Best controller for Cyclone 3000w in 2025

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sviatpizdat

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Hey everyone,

I've been running Cyclone 3000W with a 48V Kelly controller for the past five years, but it died now. I'm looking for a modern replacement, ideally compact and light, that supports a future 72V battery upgrade. I need around 60A (continuous DC current).

Any recommendations? Maybe VOTOL, Sabvoton, or Yuyang King (YKZ), or other brands? Your experiences and insights would be great!

Thanks!
 
Have you looked at open source VESC controllers.
I have had good results at those requirements
 
AdR said:
Have you looked at open source VESC controllers.
I have had good results at those requirements
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I've heard of them. However, I'm not ready to deal with their programming at the moment. I want to connect a new controller and immediately drive without any hassle.
 
all new controllers ( far driver , vesc, Kelly , etc) they all require some programming , I'd just get the identical Kelly if it was plug and play
 
sviatpizdat said:
Hey everyone,

I've been running Cyclone 3000W with a 48V Kelly controller for the past five years, but it died now. I'm looking for a modern replacement, ideally compact and light, that supports a future 72V battery upgrade. I need around 60A (continuous DC current).
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When is the future? In another 5 years? 60A @ 48v is only 2880W
What other requirements do you have? Is a throttle and 3 speed switch enough, or do you need a display, etc?
Kelly makes a lot of controllers, so hard to tell what too big means.
 
E-HP said:
What other requirements do you have? Is a throttle and 3 speed switch enough, or do you need a display, etc?
Kelly makes a lot of controllers, so hard to tell what too big means.
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I don't need a display. And the speeds aren't required either, I have a mid-drive.
E-HP said:
When is the future? In another 5 years? 60A @ 48v is only 2880W
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I think in a year my battery will definitely get tired
 
neptronix said:
Yeah i was going to say spintend VESC would be great if PAS isn't required ( that's doable, but not easy to setup )
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Yes, I'm just looking at Flipsky 75100 75V 100A .

It is lightweight and powerful. But I'm worried about the waterproof
 
sviatpizdat said:
Yes, I'm just looking at Flipsky 75100 75V 100A .
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I would recommend the 75200 for a 3000w motor. VESCs are rated by phase amps, so your acceleration will not be very good with the 75100: I have a 75100 with a 3000w DD hub and while speed is amazing, I wish there was more acceleration/torque. Also, make sure not to get the original 75100 if you go that way; get one of the newer ones with better cooling and Bluetooth. I have the Pro V2, which has a power switch and Bluetooth built in.
Overall I think VESCs are great; Flipsky for cheapest price and Amazon delivery and Spintend for better quality.
sviatpizdat said:
I've heard of them. However, I'm not ready to deal with their programming at the moment. I want to connect a new controller and immediately drive without any hassle.
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The app/software for programming VESCs is much better than other controllers; a friend of mine has a Sabvoton and the app is very minimal and clunky compared to the VESC. I have heard that Votol (which you mentioned) is pretty hard to program. On the whole I think a VESC is actually easier to set up than other controllers: the app easily connects to the controller, you click the setup motor wizard and it auto-detects everything, and then you run the setup input wizard and it's ready to drive. For higher speed enable field weakening in FOC settings, I use 80A. The only downside is more manual wiring of connectors, but a cheap JST PH connector + tool kit makes it easy (don't get a pre-crimped kit.)
 
ljbred08 said:
I would recommend the 75200 for a 3000w motor. VESCs are rated by phase amps, so your acceleration will not be very good with the 75100: I have a 75100 with a 3000w DD hub and while speed is amazing, I wish there was more acceleration/torque. Also, make sure not to get the original 75100 if you go that way; get one of the newer ones with better cooling and Bluetooth. I have the Pro V2, which has a power switch and Bluetooth built in.
Overall I think VESCs are great; Flipsky for cheapest price and Amazon delivery and Spintend for better quality.

The app/software for programming VESCs is much better than other controllers; a friend of mine has a Sabvoton and the app is very minimal and clunky compared to the VESC. I have heard that Votol (which you mentioned) is pretty hard to program. On the whole I think a VESC is actually easier to set up than other controllers: the app easily connects to the controller, you click the setup motor wizard and it auto-detects everything, and then you run the setup input wizard and it's ready to drive. For higher speed enable field weakening in FOC settings, I use 80A. The only downside is more manual wiring of connectors, but a cheap JST PH connector + tool kit makes it easy (don't get a pre-crimped kit.)
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ok, i bought flipsky 75200 v2 pro.

Just installed it yesterday.


Where can I find the latest stable firmware ?

there are no versions for 75200 here
vesc_fw_archive/6.05 at main · vedderb/vesc_fw_archive

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neptronix said:
Yeah i was going to say spintend VESC would be great if PAS isn't required ( that's doable, but not easy to setup )
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As of now PAS should not be a problem with vesc anymore. Use the ppm header to plug the sensor and run vesc-tool. There are dozen of ready to use lispBM scripts posted on the discord, and if nothing helps, I can give you mine, which is super fast.
 
qwerkus said:
As of now PAS should not be a problem with vesc anymore. Use the ppm header to plug the sensor and run vesc-tool. There are dozen of ready to use lispBM scripts posted on the discord, and if nothing helps, I can give you mine, which is super fast.
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I don't use PAS. Only throttle
A-DamW said:
github.com

vesc_fw_archive/6.05/FSESC_75_200_ALU at main · vedderb/vesc_fw_archive

VESC Firmware Archive. Contribute to vedderb/vesc_fw_archive development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com
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FSESC_75_200_ALU is suitable for me? By default, I got my controller with 75_300_R2 (6.02)
 
sviatpizdat said:
I don't use PAS. Only throttle

FSESC_75_200_ALU is suitable for me? By default, I got my controller with 75_300_R2 (6.02)
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True... Hopefully someone else knows about the FSESC_75_200_ALU firmware. I have always just used the desktop VESC Tool to update firmware, which automatically fetches the firmware without having to manually download. On mine that has always been the 75_300 firmware, not the FSESC, so can't say which is actually the best to use, but the safest option right now is probably to replace with the new version of the same firmware.
 
I’d say check out the newer Sabvoton models or even VOTOL if you want something smoother and more plug-and-play. A friend switched to VOTOL when he went 72V and said it runs way cooler than his old setup. YKZ is solid too, just a bit bulkier
 
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