Lebowski
10 MW
life sucks 
basically my company did so bad the entire site here will be closed by the end of the year
basically my company did so bad the entire site here will be closed by the end of the year
got fired yesterday
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hjns
100 kW
Oh, that sucks!!
I hope that they will give you some months salary, and some help getting another job?
Consider moving to Basel, very nice here....
Seriously, if you need help, just shoot me a PM. En ik ken een heleboel nederlanders hier, dus misschien helpt dat ook.
I hope that they will give you some months salary, and some help getting another job?
Consider moving to Basel, very nice here....
Seriously, if you need help, just shoot me a PM. En ik ken een heleboel nederlanders hier, dus misschien helpt dat ook.
MattyCiii
100 kW
Definitely a sign of a company with a leadership vacuum... let the talented employees go!
Sorry for your news, I wish you all the best.
Sorry for your news, I wish you all the best.
nieles
10 kW
oh man, sorry to hear this.
i really think the controller project has major potential!
Njay said:
i really think the controller project has major potential!
That sucks!
Hopefully you can find something even better.
Hopefully you can find something even better.
gensem
100 kW
To be truth I hate being fired, but...
You might end up making some money from your controller project and just quit being an employ for now on!
You might end up making some money from your controller project and just quit being an employ for now on!
Hey buddy lets get this controller project ripping. You are a very talented individual and you can make shit piles of money with your smarts you just need the right game plan!!! You are in good company on this forum! The future will be better than the past!
deVries
100 kW
+++++1, 2, 3, 4... 8)Njay said:Well, I guess now you'll have the time needed to make a few more terrific projects and start your own company to sell them.
Sorry for the news, but on the bright side you can focus more on your eBike projects. On the hungry side ES will love you being here and working more and more on your projects to offer more controllers here (etc.) & all that much sooner too.
Hopefully you have some money saved & can take a vacation doing more ES eBike play errr... real-work. :lol:
izeman
1 GW
Lebowski said:life sucks
basically my company did so bad the entire site here will be closed by the end of the year
my mother would say: "who knows what it's good for". i hate that, but sometimes it's true
it can and will get better!dnmun
1 PW
i still remember that day myself 21yrs, 4 mths, 17dys.
are they shrinking the entire engineering staff or just cutting some of the herd?
i volunteered since they offered incentives to sever, but i was already burned out so i took it.
for work to cover this gap, think about the people who used the products or services you guys did. immediately put together a CV and send it to them, and make it a point to juice up your contacts there and see if you can at least get contract work with them since they may need help if they lost their main supplier.
learn chinese. or at least see if you can merge your stuff with what the chinese need to take over the euro markets. even if you go over to someone like a BYD importer who needs technical staff to fill the hole in sales and technical staff locally. but that may mean moving to poland if i understand correctly how the euro economies are restructuring. BOL
ps: i was the first to leave, but eventually everyone in my group was severed. H-P did a massive downsizing and basically cut out the MTS, member of the technical staff, and it is just bean counters now. that was a great place, it was bill hewlett that got steve jobs to come work for them, and the woz also was working there then, all the engineers loved dave packard, a personable and gentle giant. i could not have been at a better place to help build up the IC manufacturing business back then. in the end i was so glad i did not go to intel and join the pentium group at the start. as it was, i worked 100hr weeks for 11 years, i can imagine what it woulda been like working in the pentium development group.
i miss working but i am too old. being free has it's own rewards.
are they shrinking the entire engineering staff or just cutting some of the herd?
i volunteered since they offered incentives to sever, but i was already burned out so i took it.
for work to cover this gap, think about the people who used the products or services you guys did. immediately put together a CV and send it to them, and make it a point to juice up your contacts there and see if you can at least get contract work with them since they may need help if they lost their main supplier.
learn chinese. or at least see if you can merge your stuff with what the chinese need to take over the euro markets. even if you go over to someone like a BYD importer who needs technical staff to fill the hole in sales and technical staff locally. but that may mean moving to poland if i understand correctly how the euro economies are restructuring. BOL
ps: i was the first to leave, but eventually everyone in my group was severed. H-P did a massive downsizing and basically cut out the MTS, member of the technical staff, and it is just bean counters now. that was a great place, it was bill hewlett that got steve jobs to come work for them, and the woz also was working there then, all the engineers loved dave packard, a personable and gentle giant. i could not have been at a better place to help build up the IC manufacturing business back then. in the end i was so glad i did not go to intel and join the pentium group at the start. as it was, i worked 100hr weeks for 11 years, i can imagine what it woulda been like working in the pentium development group.
i miss working but i am too old. being free has it's own rewards.
Kingfish
100 MW
Meh. Getting fired is part and parcel of my career. I didn’t say I like it, but often it plays out like this:
It’s crossed my mind to work elsewhere, but I like the country here (rain and all): It’s pretty and green nearly year ‘round. Not many places like that. Plus, there’s good beer… and coffee <sigh>
You’ll find something very cool, I’m certain. Just don’ t let the bastards get you down.
Chin up, KF
- Rep: Hey we got a hot job for you! Pay is competitive, but it’s cool stuff and you’ll get in on the ground floor and influence development. When can you start?
Read: My ass is in a jam and we need bodies to cover up the mess. We’ll work you like dogs, pay you like dirt, and lie about when your time is up. Just get yer butt down here and don’t make me hate you.
