Alan B
100 GW
We always knew those helmets were evil...
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Ha ha great!! well at least they noticed it was electric! he he, I always worry what cops would think when they see the wires and the packs, pretty sure if i left my battery bag in the local shopping centre by mistake it would empty the place! and probably land me in prison they are I suppose justifiably strict on these things these days?
Still get editing MR G ha ha, dont suppose the cops wanted to be filmed either? I dress all in black and even wear the same shoes a police do over here and have been told by quite a few people I look like a cop on a police bike! dont know if thats a good thing or a bad thing to be honest!
Looking forward to seeing the vids Greg
" sir your chain sure looks rusty? do you ever peddle this thing" .."well officer ahhh
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grindz145
1 MW
GCinDC said:
Badass.... 8)
GCinDC
100 MW
Not really! Only towards the end the guy asked what kind of hub that was. No mention at all about the battery! This proves my point that if it's encased in Cordura, no one looks twice. Absolutely ubiquitous material. Deflects attention. And these are Bike Cops! LOL. I was standing over it, concealing the controller somewhat... Can you imagine if I had ammo boxes on there!knoxie said:
They LOOK evil. No question. But right now, I wear it and ski goggles for warmth as much as anything else. Gonna get a new bike/skateboard helmet when it warms up. Mainly for visibility.Alan B said:
Hyena
10 GW
Heh nice. Atleast you got the audio. If they hauled you off it would have made great footage
You should have asked if they wanted to race for pink slips
I'll endevour to keep the troops entertained while you're on a video hiatus
You should have asked if they wanted to race for pink slips
I'll endevour to keep the troops entertained while you're on a video hiatus
please hyena!! Greg has got some stiff competition here!! both of ya spin out some stonking videos though, I have always been a huge fan of ebike videos, its what got me in to all this in the first place!!
I was thinking about popping a small set of batts in to my rucksack along with the controller and having 1 cable and 1 connector that hooked up the battery the controller and the throttle, we have loads of off cuts of cable at work that would be perfect, I can use a harting connector 1 multipole connector for all connections, that would be neat, just unplug off the bike and the only thing you leave on the bike is the motor and the throttle.
Keeps all the weight off the back of the bike too, i aint scared of any potential lipo issues, been carrying them around on my back for years makes it all super stealthy as well, stealth is good 8) what you got in your back pack sir?? do you mind if I take a look?? certainly officer 
Just an idea?
both of ya spin out some stonking videos though, I have always been a huge fan of ebike videos, its what got me in to all this in the first place!!I was thinking about popping a small set of batts in to my rucksack along with the controller and having 1 cable and 1 connector that hooked up the battery the controller and the throttle, we have loads of off cuts of cable at work that would be perfect, I can use a harting connector 1 multipole connector for all connections, that would be neat, just unplug off the bike and the only thing you leave on the bike is the motor and the throttle.
Keeps all the weight off the back of the bike too, i aint scared of any potential lipo issues, been carrying them around on my back for years
makes it all super stealthy as well, stealth is good 8) what you got in your back pack sir?? do you mind if I take a look?? certainly officer Just an idea?
Hyena
10 GW
I made something similar for someone a while ago as they wanted to keep the bike as low key as possible and remove the battery and controller when not in use. I had a 5 pin anderson plug for the power and phase wires and a serial/DB9 plug for the hall wires and throttle and brake. With a 12S2P lipo pack it all fitted neatly on a QR seatpost rack and was removed in seconds.knoxie said:
back packs are good if you have other stuff to carry but when you're travelling light you can't beat my method for inconspicuous lipo transport http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17335&p=253462 :lol:i aint scared of any potential lipo issues, been carrying them around on my back for years
Hyena, loved the battery stash! ha ha brilliant!!
Yes I have used back packs in the past with great effect, I am only thinking of 2 x 6S packs so the weight isnt an issue in a back pack, the controller will almost weigh as much, I just want a nice simple option for one of my bikes.
Lots of folks worry about carrying the packs on their bodies, I am not worried however I may pop them in a lipo sack as they are only small!
Yes I have used back packs in the past with great effect, I am only thinking of 2 x 6S packs so the weight isnt an issue in a back pack, the controller will almost weigh as much, I just want a nice simple option for one of my bikes.
Lots of folks worry about carrying the packs on their bodies, I am not worried however I may pop them in a lipo sack as they are only small!
