Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

[ridethelightning]

stated in the manual, it recommends not using/playing with throttle or ebrake while charging.

my friend has ridden his bike while still in charge mode(diddnt know how to exit yet), and now nitices occasinal !THR! warning and momentary loss of power.

has anyone come acrosss this?

would riding in charge mode possible dammage anything?

 

[madin88]

sounds like adaptto needs to change firmware so that throttle does not work when in charge mode.

 

[ridethelightning]

oddly with the older firmware that i have the throttle and brake dont work while charging and the chargemode auto stops when you stop the psu..

 

[Larseren]

Hi,
Does any of you know what the setting in charge menu 2/2 "ChgSensor inv yes" means?
I have had failures to the controller during charging earlier and I am really scared to blow it again.
All references I can find on this says it is reserved for future use/OEM, the reason I ask is because after a system reset this defaults to YES
and I am about to charge and would like to know what you have set yours to. Right now I am using a standard Chinese 50v 5A charger to charge.
System is 20s3p HobbyKing Lipo, MiniE and Mxus 3000 v1.

Lars

 

[Jackrabbit]

I'm using a Domino throttle which works well but there is probably almost a quarter turn before anything happens. I've tried setting the throttle limits to minimum and also tried different speeds etc in the linear setup. Also in the manual it says you need to open the throttle several times to set up the linear function but mine just sets a graphic display and asks you if you want to save or retry. Am I doing something wrong or missing something?

 

[lennovich]

Anyone an idea how it come that my regen does not work anymore after the update for the PAS. If i brake the motor shuts down but doesnt regen. So the connection is fine. In my settings the regen mode stands on. Battery also not fully charged. I searched a couple hours in the settings but nothing helps...before it was all fine...i have a feeling that the software update for the pas is not that good...will ask Oleg what he thinks.

 

[bigbore]

Hi, does anyone know if it´s possible to restrict the output on the controller to 250w with a switch?

With a switch i think no. But you have 3 power profiles (ECO, NORMAL and BOOST) and you can program in each one the max speed, max batt amps, max phase amps and acceleration.

so as a precaution, might be good to lock the main screen with password so the setting can not be changed from eco by a "hostile" :lol:

Are you sure it works? Did you tried it?

 

[bigbore]

I have some problems with throttle linearity.
The Crystalyte stock Stealth Bomber throttle stopped working with my adaptto display and before stopping I was having the following nonlinear throttle curve:

Then I tried 3 different throttles and the only one that provides a linear throttle curve is this old one here:

I had nonlinear throttle curve with this brand new half throttle too:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/121623886699?var=420607718512&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Then yesterday decided that if adaptto loves the old throttle I had for spare I could turn it to an half throttle and fit on the Bomber handlebar .... here it is:

And this is the graph I have with it:

Anybody else noticed a nonlinear throttle curve with Adaptto controllers?

 

[Cowardlyduck]

I haven't finished my mods, or setting up my Fighter with the Mini-E yet, but was playing around with the throttle the other day since I just got it wired up.

The smoothest curve I could get was this.

I don't fully understand how the Adaptto interprets this either. Is it just showing what the throttle curve is, or is it somehow compensating for the non-linearity of the curve and making it more linear?
Is there a way to adjust the curve to compensate for a crappy throttle?

Cheers

 

[bigbore]

I don't fully understand how the Adaptto interprets this either. Is it just showing what the throttle curve is, or is it somehow compensating for the non-linearity of the curve and making it more linear?
Is there a way to adjust the curve to compensate for a crappy throttle?

Cheers

Good questions! I have some other technical questions regarding this amazing controller. Where are the engineers who designed it

 

[Boestin]

About to connect the mini-e with PAS option to the hall sensors, but before that I tried to read all the replies here in this thread, but couldn't find the answer. Maybe I looked over it.
Anyways, the motor, a HS4080 from Crystalyte has a mini XLR male, not far from the hub itself. I think I am going to use a UTP cable to solder that on the hub side directly to the cables and on the controller side I will solder the provided Adaptto cable on the wires.

I reckon the UTP is good enough because it has 8 transparent copper wires in there and should do the trick.

Anyone have some advice for me at this point? Is this the correct setting?

 

[Cowardlyduck]

About to connect the mini-e with PAS option to the hall sensors, but before that I tried to read all the replies here in this thread, but couldn't find the answer. Maybe I looked over it.
Anyways, the motor, a HS4080 from Crystalyte has a mini XLR male, not far from the hub itself. I think I am going to use a UTP cable to solder that on the hub side directly to the cables and on the controller side I will solder the provided Adaptto cable on the wires.