Me: Will you accept 1099 or C2C?
Read: I know your cheap-ass game. Why are you calling me?
Rep: Um, no we only do W-2.
<this conversation is over> OR…
Rep: Yes, we can do C2C if you have insurance.
Read: You are pulling my crank! Bet you don’t have it…
Me: Yes, I am an LLC and been in business since 1987.
Read: You were a twinkle in your Daddy’s eye when I got started in this biz, so FOAD.
Rep: OK then we just need to agree on the rate…
<and so it goes>.
It’s crossed my mind to work elsewhere, but I like the country here (rain and all): It’s pretty and green nearly year ‘round. Not many places like that. Plus, there’s good beer… and coffee <sigh>
You’ll find something very cool, I’m certain. Just don’ t let the bastards get you down.
Chin up, KF
I sympathize; the last two companies I worked for basically put them selves out of business because of such measures and other crappy policies.
Teh one I'm at now has been cutting personnel and hours for the last 3+ years. At the location I am at, we started 4.5 years ago with maybe 15 people, at least 5-10 at a time on a shift, most of them full-time. Now we have only two full time regular employees, and four fulltime managers (only one of whom is salaried), and four parttimers. As of now, even though we have been making higher profits and exceeding goals set for us, we have just had 50 more hours cut from payroll, so we now run on way less than 200 hours a week. The parttimers basically get no hours (half a day a week, if that), and even fulltimers are getting the minimum. This is not enough to do even all of the most basic of tasks in the huge list of things that must get done, much less to help all the people that come in (and so less and less poeple come back, when they can't get help). Then they audit us and fail us because so many things are not completed, because there is nto enough time to even *start* a lot of those things, much less finish them or do them right. I am just waiting for the company to begin closing down locations, of which ours would probably be one of the first here in the valley.
It is unfortunately not just us, but most retail companies, that do this. When I worked at CompUSA, the same thing happened over the 12 years I was there (including my time at ComputerCity that CUSA bought out)--cutbacks in labor to increase profits, then finding that profits decreased because sales decreased, because less people could be helped and less product could be sold, because less people were there to help the customers that came in, and so fewer of those customers would bother to come back and buy from us. Eventually between that and mismanagement of other types at the top levels, the company folded.
Yet, the whole time, management kept saying that there was too much labor spent and not enough sales, despite showing them repeatedly that when we were given more hours to spend with customers selling them things, we could more than make up for that cost with sales and profits, giving a greater total ratio of earnings to spendings. All they cared about was cutting the actual costs, for false instant rewards of higher false instant profits due to the cutbacks. The same thing goes on everywhere I've worked in retail, and probably everywhere else.
Teh one I'm at now has been cutting personnel and hours for the last 3+ years. At the location I am at, we started 4.5 years ago with maybe 15 people, at least 5-10 at a time on a shift, most of them full-time. Now we have only two full time regular employees, and four fulltime managers (only one of whom is salaried), and four parttimers. As of now, even though we have been making higher profits and exceeding goals set for us, we have just had 50 more hours cut from payroll, so we now run on way less than 200 hours a week. The parttimers basically get no hours (half a day a week, if that), and even fulltimers are getting the minimum. This is not enough to do even all of the most basic of tasks in the huge list of things that must get done, much less to help all the people that come in (and so less and less poeple come back, when they can't get help). Then they audit us and fail us because so many things are not completed, because there is nto enough time to even *start* a lot of those things, much less finish them or do them right.
I am just waiting for the company to begin closing down locations, of which ours would probably be one of the first here in the valley. It is unfortunately not just us, but most retail companies, that do this. When I worked at CompUSA, the same thing happened over the 12 years I was there (including my time at ComputerCity that CUSA bought out)--cutbacks in labor to increase profits, then finding that profits decreased because sales decreased, because less people could be helped and less product could be sold, because less people were there to help the customers that came in, and so fewer of those customers would bother to come back and buy from us. Eventually between that and mismanagement of other types at the top levels, the company folded.
Yet, the whole time, management kept saying that there was too much labor spent and not enough sales, despite showing them repeatedly that when we were given more hours to spend with customers selling them things, we could more than make up for that cost with sales and profits, giving a greater total ratio of earnings to spendings. All they cared about was cutting the actual costs, for false instant rewards of higher false instant profits due to the cutbacks. The same thing goes on everywhere I've worked in retail, and probably everywhere else.
EMF
100 kW
Lessss
1 MW
Always watch for the signs.
1) The department name just changed. Why? So that a large number of emails/phone calls get misdirected and create choas long enough for the new manager to learn his job and hide his mistakes in the chaos of the name change.
fill em in guys
2)...
1) The department name just changed. Why? So that a large number of emails/phone calls get misdirected and create choas long enough for the new manager to learn his job and hide his mistakes in the chaos of the name change.
fill em in guys
2)...
bigmoose
1 MW
Lebowski I know these events come as a shock, and sure upset the family. 80% of the good, motivated, and ethical folks that I have known going through such an event, came out better in their opinion after 3 to 4 years. When they assessed the even in later years, they typically said, "I knew the company was heading down the drain... and my career had stagnated."
Know that we wish you good luck in your career. You are a great chap with great skills! America could use people like you. (I am recruiting, can you tell? :wink: )
Know that we wish you good luck in your career. You are a great chap with great skills! America could use people like you. (I am recruiting, can you tell? :wink: )
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