GCinDC
100 MW
Knox, did you see my post using the lumbar pack?
ahh yes I did buddy, thats also a good option, not so sure the controller would fit in there and its all a little bit too near the crown jewels :lol: I will post up what i do, it should be neat and small! I have all the bits, just need the motor, going to get a 9C
GCinDC
100 MW
Then for balance, go w/ a front and rear 9C's.knoxie said:
Sounds like an interesting connector. Gotta look that up. For cranes?
Ok, here's the vid of my stop on the hill. A buddy at work, after I told him about it, was furious. Said they had no right to stop me, let alone see ID. I offered it all up, knowing any protest would delay the stop, and gather more attention, which I mainly wanted avoid of the bike. I straddled it the whole time concealing the messy bits, and the wires that got them so excited near the Light Colored House. I've cut out pauses, personal info I gave, and some MTB chit chat. The stop was probably about 15 min.
[youtube]6RTSQDUWaYE[/youtube]
They've got a tough job, I understand. And the fact that I actually was heading to the skatepark made for plausible story, so i didn't have to discuss the bike's top speed. Not sure if you can hear me mention "500 Watts" (2:00). I discretely switched to Speed 1 too, just in case. :wink: Good thing I wasn't speeding. As you can see tho, they're oblivious to the electric stuff.. :lol:
Ha Ha
Funny how we were only just talking about it on the podcast and then you get stopped? they said they had calls about you? I wonder why! ha ha, I am sure you were sticking to the speed limits? anyway would have been funny to see them try and stop you on their bikes.
They have a job to do I suppose, its got to suck enough being a bike cop as it is, you do all the training expecting to get fast cars, a trunk full of guns and the police computer on the dash and you get a pushbike? & pissing cold DC rain.. you gotta feel sorry for them, how do they make their siren? by crying? ha ha.
We also have bike cops over here, there have been e-bike cops before however they are tied to the same laws as everyone else, a 30mph ebike would make for a great 1st on the scene response vehicle in most cities however I would suspect a motorbike is the best option as they tend to ride them anywhere to get to the scene.
Thanks for posting Greg, was really fun listening to them, I am amazed they spotted the camera? and didn't think to ask you whether it was on or not? I suppose you are lucky as if they had suspected you were up to no good they may have taken the camera off you? I know over here if you start recording around shopping centres or places where folks don't normally film or take photos you will get your collar felt very quickly.
Funny how we were only just talking about it on the podcast and then you get stopped? they said they had calls about you? I wonder why! ha ha, I am sure you were sticking to the speed limits? anyway would have been funny to see them try and stop you on their bikes.
They have a job to do I suppose, its got to suck enough being a bike cop as it is, you do all the training expecting to get fast cars, a trunk full of guns and the police computer on the dash and you get a pushbike? & pissing cold DC rain.. you gotta feel sorry for them, how do they make their siren? by crying? ha ha.
We also have bike cops over here, there have been e-bike cops before however they are tied to the same laws as everyone else, a 30mph ebike would make for a great 1st on the scene response vehicle in most cities however I would suspect a motorbike is the best option as they tend to ride them anywhere to get to the scene.
Thanks for posting Greg, was really fun listening to them, I am amazed they spotted the camera? and didn't think to ask you whether it was on or not? I suppose you are lucky as if they had suspected you were up to no good they may have taken the camera off you? I know over here if you start recording around shopping centres or places where folks don't normally film or take photos you will get your collar felt very quickly.
