Graphene, possible non-battery uses in bicycles?

I expect the process eventually is going to involve a large "flour sifter" hanging over a tray with the polymer, and it would sift out an even pre measured amount into the activated polymer . The tray with the polymer would be possibly agitated with maybe an ultrasonic process to get the graphene to lay as evenly as possible. Then apply a vacuum to the sheet to make it compress down and lay as flat and evenly as possible. The solution will likely be a simple one no one has thought of yet. Just the same way it was discovered with scotch tape and graphite.
 
rborger73 said:
"The mechanical strength of the PEDOT and graphene composite film shows 6-fold enhancement over the pristine PEDOT film."

Big deal. You're talking about plastic film. Making it 6 times stronger does not come close to putting it on a par with ordinary low performing structural materials.

Other cheap fillers (e.g. chopped glass fiber) can do an even better job that that. So if you don't need the electrical or thermal properties, what's the point?
 
You stop telling lies and fantasies about graphene and I'll gladly stop calling them out.
 
Chalo said:
You stop telling lies and fantasies about graphene and I'll gladly stop calling them out.


You're seriously an annoyance on this forum. You aren't right. At all. Period.. end of story.. There is a half dozen GD links there you can read. All of them cover the increase of strength, the increase of resilience to breaking, and the how the properties are unlike anything else. Now PLEASE just avoid the thread.. You're like a petulant gd child.. You've pulled this shit in every thread I've put on this board. You do this in other people's threads as well. Even when information is posted refuting your bullshit, you persist.
 
Nothing you've posted has made the case that any graphene composite is structurally even as good as mild steel or architectural aluminum, let alone the higher performing materials that we take for granted in the cycling world.
 
Chalo said:
Nothing you've posted has made the case that any graphene composite is structurally even as good as mild steel or architectural aluminum, let alone the higher performing materials that we take for granted in the cycling world.


Yes, they GD do. Jesus.. I'm out.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/09/mits-3d-graphene-is-ten-times-stronger-than-steel/

https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/09/mits-3d-graphene-is-ten-times-stronger-than-steel/

https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/09/mits-3d-graphene-is-ten-times-stronger-than-steel/
 
https://phys.org/news/2016-10-strength-gap-graphene-carbon-fiber.html

https://phys.org/news/2016-10-strength-gap-graphene-carbon-fiber.html

https://phys.org/news/2016-10-strength-gap-graphene-carbon-fiber.html
 
" As a result, the fracture toughness of the composite with 1 wt% graphene was improved by 17% compared with the plain geopolymer. "

http://www.materialstoday.com/polymers-soft-materials/features/reinforced-geopolymer-composites-a-critical-review/
 
rborger73, I appreciate the video link you posted. It detailed that custom bike manufacturer "Dassi" actually has a frame with a material that embodies what they feel is the best blend of new technologies that include Graphene. I suspect if I could get on a waiting list to buy a Dassi bicycle, that it would be more expensive than a comparable frame that is conventional CF. The Dassi might be a little lighter, and hopefully much stronger and impact-resistant (the biggest drawback of CF...IMHO).

I look forward to other manufacturers coming out with competing products, so prices and availability improve. Also, more product means more reviews by websites that test the claims, and filter out the BS. We will see. Perhaps take a few months away from this, so other manufacturers can come up with more models that have graphene in them. If it is as great as you seem to feel, there will be no stopping it from taking a large market share very fast. It sounds good to me, and I am now cautiously optimistic...
 
Adding powder to epoxy won't do it. That works with big particles or short fibers in high load %, but a nanocomposite can only be achieved with 2 pre-integration steps. First the mineral has to be assembled in a molecule using a strong acid in the presence of a gas ( usually oxygen) to produce a molecule that will fit together with the resin molecule, then the filler material has to be dissolved/mixed in a solvent, usually acetone but many other solvents can be used as long as they blend with the resin.

The solvent that contains the nanoparticles can now be integrated to the resin, mixed to a very even distribution, and finally evaporated. Then the hardener is added to the resin, and cured.

Then we measure all of its properties, with various loading % and integration methods. It is not a cheap process, to develop the nanocomposite that has the desired properties for the task, neither to produce it for manufacturing. Graphene nanocomposites will find their use in many fields, but it is early to guess where they will be both an advantage and profitable to justify their use. The detailed list of processes and properties have not been done yet.

