only a DOT and SNELL approved helmet for me thanks. Arai, Shoei, Shark, Suomy, Scorpion, Icon, or something similar, even an HJC, but no other brands...maybe not HJC, nothing against the company, but they never fit well. Even a Bell helmet is better than any of the novelty knock-offs that are out there.
how hot would it get inside the helmet during the summer? Too hot to wear it?
http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Powersports-Zephyr-Full-Face-Motorcycle/dp/B000HX7DD2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/184-1236483-7166615
Foolish me has been going without a helmet all this time. I read about someone dying on an electric bike so this week, I'm going to make sure I buy one.
I also like this style of helmet. I think ypedal turned me on to this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Powersports-Zephyr-Full-Face-Motorcycle/dp/B000HX7DD2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/184-1236483-7166615
Foolish me has been going without a helmet all this time. I read about someone dying on an electric bike so this week, I'm going to make sure I buy one.
I also like this style of helmet. I think ypedal turned me on to this one.
AussieJester
1 TW
According to the pm i got from Morph he has stumbled upon my deceased friend Rhetts thread on Moteredbikes.com
Rhett died when he passed out form low blood sugar whilst riding an ebike, he never regained consciousness his life support
was turned off after a couple of months by his beloved wife...
Rhetts accident is yet another reason i push the need for people to wear helmets, it disgusts me people on this forum think the are "invincible" and dont need them, wake the frock up! as great as you tools think you are accidents are UNAVOIDABLE no matter how great a rider you think you are, yes yes yes John, i can see your about to chip in with your oh so brilliant crap, leave it out this time pal you think Methy is given you a serve aint noithing on the shit you will receive from me if you chip in here genius...... if you ride a bike and fall and hit your head on the ground WITHOUT some protection you will come off worse..
KiM
R.I.P Rhett
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Rhett died when he passed out form low blood sugar whilst riding an ebike, he never regained consciousness his life support
was turned off after a couple of months by his beloved wife...
Rhetts accident is yet another reason i push the need for people to wear helmets, it disgusts me people on this forum think the are "invincible" and dont need them, wake the frock up! as great as you tools think you are accidents are UNAVOIDABLE no matter how great a rider you think you are, yes yes yes John, i can see your about to chip in with your oh so brilliant crap, leave it out this time pal you think Methy is given you a serve aint noithing on the shit you will receive from me if you chip in here genius...... if you ride a bike and fall and hit your head on the ground WITHOUT some protection you will come off worse..
KiM
R.I.P Rhett
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johnrobholmes
10 MW
The larger full face will be cooler as you are riding, but as soon as you stop it will be pretty muggy. The bicycle full face will be cooler all around, but not offer as much protection at speed.
dumbass
100 kW
swbluto said:
I don't know about someone dying on an Ebike but last summer a guy got starttled by a bird swooping at him on a bike trail I use. He lost control of the bike and fell over hitting his head. I don't know if he was wearing a helmet or not but when he was found he had already died from his injury.
John in CR
100 TW
Morph should definitely wear a helmet. How's that for you AJ?
EMF
100 kW
I don't wear a helmet. If I fall, I don't want to live.
FeralDog
100 W
May I suggest BERN 
AussieJester
1 TW
John in CR said:
Thankyou John, apologies for the rudeness in my above post, Rhett was a good man
and a friend of mine i feel somewhat responsible for his demise, he wouldnt ride the -bike for days after it arrrived he was 'sacared' of it, i pushed and pushed to get him on it, he lay in a coma for a good 2 month and never regained consciousness, he was brain dead, i would hate
to see another person from here suffer the same fate, its not just the person that has the accident that is effected in a way they get it easy if they die, the relatives and loved ones are left to suffer the loss, doctors straight up said a helmet would have saved his life.
As i have continually argued with you John and other non-helmet wearing advocates, accidents happen the only way you can prepare for them is be properly protected.
KiM
dumbass
100 kW
AussieJester said:
It's certainly regreatable about your friend and I don't know what was or wasn't said in any MP but I think it's clear by this thread that Morph is asking an honest and concerned question regarding helmets. Like anything that is not govererned helmets are a personal choice to be made by each individual. I personally wear a helmet on most ocations as does my wife. However, there are those times for what ever reason when I haven't. But it was my choice and I knew the possible dangers when doing just as everyone else does when they chose to do it. It is the same as motorcycle riders who chose not to wear a helmet. Actually it is 100 time worse for motorcyclers. But yet I see at least 50% do not. Why? Because it's their right to choice. Are they at much higher risk? In my opinion of course they are but it's their right to their choice no matter the cost.
