New scooter looking for info

[wolf421]

I just bought a Phantomgogo R1 sit down scooter. I'm already looking to mod it in some ways. A controller, the motor, adding a tail light and turn signals. Even maybe a bigger battery or just another one.
But the one thing I'm having a real hard time finding is the wiring diagram. Which I need to add the lights etc.
The makers website is very uninformative and unhelpful.
I know from what I can tell is that the Urbanmax scooter (on Amazon) is a clone or made by the same company and just sold under a different name. But alas thier website is just as unhelpful also.

Can anyone point me in the right direction for the wiring diagram?

 

[neptronix]

I'd honestly replace all the electronics and rewire what you need to.

And make sure when you buy those electronics, they're compatible and have wiring diagrams, otherwise you're in the same situation with parts that aren't supported at all by a vendor.

 

[amberwolf]

There almost certainly isn't a wiring diagram available (almost nothing has one). You'll probably have to trace out all the wires inside each of the cables and make a complete diagram.

If you then post that here, others that come looking will be able to find it. (pretty much nobody that makes their own wiring diagrams ever posts them, which is another reason you don't find many of them).

 

[E-HP]

I just bought a Phantomgogo R1 sit down scooter. I'm already looking to mod it in some ways. A controller, the motor, adding a tail light and turn signals. Even maybe a bigger battery or just another one.
But the one thing I'm having a real hard time finding is the wiring diagram. Which I need to add the lights etc.
The makers website is very uninformative and unhelpful.
I know from what I can tell is that the Urbanmax scooter (on Amazon) is a clone or made by the same company and just sold under a different name. But alas thier website is just as unhelpful also.

Can anyone point me in the right direction for the wiring diagram?

Is there anything you like about it? Why did you buy something that doesn’t fundamentally meet your needs? Can you return or sell the hunk of junk.

 

[chuyskywalker]

Why did you buy something that doesn’t fundamentally meet your needs?

Because it's $350.

A controller, the motor, adding a tail light and turn signals. Even maybe a bigger battery or just another one.

Just a brief look at that scooter and I can tell you it's not a good candidate for power/speed/torque upgrades -- not safely anyway. These cheap scooters are, well, cheap for a reason. Doubling the speed, adding more torque, etc is very much NOT what they are designed and (maybe??) tested for.

If it's useful and gets you around as you need; the smaller mods and adding another battery in parallel to increase range is probably the all you'd really want to do something like this. I'm speaking from experience here as I've upgraded scooters like this in the past and...boy, it's sketchy as hell.

Narrow handle bars, small tires, and zero suspension put this squarely in the 15-20mph zone.

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lol, on the website for these they tout the motor power...with a picture of the front, non-motorized wheel. A+

 

[neptronix]

Complete agreement with that.

 

[wolf421]

The main reason I was hoping to find a wiring diagram was to add a tail light and turn signals and power them off the battery. Especially at night being I work the evening shift at my job and it's full on night when I get off.

As far as the controller/motor.. Not really planning on an upgrade per se.
Looking for replacement parts somewhere other than Phantom's website.. The controller is and has been listed as out of stock for some time now.
And I'm not to sure about the motor... It seems to have a constant drag on it, like if it has regenerative breaking. But I've found nothing in the owners manual nor on the website that says the scooter has that feature. (and yes I've adjusted the breaks so they don't drag on the rotors) Thus the my reason for looking at a different hub motor for it.

As far as a battery goes, I've already found a few that are aftermarket replacements for the one it came with (36v 3Amp 7.65AH 275.4Wh) I'm looking to add one of them in parallel with the original to increase the range. (planning to run Uber eats on my days off for extra cash)

I bought the scooter from a local reseller and honestly after having it for over a month now I'm starting to wonder if the reseller is one of those that buy up factory refurbished scooters by the pallet. To sell as if they are "new" to the unsuspecting buyer..

But overall my thoughts on the scooter is it gets me to work and back and is good for what it is out of the box. I'm just looking to make a few changes to make it my own in away. Sure it's not some hyper scooter or even a mid-range one for the $300 cash I paid for it.

And yes, I've read every response here and I'm grateful for all the comments and thought's about my "poor mans scooter".
Thanks.

 

[chuyskywalker]

The main reason I was hoping to find a wiring diagram was to add a tail light and turn signals and power them off the battery. Especially at night being I work the evening shift at my job and it's full on night when I get off.

I can point you in the, likely, right direction -- you don't need the wiring diagram. If a scooter system doesn't come with lights & signals, and often even when they do, it's not part of the controller anyway.

To add your own lights, your best bet is to just tap the battery lines (or buy a premade splitter if the battery connections are something common like XT60), pull power into a DCDC step down (all over amazon) that gets the voltage to 12v and can supply enough amps to cover your needs, and then wire up pretty much any light/blinker/brake lights you want.

If you want an active brake light (gets brighter when you pull the brakes) that can get a bit more involved. There are multiple ways to do it, but kinda depends on the situation. Easy bet it to just start with the constant on types.

(36v 3Amp 7.65AH 275.4Wh) I'm looking to add one of them in parallel with the original to increase the range.

You should have no trouble doing that; look up battery blenders. You could likely directly wire the two batteries together, but requires being more careful about having voltages matched to prevent "bad stuff"; and since this bike likely doesn't do regen (nothing I could find anyway), it's probably fine. If the motor is a geared hub motor, 100% it's not doing regen. I couldn't tell if it's geared or direct drive, though, from any reviews/literature/etc.

Sure it's not some hyper scooter or even a mid-range one for the $300 cash I paid for it.

It's a great way to start getting into PEV (personal electric vehicles) and I'm sure everybody here loves more people being on these, we're just making sure to keep you on them by helping to set realistic expectations of how far that frame will take ya