The goal is not to add graphene in a resin like peanuts in a cake (that is what most are doing with it right now), but to create a new resin molecule that has graphene atoms. In a link you posted it had been integrated in polyurethane resins successfully to create a nanocomposite. That is a good begining, and proves it can be done with other resins that are more dense. Then only, it will have a true advantage in the making of a CF rim. Will it be profitable ? That is another story.
 
Some of the biggest issues here are likely from a lack of clear distinction and definition. While all graphite's are carbon, not all carbon is graphite. As an allo of carbon, one of many hundreds, graphene is as unique as diamonds (ALSO an allotrope of carbon). But graphene it is a very specific description, limited to a molecular two-dimensional form! Nearly clear in one view, and all but completely invisible from another perpendicular view. In such a molecular layer, it's hundreds of time stronger than steel,... of course a molecular layer of steel is by it's very nature much thicker simply because it is 3-dimentional molecular compound. AND this is what so unique of graphene,.... it's molecular scale and structure. Although a sheet of graphene probably won't compare to a sheet of aluminum foil either!!! Being THOUSANDS of times thicker, the aluminum foil is certainly stronger in such a poor two-dimensional comparison. And in a "tiny 2-dimentional flake" form blended in a polymer base,.... neither will be able to exhibit their unique qualities of which both are inherently and uniquely capable. In of itself, it's jus a molecule of carbon,.... but as the perfect basic carbon molecular structure of 3-D allos like nano-tubes and assorted fullers, it WILL be important!!! Kinda like the various aggregates of concrete,... all being rock! But it's the various grades, structure, texture, and size that's important to the desired need. To define graphene as the single most important element, of graphite and carbon composites, is comparable to defining rock as the single most important element of concrete,... rather vague and indistinct. But when considering the possible 3-D components from graphene or rock,... we can define the true virtues of composites and concrete.

It's also not likely that graphite and various carbon allotropes will replace the steel reinforcement used in structural concrete either, jus as steel or rock won't serve as a structural component or reinforcement of poly-composites. It's a matter of the molecular nature of such materials combining in unison with one another. Yes, Iron becomes unique with carbon,... but other minerals and elements are far more important in concrete. Jus as stable carbon molecules are in hydrocarbon composites!!!!

Scotch tape and graphite, IS NOT an indefinite molecule of graphene on a poly base!!! But individual molecules of graphite and graphene structures, it doesn't make the tape stronger. But it did lead to a unique, single, perfect, two dimensional, stable molecule of a carbon allo of which 3-D tubes, fullers, buckys and more may be constructed. These 3-D "components" will form a perfect and incredibly strong "poly" yet to be discovered. If such a poly is stable enough,.... some incredible structures can be built. IF various or specific hydrocarbon and poly molecules can attach in a meaningful and useful manner to even a single bit of graphene's molecule,.... some HUGE benefits will be seen. Much like a step from the Iron age into the age of steel with little than carbon, and a new found technology. The future isn't "applying" graphene, like a flour, dust, spray or even spun fibers,.... but COMBINING molecules of carbons graphene and allos with various poly molecules to create a uniqueness of it own.

Too many can only see "componants",.... cloth, fibers, beads, flakes, dust etc., but graphite is to polys, what carbon is to iron!!! Ya cant dust iron and call it steel!!!! And dusting nylons, polymers, etc,.... will not make a superior product either! Carbon fibers are pretty AWESOME,... but fail miserably in many applications and composites. Graphene will be no different. Untill those molecular secrets are further unlocked.
 
rborger73 said:
https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/09/mits-3d-graphene-is-ten-times-stronger-than-steel/

Did you even read this? They 3D printed some computer modeled nonsense from ANOTHER MATERIAL based on a theoretical structure for graphene that they CAN'T MAKE, and they test the 3D printed plastic parts for integrity. And this somehow proves graphene to you?

In the meantime, people actually making graphene are still cranking out dandruff flakes less than a micron across and one atom thick.

Good luck with that. You're proving what I've been saying.
 
rborger73 said:
There isn't an industry that won't use Graphene in the near future. It is going to be more widely used than plastics are now.

I could easily imagine graphene's molecule to be the basis of the next perfect diamond,... free of occlusions, faults and undesired cleaves presently found in the natural diamond crystalline form. Many industries will certainly explore the use of graphene's perfection,.... INCLUDING steel industries that may hope to improve the common bicycle spoke. In such a sense,.... YES, more widely used than plastic. Heck, we don't use plastic in diamonds and steel! And unlike plastic, there's many other potential uses and needs for carbon,... INCLUDING PLASTICS!!!!

