longhairedboy
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My aluminum box finally broke for the last time yesterday. I think i'm done with metal boxes. This thread has definitely inspired me to go pick up some fiberglassing supplies and start on my own custom covers.
Fibretech FlyPAN 2015 Dual Diag 12S
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yes, thanks! I posted some tutorials on my blog, don't hesitate should you have any questions.
http://fun.gamani.org/make-your-own-awesome-battery-enclosure/
http://fun.gamani.org/what-about-a-stunning-diy-electronic-long-boarding-enclosure/
http://fun.gamani.org/strenghten-your-electronic-longboard/
http://fun.gamani.org/dig-your-board-for-a-flat-and-stealth-electronic-longboard/
and the last one
http://fun.gamani.org/true-color-led-integration-on-your-electronic-longboard/
enjoy!
by the way, anyone ever tried to open one of the spectrum DX car tx ?
I found this that shows some interesting info
http://www.bigsquidrc.com/2-4-ghz-radio-transmitter-shootout-2-drop-test/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eecLscLowt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMXJS2T5Wpw
http://fun.gamani.org/make-your-own-awesome-battery-enclosure/
http://fun.gamani.org/what-about-a-stunning-diy-electronic-long-boarding-enclosure/
http://fun.gamani.org/strenghten-your-electronic-longboard/
http://fun.gamani.org/dig-your-board-for-a-flat-and-stealth-electronic-longboard/
and the last one
http://fun.gamani.org/true-color-led-integration-on-your-electronic-longboard/
enjoy!
by the way, anyone ever tried to open one of the spectrum DX car tx ?
I found this that shows some interesting info
http://www.bigsquidrc.com/2-4-ghz-radio-transmitter-shootout-2-drop-test/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eecLscLowt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMXJS2T5Wpw
hey jason, thanks for your feedback.
In fact we went in the city a 4 hours session/cruise. Stopped around 1 hour to eat on the banks of the Seine. I wanted to get the VMAX value, so I have several endomondo sessions. My friend in 7S dual, consumed around 6700mAH where I was 3700 only (this is what I just put back in my lipos). This is mainly due to the throttle management, my style of riding and of course high voltage.
In fact we went in the city a 4 hours session/cruise. Stopped around 1 hour to eat on the banks of the Seine. I wanted to get the VMAX value, so I have several endomondo sessions. My friend in 7S dual, consumed around 6700mAH where I was 3700 only (this is what I just put back in my lipos). This is mainly due to the throttle management, my style of riding and of course high voltage.
onloop
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Yes. your system seems to run slightly more efficient then your friend.
I think throttle management is important. Trying to keep the speed high and not asking the motor to work too hard... gradual acceleration vs drag racing.
In terms of your watts hours used.
Your friend is 7S x 3.7 = 25.9nominal voltage × 6.7AH used = 173.5WH used.
Your system 12S x 3.7 = 44.4 nominal voltage x 3.7AH used = 164.2WH used.
With different voltage systems you should refer to WH to compare.
So about 5% difference. I am not sure this would be all from throttle management. Perhaps Higher voltage might be responsible for a few % more efficient. But maybe there is also a weight difference between you and friend?
Is he/she bigger in height/size/weight?
I think throttle management is important. Trying to keep the speed high and not asking the motor to work too hard... gradual acceleration vs drag racing.
In terms of your watts hours used.
Your friend is 7S x 3.7 = 25.9nominal voltage × 6.7AH used = 173.5WH used.
Your system 12S x 3.7 = 44.4 nominal voltage x 3.7AH used = 164.2WH used.
With different voltage systems you should refer to WH to compare.
So about 5% difference. I am not sure this would be all from throttle management. Perhaps Higher voltage might be responsible for a few % more efficient. But maybe there is also a weight difference between you and friend?
Is he/she bigger in height/size/weight?
@onloop : yes - 83mm vs 76mm make a real difference
@richard : no, in fact I tried, almost got it working but it was not really "interesting" at least the result I had. When cruising, the rainbow is really pleasant to the eye and you can barefly see the synchronization between the LEDs and the speed. So I tried, but I am really happy with the actual rainbow.
