Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

[ridethelightning]

i think there is a very small surface mount resistor that might have blown from a short on the 5v/gnd on the hall wires praps.
i think crea2k had that issue and solved it with quick fix then sorted it properly later..

 

[brumbrum]

Apologies for being a lemon over this, but as i have never needed a precharge bridge before, Should i just wire it as illustrated here...

 

[ozman]

Apologies for being a lemon over this, but as i have never needed a precharge bridge before, Should i just wire it as illustrated here...

That's how I've done it in the past.

Current will always take the path of least resistance just plug the wire with the resistor on it in before you plug the wire without.

1. Plug in negative wire
2. Plug in resistor wire
3. Plug in main positive.

Now im using the C63 breakers I'm not using precharge.

No big cracking spark that tends to destroy bullets anymore.

But the caps are probably copping a hiding so far so good though.

 

[brumbrum]

Thanks for help. Yep, all makes sense.

 

[Artur]

Hey Guys, if you use C63 that I send for free with every controller you dont need to worry about! All controllers are checked.

About the problem with reflashing, I have it to after I update the software on my old max, and one of my bike with new Max has it right out the box. But since I didnt have this problem before updating - I am sure this is temporary software problem that happens 1 of 10 times I turn on my bike... Maby I shout downgreade software.

About packages- if something will be damaged due to bad packing - I will cover it, so dont worry about it guys

Just use C63 switch we provide and ride safe

p.s. about Oleg from adaptto, we comunicate every working day, so I can not imagine him to ignore messages from somebody. Maby they did go to spam?
the only problem I had with controller with over 30 controllers instaled by myself - some software mistakes. other errors were caused by human factor :lol:

 

[brumbrum]

Thanks Artur, that's reassuring.

Also, are you saying that no precharge curcuit/resistor is needed if I use JUST the C63a you provided?

I am a bit confused :?

 

[steveo]

@Arthur

I have now broken the 2nd display mount where the 4 screws attach..

i have literally barely tightened the display on the handlebars this time and i already broke my first one, and this time i also used the longer screws..

Here is the kicker ( I HAVE NOT EVEN RODE MY BIKE YET, THIS IS ONLY WITH SETTING UP BIKE ON MY STAND)

the plastic on the displays is very brittle, i have used many cycle analyst on my bikes.. and never broke a mount once..

I don't even want to bother with a replacement as it seems that Adaptto is just ignoring this problem, and i'm 100% i'm not the only person with broken clips or broken mounting holes around the rear of the display.

I'm thinking to use a cycle analyst mount modified to work on the adaptto display

its sad to save a couple $$.. they used such a crappy plastic.. its a shame with you need to spend over 1k to get a full max e kit.. only to show the quality is really poor on the display case!

-steveo

 

[brumbrum]

I took this instruction from the manual......
Set the current limit profiles using the menu <POWER MODE PROFILES> 3.2 (found in the main menu):
 Ib A - battery current limit in amps
 Ip A - phase current limit in amps
 Ipr A - regenerative braking phase current limit in amps

How do i determine what value to put into 'Ipr A' regen phase current?

Thanks.

 

[BCTECH]

does anyone know the pin assignment of the display connector.
can anyone label which cable goes to 1-4 pin?

 

[Jonboy]

@ brum.. Dont put in more than youre happy to charge with @ your 30amp pack 1c will be fine. The regen value in the power setup adjust to how like it when you ride

 

[Greenlight]

Hey Guys, if you use C63 that I send for free with every controller you dont need to worry about! All controllers are checked.

About the problem with reflashing, I have it to after I update the software on my old max, and one of my bike with new Max has it right out the box. But since I didnt have this problem before updating - I am sure this is temporary software problem that happens 1 of 10 times I turn on my bike... Maby I shout downgreade software.

About packages- if something will be damaged due to bad packing - I will cover it, so dont worry about it guys

Just use C63 switch we provide and ride safe

p.s. about Oleg from adaptto, we comunicate every working day, so I can not imagine him to ignore messages from somebody. Maby they did go to spam?
the only problem I had with controller with over 30 controllers instaled by myself - some software mistakes. other errors were caused by human factor :lol:

Arthur; Can I send this brand new 14 kW max e controller back to you for a brand new replacement? Its max output is 6.7amps in any mode, Tried auto detect many times. Firmware upgrade many times and finally swapped it to to another perfectly working bike with an adaptto with the same results.