Will it replace plastic??? NO! Nor will it replace steel, or anything else! IT'S CARBON,.... specifically GRAPHITE!!!! A smudge,.... a whisp of smoke! Depending upon it's density,... a "lump" may crumble under foot like charcoal, or provide the near perfect bearing surface exceeding that of diamonds since graphite is more stable than diamond. Light densities may crumble slowly,... heavy densities may explode violently as that clip attempts to demonstrate, much like charcoal and diamonds, but it's still carbon.

Since graphite and graphene are carbon allos,... they will be a PART of the vast essential need for carbon, a supporting element like any other element, more useful in compounds than to stand alone. Like iron and moly,... neither very good in themselves for most applications. Vastly improved when combined as an alloy, and near perfect with carbon!!! And perhaps better with graphene!
 
This thread is quite interesting, but one thing strikes me... what is borger smoking?
Chalo has pointed out over and over, that adding small particles of a stronger material to another material, will not change the game.

A good example is the markforged 3d printer tech compared to "carbon fiber filament".
The markforged printer has two nozzles, one used to put continuous fibers into nylon prints (fiberglass, kevlar or carbon fiber strand)
This creates very stiff parts compared to regular nylon or other plastic 3d printing. Upwards of 20fold stronger in two directions.

Then there are these plastic filaments with carbon fiber particles mixed in, sold as "carbon fiber filament". While this might slightly improves the strength of the plastic, its very marginal.

Exactly the same thing with grapheme in structural elements today. Linking graphene sheets from aliexpress is utter bullshit.
At best it has particles of graphene mixed in. It is NOT a graphene sheet.

I can't wait for graphene to become a real structural material, but this does not change what the reality is today.

And to comment about spoked wheels, if you are breaking spokes, its probably because the wheel is not correctly built.
I have experienced this with a hubmotor in an aluminum rim that I bought already laced in.
The spokes were too thick for the rim and could not be tensioned enough to ensure a pulling force in the spokes under all riding conditions.
When this happens it is like bending a piece of metal back and forth, it will fatigue and break sooner or later.

However, if you have a better engineered wheel where the spokes will keep tension regardless of riding conditions, your wheel will hold up well.
This is basic mechanical engineering.

That said, there are cheaper and "maintenance free" alternatives to tensioned wheels for many applications, like cars.
Common sense says that the larger diameter of the wheel, the harder it will be to match a tensioned wheel in terms of strength to weight.
 
DRMousseau said:
Some of the biggest issues here are likely from a lack of clear distinction and definition. While all graphite's are carbon, not all carbon is graphite. As an allo of carbon, one of many hundreds, graphene is as unique as diamonds (ALSO an allotrope of carbon). But graphene it is a very specific description, limited to a molecular two-dimensional form! Nearly clear in one view, and all but completely invisible from another perpendicular view. In such a molecular layer, it's hundreds of time stronger than steel,... of course a molecular layer of steel is by it's very nature much thicker simply because it is 3-dimentional molecular compound. AND this is what so unique of graphene,.... it's molecular scale and structure. Although a sheet of graphene probably won't compare to a sheet of aluminum foil either!!! Being THOUSANDS of times thicker, the aluminum foil is certainly stronger in such a poor two-dimensional comparison. And in a "tiny 2-dimentional flake" form blended in a polymer base,.... neither will be able to exhibit their unique qualities of which both are inherently and uniquely capable. In of itself, it's jus a molecule of carbon,.... but as the perfect basic carbon molecular structure of 3-D allos like nano-tubes and assorted fullers, it WILL be important!!! Kinda like the various aggregates of concrete,... all being rock! But it's the various grades, structure, texture, and size that's important to the desired need. To define graphene as the single most important element, of graphite and carbon composites, is comparable to defining rock as the single most important element of concrete,... rather vague and indistinct. But when considering the possible 3-D components from graphene or rock,... we can define the true virtues of composites and concrete.

It's also not likely that graphite and various carbon allotropes will replace the steel reinforcement used in structural concrete either, jus as steel or rock won't serve as a structural component or reinforcement of poly-composites. It's a matter of the molecular nature of such materials combining in unison with one another. Yes, Iron becomes unique with carbon,... but other minerals and elements are far more important in concrete. Jus as stable carbon molecules are in hydrocarbon composites!!!!