@richard : no, in fact I tried, almost got it working but it was not really "interesting" at least the result I had. When cruising, the rainbow is really pleasant to the eye and you can barefly see the synchronization between the LEDs and the speed. So I tried, but I am really happy with the actual rainbow.
torqueboards
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okp said:
@okp - You should try 90mm's
Not much bigger but makes a world of a difference when riding.
bandaro
10 kW
And here I am wanting to build some 40mm motors into some wee little 66mm THESE wheels... because they ride just so nicely... Really not impressed by the 90mm clones on my other ride though, the urethane is very rubbery and waxy, noticeably lower quality than o-tangs or these. Heck, even the abec flashies or Z-flex are measurably better.
torqueboards
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bandaro said:
Yeah, the 90mm clones at 78A is not really 78A compared to otang kegel standards. I wish they had Otang Kegel's at 90mm.
hey guys, hope it helps. I think there could be something to do with the spectrum DX2E... I got one for half the price and immediately unmounted it
The throttle is really pleasant. I think I could be able to cut the PCB to remove the steering trim part.
The throttle is really pleasant. I think I could be able to cut the PCB to remove the steering trim part.
sl33py
10 kW
okp said:takes me 35 minutes to charge 3300 mAH in one 3S... I have 4... in 2 hours deal is done.
getting ready for tonight session with the Evolve community guys... hopefully they will have mAH left when I will be ready to play
okp - what's your charging setup? having to charge them individually will take forever... 2hrs isn't horrible, but you only used 3300mAh. Do you have a parallel charging balance board? Decent power supply and charger?
Great pics as always. Love your setup and appreciate you sharing your rides through Paris like this!
thanks, I am running four 3S 5AH flat packs in series.
I charge them individually at 1C (5AH). I also have a parallel charge board but it's in EC5 and I have no time to readapt EC5 to XT60; maybe I will do or just get a XT60 parallel board oneday. At this time, it's not really a pain as I am charging while doing many other things.
I plan to get some more four 3S lipos, as the setup is performing rock solid; And I will be able to change pack almost live.
My power supply is 20A output; got a 3010 charger.
I have to admit that if I had to rebuild an eboard; I would exactly do the same build as I already have. It fits perfectly my style of riding and it is really stealthy. Biggest enclosure is around 2.5cm below the deck (or even less). I don't need big packs of batteries; getting round 30km coverage on 12S and tremendous torque/speed is way above my expectations
I charge them individually at 1C (5AH). I also have a parallel charge board but it's in EC5 and I have no time to readapt EC5 to XT60; maybe I will do or just get a XT60 parallel board oneday. At this time, it's not really a pain as I am charging while doing many other things.
I plan to get some more four 3S lipos, as the setup is performing rock solid; And I will be able to change pack almost live.
My power supply is 20A output; got a 3010 charger.
I have to admit that if I had to rebuild an eboard; I would exactly do the same build as I already have. It fits perfectly my style of riding and it is really stealthy. Biggest enclosure is around 2.5cm below the deck (or even less). I don't need big packs of batteries; getting round 30km coverage on 12S and tremendous torque/speed is way above my expectations
sl33py
10 kW
understandable. Another option you could try in the meantime if you wanted to skip re-wiring your parallel board - some ec5->xt-60 adpaters:
http://www.amazon.com/XT-60-Female-Connector-Adapter-wires/dp/B00HKQPFNO
get two sets and have 2 spares, while able to charge 4 at a time! If you got another set of 4x3s, you could charge 6 at once. You might start to get limited by your 20A power supply - but not a bad problem to have!
GL!
http://www.amazon.com/XT-60-Female-Connector-Adapter-wires/dp/B00HKQPFNO
get two sets and have 2 spares, while able to charge 4 at a time! If you got another set of 4x3s, you could charge 6 at once. You might start to get limited by your 20A power supply - but not a bad problem to have!
GL!
thanks for the link !
Just arrived from today's Paris by Night session. Really nice session. Sorry for the quality of photos ! I will never want more than 5AH. This is enough for my requirements. Can get around 30km of ride downtown with nice hills; deck is really stealthy. The more I ride it, the more I think that the torque on 12S 63mm is just totally crazy from zero to 40km/h speed; especially I am now getting used to lean properly and this is like a rocket.