 

[rborger73]

Hey Guys,

Just came across the same issue. I have a Stealth Bomber in for repair at MiCycles - Adelaide Electric Bikes.

I have worked on this beast before and fitted an Adaptto Controller with a Cromotor.
After repairs and brake upgrade, I fired it up and got the 'Halls!' at the top of the display.
Hall supply voltage from the controller - 2.8V
Ran a jumper lead from the USB and voila! back to normal.

Is this a relatively easy fix inside the controller.
Is there anyone in Australia repairing these otherwise fantastic controllers?

Any help will be greatly appreciated,
Cheers
MiCycles

Had the main motor cable get yanked out when testing from the din cable and had the !halls! come up and stay on now. Going to try and get the wiring all double checked and resolder the pins today and hoping it goes away.

I did check and unplugged and I'm getting 4.51v on the red wire... Anyone want to take a guess if it is the resistor blown or not? Haven't wired the 5v feed off the usb yet to test out my theory.. Hoping I don't have to once I get everything wired and double checked. I get the !halls error with everything unplugged, but thought I got that on first test of the controller before I wired the motor in originally. Blah had everything just about done electronics wise... grr. Wish more people would respond the the !Halls error questions. Read back through most of them. Still more to be explained with it.

 

[brumbrum]

does anyone know the pin assignment of the display connector.
can anyone label which cable goes to 1-4 pin?

The display connector has four wires..
Brown
Blue
White
Black

If you look on the pin side of the connector each pin is numbered 1,2,3,4

Brown to 1
Blue to 2
White to 4
Black to 3

I am not sure why you have shown a cable with 5 wires and those colours, but the above combinations are what mine are. I know as i just resoldered them.

I hope that helps

 

[Artur]

@ brum.. Dont put in more than youre happy to charge with @ your 30amp pack 1c will be fine. The regen value in the power setup adjust to how like it when you ride

i am not sure you are right.

I took this instruction from the manual......
Set the current limit profiles using the menu <POWER MODE PROFILES> 3.2 (found in the main menu):
 Ib A - battery current limit in amps
 Ip A - phase current limit in amps
 Ipr A - regenerative braking phase current limit in amps

How do i determine what value to put into 'Ipr A' regen phase current?

Thanks.

This correspond to how stron regenerative braking is. And parameter of fow much ams you push to your battery during regenerative braking is in regen menu. I set Ipr A to 100amps and battery regen current to 20amps.

does anyone know the pin assignment of the display connector.
can anyone label which cable goes to 1-4 pin?

ask Oleg in adaptto. I had this wiring diagram, but can find it now. Oleg will give it to you for sure.

@Arthur

I have now broken the 2nd display mount where the 4 screws attach..

i have literally barely tightened the display on the handlebars this time and i already broke my first one, and this time i also used the longer screws..

Here is the kicker ( I HAVE NOT EVEN RODE MY BIKE YET, THIS IS ONLY WITH SETTING UP BIKE ON MY STAND)

the plastic on the displays is very brittle, i have used many cycle analyst on my bikes.. and never broke a mount once..

I don't even want to bother with a replacement as it seems that Adaptto is just ignoring this problem, and i'm 100% i'm not the only person with broken clips or broken mounting holes around the rear of the display.

I'm thinking to use a cycle analyst mount modified to work on the adaptto display

its sad to save a couple $$.. they used such a crappy plastic.. its a shame with you need to spend over 1k to get a full max e kit.. only to show the quality is really poor on the display case!

-steveo

to be honest I am not happy with this plastic too, I would preffer metal for more durability. I will think about the solution of this problem and maby we will make our own holder for display soon, like we did for bms case.

Thanks Artur, that's reassuring.

Also, are you saying that no precharge curcuit/resistor is needed if I use JUST the C63a you provided?

I am a bit confused :?

Absolutely. I am using my bike for more then a year. 99% times I use on/off of the controller, but also c63 when I transport the bike or leave it for a longer period.

 

[ccmdr]

rborger73 - !Halls! is an easy quick check. Simply rotate the wheel very slowly in the 'debug' page. It should count H1-H6 and alos there is a little indicator with 111 or 101 or 011 etc... that changes are you rotate the wheel. That'll confirm a hall is down.