Scotch tape and graphite, IS NOT an indefinite molecule of graphene on a poly base!!! But individual molecules of graphite and graphene structures, it doesn't make the tape stronger. But it did lead to a unique, single, perfect, two dimensional, stable molecule of a carbon allo of which 3-D tubes, fullers, buckys and more may be constructed. These 3-D "components" will form a perfect and incredibly strong "poly" yet to be discovered. If such a poly is stable enough,.... some incredible structures can be built. IF various or specific hydrocarbon and poly molecules can attach in a meaningful and useful manner to even a single bit of graphene's molecule,.... some HUGE benefits will be seen. Much like a step from the Iron age into the age of steel with little than carbon, and a new found technology. The future isn't "applying" graphene, like a flour, dust, spray or even spun fibers,.... but COMBINING molecules of carbons graphene and allos with various poly molecules to create a uniqueness of it own.

Too many can only see "componants",.... cloth, fibers, beads, flakes, dust etc., but graphite is to polys, what carbon is to iron!!! Ya cant dust iron and call it steel!!!! And dusting nylons, polymers, etc,.... will not make a superior product either! Carbon fibers are pretty AWESOME,... but fail miserably in many applications and composites. Graphene will be no different. Untill those molecular secrets are further unlocked.

Good post.

Just observing the debate, but the way u put it, concurs w/ my layman's preconception of what is truly revolutionary about graphene/bucky balls etc., and thats is molecular/atomic level building blocks can be "grown" into undreamt of structures, one atom thick if u like, and all those wonderful bonding options of carbon.

What is being discussed here in the thread is just using it as a new ~aggregate in `~concrete.

Its kinda cool to see the humble bicycle at the cutting edge of material science, along with military and racing yachts ....

Speaking of "growing", I have recently marvelled at how a bunch of grapes has to be a model for SOMETHING? It makes me think of a pouch cell battery pack, with the stalks as perfectly tuned diameter interconnects.
 
cycleops612Just observing the debate said:
LoL! Yes,... an "aggregate" or reinforcement! Revolutionary, right? (hehehe,..)

Growing up in the 50's and 60's, it's been pretty amazing to see the EXPLOSION of technology on so many levels that's jus mindboggling!!!! And it was not without a huge interest and a personal applied physical activity in history and "antiques(?)"!!! From "transistor" batteries to LiPo's, Mirrored Daguerrotypes to JPEG's and GIFs, spruce spars to chrome moly "aircraft tubing", split bamboo to carbon composite fishing rods, carbon arcs to LED's, whitewash to powdercoats, fireworks to,.... ah, I won't admit more here. But REAL hands-on experience in fuming mercury, Nitrating, welding frames of moly, oh, nitrous explosions (whew!), and a lifetime of personal activity and efforts in various industries establishing new and unimaginable standards, have been an invaluable Blessing to me!!!! Heck,... styrofoam, didn't even exist when I was a kid.

But carbons and graphites too, have always been there somehow and have always had my attentions,... then, in the 80's, someone thru out the name of "buckminsterfullerene"(C60)!!! Now I haven't been yet able to convince my Florida buddy to consider a hurricane resistant poly/geodesic garage similar to other structures I've messed with since the 60's,... but you can damn well bet, "Bucky's" name had my FULL attention!!!! History??? Science??? eh,...

No matter HOW you "grow" graphites,.... it's still carbon. With strong bonds yes, because it's extremely stable. And on a molecular level of a single molecule, EXTREMELY strong! As a 3-D molecule, C60 is near perfect,... the 2-D molecule of "graphene", not so much, but no less amazing, because it's the basic structure of 3-D fullers!!! Combine enough molecules into a 3-d form,... like a cup,... and you have a graphite cup or crucible. It'll keep your coffee nice and hot,... but it's NOT unbreakable, it's a graphite cup. Crush it, and the molecules of graphene are still there and still unbelievably strong and stable. The "theory" of a single molecule cup is still there. But most theories fall apart beyond the molecular level. Still,... Using graphene's unique molecular bonds to form new polymers or even new steels will be revolutionary!!!! Your "graphene polymer" cup,... will keep coffee hot, be VERY durable, maybe even used to smelt your scrap gold!!! And hopefully it will be recyclable!!!! The abuse of one-use polys has been environmentally devastating given carbons stability in many polymers.

And the lowly bicycle frame, wheels and tires of revolutionary steels and polys,.... well we have MANY now, and we'll certainly have many more!!!
 
DRMousseau said:
cycleops612Just observing the debate said:
LoL! Yes,... an "aggregate" or reinforcement! Revolutionary, right? (hehehe,..)