I reckon the UTP is good enough because it has 8 transparent copper wires in there and should do the trick.

Anyone have some advice for me at this point? Is this the correct setting?

I just did this exact thing the other day. Don't re-use the mini XLR...they are known for playing up when wet. The provided Adaptto connector is good and gives you one extra pin if you want to add something.
Follow Allex directions here:
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=62650#p936413

That worked for me.

Cheers

 

[Stielz]

Does anyone know what these settings are?



I thought they might be offsets for the individual hall sensors? but then there are 5 of them..
And is there any way to adjust them?

 

[ridethelightning]

I don't fully understand how the Adaptto interprets this either. Is it just showing what the throttle curve is, or is it somehow compensating for the non-linearity of the curve and making it more linear?
Is there a way to adjust the curve to compensate for a crappy throttle?

Cheers

Good questions! I have some other technical questions regarding this amazing controller. Where are the engineers who designed it

I belive its Jeka from electrotransport.ru forums :wink:

 

[graoully]

Hi

My Adaptto Mini-E is connected to a 9C Rh205 motor. When the temperature reaches about 85 °C the controler limits the power while the threshold is set to 150 °C. Setting the limit to 180 °C doesn't change the behavior. An idea about what's going on ?

 

[ridethelightning]

have you got the right temp sensor set in controller setup?

 

[bigbore]

I don't fully understand how the Adaptto interprets this either. Is it just showing what the throttle curve is, or is it somehow compensating for the non-linearity of the curve and making it more linear?
Is there a way to adjust the curve to compensate for a crappy throttle?

Cheers

Good questions! I have some other technical questions regarding this amazing controller. Where are the engineers who designed it

I belive its Jeka from electrotransport.ru forums :wink:

In English

 

[graoully]

have you got the right temp sensor set in controller setup?

Yes, the guy who sold me the kit replaced the original sensor of the rh205 by the one given with the Adaptto. But maybe the issue comes from the controller overheating (I put it in a bag over the battery) ?

 

[ridethelightning]

have you got the right temp sensor set in controller setup?

Yes, the guy who sold me the kit replaced the original sensor of the rh205 by the one given with the Adaptto. But maybe the issue comes from the controler overheating (I put it in a bag over the battery) ?

in that case its quite possibly the controller.
the mini-e doesnt have much meat to wick away heat, with its 6 fets, and i find mine will overheat fairly quickly, well before the motor gets to 100c.

check the fet temps in the health monitor screen when it happens. the controller will cut power as they approach 70c.

id definately put the controller somewhere with airflow and possibly add a heatsink with thermal glue to the fets side. perhaps you couldsee what happens if you wrap a damp wrag around it, when its in the wind :wink:

alternatively, try disabling the motor t sensor, should be safe enough,and just see what happens with the temp readout bar when the fets get warm.

 

[Boestin]

I just did this exact thing the other day. Don't re-use the mini XLR...they are known for playing up when wet. The provided Adaptto connector is good and gives you one extra pin if you want to add something.

That worked for me.

Cheers

Brilliant! Thanks!

 

[graoully]

check the fet temps in the health monitor screen when it happens. the controller will cut power as they approach 70c.

id definately put the controller somewhere with airflow and possibly add a heatsink with thermal glue to the fets side. perhaps you couldsee what happens if you wrap a damp wrag around it, when its in the wind :wink:

I put the controller outside and now the motor temperature goes up to 110°c. I gonna put it in an alunimium box (used as a heat exchanger) attached to the frame. I saw once a special thermal paste filled with carbon nanotube but I can't find it anymore on the web. Do you have more information ? I found some graphite paste (conductivity close to 10W/m.K) but it seams Carbon nanotube is much better.

In fact I have to improve thermal cooling of chips (for my job) so any good ideas are welcome

 

[Cowardlyduck]

In fact I have to improve thermal cooling of chips (for my job) so any good ideas are welcome

See my mod from a few pages back...
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61183&start=1500#p1037434
Looks like this now:
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61183&start=1525#p1038831

Cheers

 

[Cowardlyduck]

And also consider this...
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61183&start=1525#p1038927

5W/mK thermal pad for mounting to the frame.

Cheers

 

[Boestin]

Ok, finally I've been able to solder the whole thing together. The halls + temp connector is a bit of a hassle, but if you have the good equipment it goes allright.

I somehow have the infamous Halls 2 error when using Autodetect, so not when it is turning on. I can't use sensorless either, because the using the throttle blocks the hub So, I think this mean there is something else wrong then the hallsensors....

 

[Jackrabbit]

Check the wiring of the Halls plug. Remember the picture in the manual is looking at the front of the plug, not the solder points on the rear.