To check which hall is down it's just as simple. With controller powered up and the rear of the hall connector removed (try not to open the controller side they've nicely potted the pins with hot glue) conect one side of your multimeter to black (negative) and as you rotate the rear wheel each hall wire (red, yellow...) with the other side of the multimeter you should get around the same voltage as red-black. Simples .

Pretty sure you have to short a hall with a phase to get the resistor to blow, or if your hall wiring comes loose shorts with a phase...

 

[BCTECH]

does anyone know the pin assignment of the display connector.
can anyone label which cable goes to 1-4 pin?

The display connector has four wires..
Brown
Blue
White
Black

If you look on the pin side of the connector each pin is numbered 1,2,3,4

Brown to 1
Blue to 2
White to 4
Black to 3

I am not sure why you have shown a cable with 5 wires and those colours, but the above combinations are what mine are. I know as i just resoldered them.

I hope that helps

thanks

that;s the cable from the display side, I have 6 wires and don't know y

as you can see i have no black

I can not find any information on manual or online
is there any way to measure and find out ?

 

[atomek1000]

Hey guys, i bought adaptto and i am missing one piece for connecting throttle cable. I can't find matching connector. Anybody know what type is it?

 

[brumbrum]

does anyone know the pin assignment of the display connector.
can anyone label which cable goes to 1-4 pin?

The display connector has four wires..
Brown
Blue
White
Black

If you look on the pin side of the connector each pin is numbered 1,2,3,4

Brown to 1
Blue to 2
White to 4
Black to 3

I am not sure why you have shown a cable with 5 wires and those colours, but the above combinations are what mine are. I know as i just resoldered them.

I hope that helps

thanks

that;s the cable from the display side, I have 6 wires and don't know y

as you can see i have no black

I can not find any information on manual or online
is there any way to measure and find out ?

Arh, ok, i have no idea of the controller side colours.

 

[BCTECH]

does anyone know the pin assignment of the display connector.
can anyone label which cable goes to 1-4 pin?

The display connector has four wires..
Brown
Blue
White
Black

If you look on the pin side of the connector each pin is numbered 1,2,3,4

Brown to 1
Blue to 2
White to 4
Black to 3

I am not sure why you have shown a cable with 5 wires and those colours, but the above combinations are what mine are. I know as i just resoldered them.

I hope that helps

thanks

that;s the cable from the display side, I have 6 wires and don't know y

as you can see i have no black

I can not find any information on manual or online
is there any way to measure and find out ?[/quote]

Arh, ok, i have no idea of the controller side colours.[/quote]

the display side is what I need, because the wires broke inside the connector and I have to re join them.
the controller side is totally fine

 

[brumbrum]

The display side of mine has the four wires as stated above. That is weird that you have more than four wires. :?

 

[brumbrum]

@ brum.. Dont put in more than youre happy to charge with @ your 30amp pack 1c will be fine. The regen value in the power setup adjust to how like it when you ride

Cheers buddy, understood. So the value is for 'strength' of regen braking.

And no worries about the 1C setting, i get that.
8)

 

[steveo]

@Artur

After going ahead and cutting/breaking of the bottom mounts off my adaptto displays to replace them with stronger 3d printed parts. I can say with certainty that the adaptto display casing that i received have bad plastic castings... some parts of the plastic are casted poorly, making it very brittle. I'm not sure how the manufacture does this, but a friend of mine that is more familiar with working plastic has advised me that they may of got air into the molds.

i will post a video here shortly, and add some photos of what i needed to do to fix my display mount.

-steveo

 

[atomek1000]

Hey guys, i bought adaptto and i am missing one piece for connecting throttle cable. I can't find matching connector. Anybody know what type is it?

Anybody have an answer what connector is this?

 

[Allex]

Should be M8
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/m8-cable-4-pin-waterproof-4pin_1902070544.html

 

[Altair]

The Adaptto kit comes with both sides of the connector, are you sure you checked all the items in the box?

Sorry I cannot identify this connector, but you could easily substitute it with any 4-pin connector you have, or that you can get at an electronics store.
Just cut the wire.
Alternatively, you can just solder the wires together without a connector.