Hyena
10 GW
haha cool. When the other cop said he saw one do 30 mph you should have said "wow gee that's fast!" haha
I remember talking to a guy in a bike shop once about ebikes. I quickly glanced over his little 200w offerings to see if he had anything decent. He got talking about the power of the motors and I asked if he had anything more powerful. He said no but he could possibly get in a high powered bike if I had the cash (4 grand). I was curious what such a bike would be so asked more about it and he excitedly told me but in a hushed tone so no one else in the shop could hear - it had a whopping 500w of power but it was strictly for offroad use and how some irresponsible people had been riding them on the road at speeds of up to 40km/hr! (25mph) I said "wow, 500w and 40km/hr!" and he went on to say how high powered and dangerous they were. I don't know how I managed to hold my tongue :lol:
I haven't been stopped by the cops yet but alot of cars have stopped at lights and asked about my helmet, camera and armor I wear. I say the gear is for safety and that I'd been knocked over by a car before (which I technically have) and joke that the camera is to catch the number plate of the next guy that tries to kill me. Most people are cool with it, and then I offer them to race :lol:
I can see their point though, it's fair enough that they'd stop someone looking like you in a place like that. Actually they'd be a bit negligent if they didn't - Imagine if you were an evil doer on an ebike, you could very quickly get past road blocks and cordoned off areas and do some serious damage to key targets. I guess they wouldn't need the helmet though... haha
Oops, I hope I haven't given them any ideas. :lol:
I remember talking to a guy in a bike shop once about ebikes. I quickly glanced over his little 200w offerings to see if he had anything decent. He got talking about the power of the motors and I asked if he had anything more powerful. He said no but he could possibly get in a high powered bike if I had the cash (4 grand). I was curious what such a bike would be so asked more about it and he excitedly told me but in a hushed tone so no one else in the shop could hear - it had a whopping 500w of power but it was strictly for offroad use and how some irresponsible people had been riding them on the road at speeds of up to 40km/hr! (25mph) I said "wow, 500w and 40km/hr!" and he went on to say how high powered and dangerous they were. I don't know how I managed to hold my tongue :lol:
I haven't been stopped by the cops yet but alot of cars have stopped at lights and asked about my helmet, camera and armor I wear. I say the gear is for safety and that I'd been knocked over by a car before (which I technically have) and joke that the camera is to catch the number plate of the next guy that tries to kill me. Most people are cool with it, and then I offer them to race :lol:
I can see their point though, it's fair enough that they'd stop someone looking like you in a place like that. Actually they'd be a bit negligent if they didn't - Imagine if you were an evil doer on an ebike, you could very quickly get past road blocks and cordoned off areas and do some serious damage to key targets. I guess they wouldn't need the helmet though... haha
Oops, I hope I haven't given them any ideas. :lol:
GCinDC
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yeah, that woulda been funny, except how it would have ended, me prone out somewhere, or worse.knoxie said:
the place was crawling! cops, secret service everywhere. the line he said about getting all these calls about me is interesting, considering i'd only gone a couple blocks! all of them on in touch by radio, commenting on 'the cyclist' :lol: :
itchynackers
100 kW
A suspicious guy with a camera, noooooo! I wonder why they don't stop people with cell phones with video capability. I suppose sometimes they even aim them at important monuments! Jail I say.
I meant funny in them trying to catch you on their bikes not funny as in shooting you in the back...you have to be so careful though, just after the 77 bombing on the tube train here in the UK a poor Brazilian fella who had overstayed on his visa ran from the cops in the tube station, the cops boarded the train and he was shot dead, it was just horrible.
I dont mind being stopped by the cops as they are only doing their job, these cops seemed pretty cool to be honest you can of course sometimes be unlucky and get a bad one in which case nothing will get you off the hook :lol: I do think its pretty funny though that of all the times you get pulled its not when you are speeding at 40mph through DC but when you are kind of meandering along
not funny as in shooting you in the back...you have to be so careful though, just after the 77 bombing on the tube train here in the UK a poor Brazilian fella who had overstayed on his visa ran from the cops in the tube station, the cops boarded the train and he was shot dead, it was just horrible.I dont mind being stopped by the cops as they are only doing their job, these cops seemed pretty cool to be honest you can of course sometimes be unlucky and get a bad one in which case nothing will get you off the hook :lol: I do think its pretty funny though that of all the times you get pulled its not when you are speeding at 40mph through DC but when you are kind of meandering along
GCinDC said:
ambroseliao
100 kW
Here's an example of cops going wild over something seemingly very minor. It's a very long story and it doesn't get better, the more you read...
http://www.longislandlawyerblog.com/mother-of-3-arrested-for-taking-pictures-of-tourist-attraction-at-airport
Ambrose
http://www.longislandlawyerblog.com/mother-of-3-arrested-for-taking-pictures-of-tourist-attraction-at-airport
Ambrose
Greg-
Oh wow, Since I am deaf cant hear the talking from youtube none have english subtitles, Did the police gave you ticket and if so what violation?
If it really gave you a ticket, Sound like they broke the law because where is evidence, I don't see you speeding that area where the police stopped you. Show your GoPro vids to the judge. You may have chance dismiss your violation ticket.