Growing up in the 50's and 60's, it's been pretty amazing to see the EXPLOSION of technology on so many levels that's jus mindboggling!!!! And it was not without a huge interest and a personal applied physical activity in history and "antiques(?)"!!! From "transistor" batteries to LiPo's, Mirrored Daguerrotypes to JPEG's and GIFs, spruce spars to chrome moly "aircraft tubing", split bamboo to carbon composite fishing rods, carbon arcs to LED's, whitewash to powdercoats, fireworks to,.... ah, I won't admit more here. But REAL hands-on experience in fuming mercury, Nitrating, welding frames of moly, oh, nitrous explosions (whew!), and a lifetime of personal activity and efforts in various industries establishing new and unimaginable standards, have been an invaluable Blessing to me!!!! Heck,... styrofoam, didn't even exist when I was a kid.

But carbons and graphites too, have always been there somehow and have always had my attentions,... then, in the 80's, someone thru out the name of "buckminsterfullerene"(C60)!!! Now I haven't been yet able to convince my Florida buddy to consider a hurricane resistant poly/geodesic garage similar to other structures I've messed with since the 60's,... but you can damn well bet, "Bucky's" name had my FULL attention!!!! History??? Science??? eh,...

No matter HOW you "grow" graphites,.... it's still carbon. With strong bonds yes, because it's extremely stable. And on a molecular level of a single molecule, EXTREMELY strong! As a 3-D molecule, C60 is near perfect,... the 2-D molecule of "graphene", not so much, but no less amazing, because it's the basic structure of 3-D fullers!!! Combine enough molecules into a 3-d form,... like a cup,... and you have a graphite cup or crucible. It'll keep your coffee nice and hot,... but it's NOT unbreakable, it's a graphite cup. Crush it, and the molecules of graphene are still there and still unbelievably strong and stable. The "theory" of a single molecule cup is still there. But most theories fall apart beyond the molecular level. Still,... Using graphene's unique molecular bonds to form new polymers or even new steels will be revolutionary!!!! Your "graphene polymer" cup,... will keep coffee hot, be VERY durable, maybe even used to smelt your scrap gold!!! And hopefully it will be recyclable!!!! The abuse of one-use polys has been environmentally devastating given carbons stability in many polymers.

And the lowly bicycle frame, wheels and tires of revolutionary steels and polys,.... well we have MANY now, and we'll certainly have many more!!!

Thanks again from me (& others am sure) - enlightening.

My "aggregate" crack wasnt an opinion BTW, which I tried to avoid expressing, just paraphrasing the nay sayers here.

Blessed are we ignorant, for we can be more optimistic should we choose. I prefer to never say never. Your doubts re molecular level "growing", should be prefixed with "based on what we know ATM ...". As u say, this has proved very variable in our lifetimes.

Tell me about it. I started my IT biz in about 1980. Basically setting up small biz with the inarguably benefits of the new tech as it evolved and became cost justifiable. The last few expensively bought items of stock of course never sold, and sat on my shelves to haunt and depress me :(.
 
Sorry,... I well understood your "aggregate" crack to be more a perception of understanding.

Based upon what we know at the moment,.... we can still theorize, and I take great delight in this as do others. Looking over a vast nearby river valley,... I KNOW it's there. And I can "theorize" where I should most likely look. Directing my friend to obtain a 5-gal sample of the stream bottom from behind a particular rock, I set to task at hand. And within 30min, my friend is SHOCKED to see that I have found an incredibly tiny speck of GOLD, smaller than the finest grain of heavy black sand that's abundant in the bottom my cereal bowl. None of which is carbon by the way, most being magnetite, iron oxides, hematite,... and that tiny speck of gold, a rather rare and uncommon element. While my friend is simply amazed,.... I stand in wonder, know that carbon is present in tens of thousands time more abundance, yet not so easy show him as was that gold (while an occasional garnet appears,...I have yet to see a diamond (carbon) in my bowl). And in the universe as a whole,... carbon is 5times more abundant than found here on earths crust.

C60 was created and discovered in the mid-80's not long ago,... how shocking for me to learn that it was likely naturally present several years before in the sooty smudge that obscured my facemask, as I was welding with carbon arcs in a shield of helium (and I much prefer TIG)!!!! They weren't looking for C60,... it jus happened incidentally. And "in theory", based of what we know,... that perfect two dimensional, 6C graphene molecule ALSO existed.

