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VOTOL EM 150SP BE AWARE!

Graffity2

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Hello,
I believe my votol contoller is faulty and could kill someone on the road. Today it almost happened.

I got a qs138 5kw mid drive with votol em150sp. I've bought motor and controller as a kit on aliexpress and it was preconfigured to work together and worked not bad on a default settings.

The first problem is that it has a faulty flash memory as I think, after finding some few similar messages here on the forum.
It connects to PC well, it reads all the parameters, I can see realtime RPM or voltage, etc, but if I try to save any params, it gives me a window "write to succesfull",
but actually no parameters are being written, after turning ignition off/on and loading params, I see the old data. After trying to save anything new, I got a "controller failure" on the display page (see pic).

I've tried different drivers, program versions and even another PC - and I've got the same result all time.

I've tried to contact Siaecosys support by different emails but no success.

Anyway, the riding was not so bad, I had a default 120amps in sports mode and was riding in this mode for all of the time. For some reason, controller ignored 30s time to set sport mode off.

But today I wrecked in a back of a car and had to cover expencive damage to it. I was just in a traffic jam behind the car, I've released my front brake and gently turned the throttle, but it suddenly gave me 100% acceleration, I've released throttle and pressed front brake strongly in just a moment - but motor was not stopping and it slided me with front brake locked with increasing speed to back of the car! I was too close and no space left or right to avoid the accident. Hopefully it happened to the car, not people standing near the bike!

Now I love gasoline bikes for their engines that could be easily stopped if you don't let them spin. The electric motor will push you to the hell if something goes wrong!

I have dissasembled and checked throttle - and all seems to be fine - 0.83v idle, encreasing to 4.7v at the end. 5.2v from the controller goes to the throttle.
All wires are good and have no damage. I use this throttle: https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005004407631487.html
I think this is a controlle failure, because I got this at the moment of starting my movement. After accident I was able to go back home and all was working as usual.
But when I hit the car and bike has fall, it was still spinning till the moment I've turned ignition off.

I appreciate any help or information on this 2 problems! Maybe someone has experienced something like this?
 

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Shit man, sounds like it lacks some safety features in the electronics. That should never happen, sorry for your misfortune.

I don't know anything about Votol, so can't help you there.

TBH i would never use a controller that went WOT on me again. The only way, is if i have a killswitch fro that controller. A very old phaserunner did this to me when running a motor with faulty halls, and it would also accelerate on it's own. The throttle was totally fine AFAIK.

Here's my kill switch, it's designed to be pulled out by a finger in an emergency to cut voltage to the controller.

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Thanks for sharing! I think I need to switch to another controller - even another same votol, but with working memory, I would be able to use regen - it cuts throttle immediately when you press brake. I wasn't able to use it because of high default level and not being able to change it.
 
After you get the succesful message, you have to hit the CLOSE button and,...well I always hit the X, top right, as well.
I've tried this of course. After pressing "Param write" and getting succesful message, I instantly get error on display page. So no matter what I do - close connection or just close the program.
 
I've tried this of course. After pressing "Param write" and getting succesful message, I instantly get error on display page. So no matter what I do - close connection or just close the program.
You have to do a busbar fix. Did you get this done?
 
I found settings do not save if you have the "can enable" box checked, just uncheck the "can enable" box and manually set baudrate to 11xxxx and the write parameters should work.
 
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