Probably, They build a case evidence against you by studied you everyday and weighted finally time to stop you for being reckelss or speeding? Who knows *finger crossed* for you to win in court since you have the video recorded in that area happen.
Oh wow, Since I am deaf cant hear the talking from youtube none have english subtitles, Did the police gave you ticket and if so what violation?
If it really gave you a ticket, Sound like they broke the law because where is evidence, I don't see you speeding that area where the police stopped you. Show your GoPro vids to the judge. You may have chance dismiss your violation ticket.
Probably, They build a case evidence against you by studied you everyday and weighted finally time to stop you for being reckelss or speeding? Who knows *finger crossed* for you to win in court since you have the video recorded in that area happen.
GCinDC
100 MW
Hey chroot, I was just riding around Capitol Hill and was stopped because I looked suspcious. The guy first asked why I was wearing that helmet, and guessed for tricks? I said yeah, not really wanting to elaborate. I offered him my badge and gave him my ID & SSN when he asked, just because I knew it would speed it up. Then a plainclothes intel guy showed up. Not captured, I asked what attracted their attention. He said "pretty much everything: your helmet, the camera, dressed in all black, weaving around..." They also said there were 'important' people around that day, so they were being extra careful. At that time, all the senators, congressmen walk around getting lunch, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the dudes in the suits was someone... Bottom line, I did nothing wrong, got no ticket or no warning, just a delay when they checked me out...chroot said:
ambroseliao said:
Yeah sure is a long story Ambrose...shocking though if its true? and I have no reason to think it isn't, part of the problem is the law enforcement agencies all over the world are now told they must not ethnically profile folks and that all people under certain circumstances must be treated as potential terrorists, this has lead to many many cases of little old ladies being strip searched and humiliated at airports etc, the crazy thing is whilst they are doing this somebody who fits the profile is smiling sat on an aeroplane/bus/tube train with ticking luggage.
We have a very Royal wedding in London in a month or so, I dread to think what the security is going to be like then? not a good day to go ebiking Dressed like our friend Hyena! ha ha.
Ah gotcha, understood well I glad you didn't get any violation ticket and they still have no rights stop you even they suspicious because of full face helmet, black color, video camera, and etc. Come on, You know what i mean.
Do they aware that you are running electric motor? If so, then full face helmet make sense for the safety and different story non motorized bicycle doesn't need full face helmet.
Anyways screw secret police
Do they aware that you are running electric motor? If so, then full face helmet make sense for the safety and different story non motorized bicycle doesn't need full face helmet.
Anyways screw secret police
itchynackers
100 kW
Would be interesting for you to wear a "SUSPICIOUS PERSON" sign attached to your back. I bet you wouldn't get stopped.
Hyena
10 GW
I heard just after the cops pulled you over they also hassled this guy who was similarly dressed suspiciously.
:lol:
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AussieJester
1 TW
knoxie said:I meant funny in them trying to catch you on their bikes
It could be dangerous them not being able to catch you on their bike, picture this, your moving along just a lil quicker than they can go, they are shouting at you to stop but you happen to have you ipod on and bopping to tunes oblivious to the cops on bicycles trying to run you down, they site the batteries (say lipo) hanging among a mass of wires on the bike, think its a bomb next thing you know your getting gunned down :-|
As you said cops have a job to do and Jay commented they probably would of not been doing their job correctly if they didnt stop you seeing their 'intelligence and secret service' had spotted you and radioed in, i really dont see the big deal people have with the police doing their job, so they pulled you aside and questioned you so what how long it take out of your day 2-3 minutes? .... You seedy character you LoL..Seriously though you did exactly the right thing, polite and obliging to the police is the only way to go, i learned the hard way being a abusive and arrogant don't get you very far at all :-S ... hehehe Next time try this when you seez them in pursuit ...speed up and start screaming Allah akbar, see how far you can get before being bought down
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grindz145
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HAH! Made my Friday. I love when they all start asking what kind of hub is that on there? It had to be exciting for bike cops, It would make my day if I was a bike cop for sure 8)
It is kind of disturbing that they have to treat you like a criminal for no reason. I can imagine in that area it is a pretty when it comes to security though.
It is kind of disturbing that they have to treat you like a criminal for no reason. I can imagine in that area it is a pretty when it comes to security though.