Now there's a big difference in "growing" a crystal,.... and forming a molecule. The perception here, is that IN THEORY,.... a molecule of C600000000000(?) or something similar could be created. But I kinda believe the more recent Q-Carbon will be more useful in building bicycles,... but that's jus a hunch, not a theory. lol
In the meantime,... I too, gaze at red giants in distant galaxies and wonder.
 
DRMousseau said:
Sorry,... I well understood your "aggregate" crack to be more a perception of understanding.

Based upon what we know at the moment,.... we can still theorize, and I take great delight in this as do others. Looking over a vast nearby river valley,... I KNOW it's there. And I can "theorize" where I should most likely look. Directing my friend to obtain a 5-gal sample of the stream bottom from behind a particular rock, I set to task at hand. And within 30min, my friend is SHOCKED to see that I have found an incredibly tiny speck of GOLD, smaller than the finest grain of heavy black sand that's abundant in the bottom my cereal bowl. None of which is carbon by the way, most being magnetite, iron oxides, hematite,... and that tiny speck of gold, a rather rare and uncommon element. While my friend is simply amazed,.... I stand in wonder, know that carbon is present in tens of thousands time more abundance, yet not so easy show him as was that gold (while an occasional garnet appears,...I have yet to see a diamond (carbon) in my bowl). And in the universe as a whole,... carbon is 5times more abundant than found here on earths crust.

C60 was created and discovered in the mid-80's not long ago,... how shocking for me to learn that it was likely naturally present several years before in the sooty smudge that obscured my facemask, as I was welding with carbon arcs in a shield of helium (and I much prefer TIG)!!!! They weren't looking for C60,... it jus happened incidentally. And "in theory", based of what we know,... that perfect two dimensional, 6C graphene molecule ALSO existed.

Now there's a big difference in "growing" a crystal,.... and forming a molecule. The perception here, is that IN THEORY,.... a molecule of C600000000000(?) or something similar could be created. But I kinda believe the more recent Q-Carbon will be more useful in building bicycles,... but that's jus a hunch, not a theory. lol
In the meantime,... I too, gaze at red giants in distant galaxies and wonder.

all good :)

i should add - "and conceivably doable with known methods"

still, i have a good feeling about growing carbon - it; organic, and i presume can be manipulated w/ magnetic fields - so 2 bites at the cherry there.

lithograpny & photo etching of one atom thick layers of graphene seems doable and exciting for circuits & maybe doping.

some things u kinda know are good science (like the manhattan project). The issue is if u have the methods or means.

We know certain bondings will take place. we dont know how to contrive them an atom/molecule at a time.

its like we need a 3d printer using atoms as droplets of "ink".
 
Carbon, graphite, graphene, and other, are NOT organic,.... but rather a non-metallic (or semi-metallic) element, common in mineral compounds and essential to organics and many synthetic polymerizations and infinitely more. They are working hard on stripping graphene, and other carbon allos from graphite, for a variety suitable and desired use. Current technologies are limiting us to flakes, buckys, nanotubes, etc., and we're still lacking a great many "secrets" necessary for exploitation in every desired manner. Many technologies are/were developed, designed, and directed at other uses and needs with varying degrees of results,... then directed and targeted in new ways to satisfy "our need to know". lol! A great many "OMG!" results have been expanded upon in such manner.

Carbon's use in super conductors has already been exploited, it CAN be doped, and is providing an extreme of excitement in the field of semi-conductors. And imagine the childish excitement of seeing a simple faulty sheet of graphene floating in air!!!! HOVERBOARDS!!!!

There's a HUGE amount of carbon, graphite, and graphenes in e-bikes today,.... by volume and mass, most is in the LiPo battery. But battery aside, nearly every component from the thread of your synthetic covered poly-foam seat, to the micron of tire tread left on the road surface behind you, has a significant amount of "graphene"!!! Other elements of copper, zinc, iron, chromium are not likely to be replaced by carbon and it's allotropes because of their desired or essential qualities. Simular to dry-ice, aspirin, heroin,.... "100% Graphite", is becoming a loose term to describe your fancy light-weight synthetic e-bike componants, although the former are actually brand names. Graphene "compounds" and "composites" will certainly see a broader use and application in bicycles,... revolutionary???? That depends,... WAS your chrome-moly frame "revolutionary"??? or IS your chrome-moly frame "revolutionary"??? No doubt that graphene brings new potential to everything from the thread, to that micron of tire tread,... and even to the wheel spokes of both, steel and "100% graphite"!
 
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