John in CR
100 TW
AussieJester said:
I'm no advocate, I just don't want to have to wear one except when I feel the urge to. My goal is to never have one come into play one way or the other, making the issue irrelevant for me.
dogman dan
1 PW
Comfort vs helmets is a dilemma in hot weather. In my warm climate, most of the year I wear a regular bicycle helmet, and in the winter use a non vented model intended for snowboarding. The bike helmets protection is not as good as a motorcycle helmet, but one did save my noggin when I had my big crash and drove my temple into the curb. The helmet was crushed, but I had zero head injury. Two broke collarbones though. I was going slow, about 15 mph, and got a waterbottle into the forks. 20-30 mph is my ebike travel speed.
On my scooter, going 50-60 mph, I wear a full face motorcycle helmet that even at that speed is pretty uncomfortable in summer, but worth it to wear. Having the windshield at 50 mph is worth it, especially when trucks flip rocks at your face. A helmet like this is much better protection, but would get a little bit cooler if ridden with the face shield flipped up. Get it in white or light silver. Black helmets get real hot in summer.
To wear a helmet or not is a personal choice, but I have found it worth it. I guess I'm the kind of guy who will need one sooner or later. At least I have in the past for sure.
On my scooter, going 50-60 mph, I wear a full face motorcycle helmet that even at that speed is pretty uncomfortable in summer, but worth it to wear. Having the windshield at 50 mph is worth it, especially when trucks flip rocks at your face. A helmet like this is much better protection, but would get a little bit cooler if ridden with the face shield flipped up. Get it in white or light silver. Black helmets get real hot in summer.
To wear a helmet or not is a personal choice, but I have found it worth it. I guess I'm the kind of guy who will need one sooner or later. At least I have in the past for sure.
dumbass
100 kW
morph999 said:
Hey, wouldn't it be great if they would make a helmet with a space at the top to put one of those flexable freezer bags in. Imagin a one of those on top of your heat. Cold goes down so it might even cool your face too......
geekybiker
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dumbass said:morph999 said:
Hey, wouldn't it be great if they would make a helmet with a space at the top to put one of those flexable freezer bags in. Imagin a one of those on top of your heat. Cold goes down so it might even cool your face too......
They make neck wraps for motorcycles that you wet and the evaporation does wonders to cool you.
vanilla ice
1 MW
Soak a bandana and wear it under your bicycle helmet. Its easy to rewet on the fly.. at least this works very well in dry heat like we get here. Probably not so much in humid places. I used to do this when I rode motorcycles daily and it worked out well in the DOT fullys. No reason to be miserable when one minute of prep can prevent it. And a barrier between your sweat glands and the helmet will only keep it cleaner and better smelling in the long run. I used to always wear a bandana under my DOT lid, even when it was cold.. dry of course.
Morph, if you plan on pedal assisting, don't get the DOT bell.. get the DH'er. Motorcycle lid is going to be too hot and you won't use it. A bicycle helmet on your head is better protection than a DOT helmet you leave on the shelf.
Morph, if you plan on pedal assisting, don't get the DOT bell.. get the DH'er. Motorcycle lid is going to be too hot and you won't use it. A bicycle helmet on your head is better protection than a DOT helmet you leave on the shelf.
Sheriff Jon
100 W
Wearing a Helmet may only be a matter of personal choice in some areas, and a legal requirement in others, but IMO it is a wise choice in ANY situation while riding on public roads. The darker the color (Black) the more solar heat it will absorb and retain. So a lighter color (White) would be better if heat is a concern. BMX fullface types tend to be lighter and have more vents than the fullface road type or even the Motocross Helmets. But the fullface road Helmets or the Motocross fullface types will offer more protection in the event of a fall or crash.
If he was already dead when found, how did anyone know what caused the crash? On-bike cam?dumbass said:
zap
100 W
amberwolf said:
I was pondering the exact same question!
Maybe the bird confessed!? :?