Believe me, once you try 12S, you will never ever go back to lower voltage.
can't wait to put two VESCs on this baby and make a new enclosure for the electric parts which will be more flat and streamlined. I can feel the benefit of having put this carbon sheet on the top of my deck; the board is snappy which is so good when you are accelerating while carving; You are just bouncing back.
Just arrived from today's Paris by Night session. Really nice session. Sorry for the quality of photos ! I will never want more than 5AH. This is enough for my requirements. Can get around 30km of ride downtown with nice hills; deck is really stealthy. The more I ride it, the more I think that the torque on 12S 63mm is just totally crazy from zero to 40km/h speed; especially I am now getting used to lean properly and this is like a rocket.
Believe me, once you try 12S, you will never ever go back to lower voltage.
can't wait to put two VESCs on this baby and make a new enclosure for the electric parts which will be more flat and streamlined. I can feel the benefit of having put this carbon sheet on the top of my deck; the board is snappy which is so good when you are accelerating while carving; You are just bouncing back.
helped a french parisian guy who needed help in assembling his board from scratch. I also fixed his issue on the cogging motor; nothing complicated; just helping future e long boarders to make the community grow.
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hey guys, been few weeks without my board. Next riding session in Paris is tomorrow morning
I am actually thinking of building a new project, well nothing innovating; just want to have another eboard, that looks like a boosted but.. with real boost if you know what I mean I don't know why but actually I just like the Vanguard.
Any tips is much appreciated !
UPDATED
- Deck : Loaded Vanguard 42 flex 1 or Vanguard 38 Flex 3 ... But I think it would be too flexy no ? I weight 70kg.
- ESC : two VESCs
- Battery : Hobbyking 12S 5AH (4x3S in series)
- Motor setup : Dual Rear motor with two Tacon Big Foot 110 - 295kv / or enertion 170kv
- Wheels : Kegels 80mm 8OA
- Trucks : Caliber
- Pulley Size : 12T
- Gear Ratio : 32T
This should give me a huge top speed with a significant torque on 12S.
Some of you may tell me that one rear motor could be enough; but I really want this extra pull provided by the two motors.
Thanks guys !
I forgot, my blog is expending progressively; I will be releasing a set of t-shirts and bunch of stickers ! If you need any review don't hesitate to contact me
have fun!
I am actually thinking of building a new project, well nothing innovating; just want to have another eboard, that looks like a boosted but.. with real boost if you know what I mean
I don't know why but actually I just like the Vanguard.Any tips is much appreciated !
UPDATED
- Deck : Loaded Vanguard 42 flex 1 or Vanguard 38 Flex 3 ... But I think it would be too flexy no ? I weight 70kg.
- ESC : two VESCs
- Battery : Hobbyking 12S 5AH (4x3S in series)
- Motor setup : Dual Rear motor with two Tacon Big Foot 110 - 295kv / or enertion 170kv
- Wheels : Kegels 80mm 8OA
- Trucks : Caliber
- Pulley Size : 12T
- Gear Ratio : 32T
This should give me a huge top speed with a significant torque on 12S.
Some of you may tell me that one rear motor could be enough; but I really want this extra pull provided by the two motors.
Thanks guys !
I forgot, my blog is expending progressively; I will be releasing a set of t-shirts and bunch of stickers ! If you need any review don't hesitate to contact me
have fun!
torqueboards
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What happened to your own main board? Did you sell it?
If you want dual rear The Bigfoot and Enertion 63mm are good options on a caliber truck. You really can't fit much more then two motors with a max of 50-55mm in length.
http://www.hobbypartz.com/96m607-bigfoot110-5325-295kv.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/96m607-bigfoot110-5325-295kv.html
On a 195mm Paris Trucks, you can fix (2) 65mm motors on the rear.
The length of the motors as mentioned are exact size.
I should have a few setups soon which I'll be building but been busy.
If you want dual rear The Bigfoot and Enertion 63mm are good options on a caliber truck. You really can't fit much more then two motors with a max of 50-55mm in length.
http://www.hobbypartz.com/96m607-bigfoot110-5325-295kv.html
http://www.nitroplanes.com/96m607-bigfoot110-5325-295kv.html
On a 195mm Paris Trucks, you can fix (2) 65mm motors on the rear.
The length of the motors as mentioned are exact size.
I should have a few setups soon which I'll be building but been busy.
