Luke's commuter bicycle. What Non-hub is all about.

liveforphysics said:
That leaves $5,500 for me to seed the next build.
I had a great ride yesterday doing some canyon carving on it with a co-worker on a motorcycle. We hung together very well until the road surface got to a poor condition choppy bumpy section, and the bicycle's lack of rear suspension and bicycle tires just have an inadequacy spotlight shined on them as you struggle to carve at a much reduced speed, and the motorcycle just blazes ahead hardly effected by the rough road conditions.
Next build will be Full Sus then, considering the above :idea: :twisted:
 
What kind of financing programs do you have? :)
 
Arlo1 said:
What kind of financing programs do you have? :)


I offer all types of financing, as long as they involve the buyer paying me in full first. :)
 
Luke, do you have dyno results?
tests data?
IMG_20111215_185755.jpg
 
You mention suspension....? Maybe make it like this.[youtube]EmzVWEAD6wA[/youtube]
 
liveforphysics said:
It's formally for sale as of now.

$15,000usd

Of that, I give $7,500 to Justin as a gift, and give $1,000 to each of the two guys who helped me to build this machine. That leaves $5,500 for me to seed the next build.

A bargain!! I thought through pricing on it and put it at $27,647 including the Sevcon Program.

... so Luke put it up for wholesale, and not my retail number. A bargain I say!!
 
Probably a good idea to prepare a waiver, can you copy PaulD's wording?

Alternative wording:

"I the undersigned know that the bike is dangerous, right?

Signed : ___________________"

:lol:
 
sico said:
Probably a good idea to prepare a waiver, can you copy PaulD's wording?

Alternative wording:

"I the undersigned know that the bike is dangerous, right?

Signed : ___________________"

:lol:


BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
 
sico said:
Probably a good idea to prepare a waiver, can you copy PaulD's wording?

Alternative wording:

"I the undersigned know that the bike is dangerous, right?

Signed : ___________________"

:lol:


Yes. Anyone who buys it and isn't an accomplished superbike racer or motocross or supermoto racer is very likely to be hurt badly the first time they go beyond half throttle. (if they ever have the balls to go over half-throttle, which kinda takes a death-wish)

I would feel better about selling someone my built 190hp GSXR-1000, because it feels fairly docile and tame to ride in comparison.


I think it should perhaps be sold as an art sculpture only, not to be ridden upon, and if they decide to ride it, they are accepting that the skin on there body is going to be smeared along asphalt.
 
liveforphysics said:
sico said:
Probably a good idea to prepare a waiver, can you copy PaulD's wording?

Alternative wording:

"I the undersigned know that the bike is dangerous, right?

Signed : ___________________"

:lol:


Yes. Anyone who buys it and isn't an accomplished superbike racer or motocross or supermoto racer is very likely to be hurt badly the first time they go beyond half throttle. (if they ever have the balls to go over half-throttle, which kinda takes a death-wish)

I would feel better about selling someone my built 190hp GSXR-1000, because it feels fairly docile and tame to ride in comparison.


I think it should perhaps be sold as an art sculpture only, not to be ridden upon, and if they decide to ride it, they are accepting that the skin on there body is going to be smeared along asphalt.

:lol:
I spit a mouthful at the monitor.
LMAO
Good luck on the next build.
Fabulous work as always.
You are the Superman of Ebikes.
Sweet gesture to Justin.
Sending good karma your way.
:mrgreen:
 
I vote that you get some real world numbers on the bike's on road performance. Before you sell it to some one who might or might not have the guts use it to its full potential.

Even just one 1/4 mile run with video and time slip. Its defiantly a fast peddle bike. But without some real numbers to go with it then its all talk.Never know it could be even faster than expected.

Its funny I remember when I had my civic guys at work would brag about there cars and come up with all kinds of numbers that they could run. Wasn't often that they would take there cars to the track and back up there claims with a time slip. When some of them did they were surprised that there cars were not as fast as they had expected and they would go all quiet after that. The track doesn't lie and its a great equaliser.

We all know its a fast bike but how fast ? Prove it on the track. Claims have so much more creditability and weight to them then.

Kurt
 
Kurt said:
I vote that you get some real world numbers on the bike's on road performance. Before you sell it to some one who might or might not have the guts use it to its full potential.

Even just one 1/4 mile run with video and time slip. Its defiantly a fast peddle bike. But without some real numbers to go with it then its all talk.Never know it could be even faster than expected.

Its funny I remember when I had my civic guys at work would brag about there cars and come up with all kinds of numbers that they could run. Wasn't often that they would take there cars to the track and back up there claims with a time slip. When some of them did they were surprised that there cars were not as fast as they had expected and they would go all quiet after that. The track doesn't lie and its a great equaliser.

We all know its a fast bike but how fast ? Prove it on the track. Claims have so much more creditability and weight to them then.

Kurt
Dude this is lukes game, Talking down a civic with a sohc 1.5 sticker on it and moss growing on it only to have some spode bet him a few hunded cash that his "modded" mustang can take him. Only to get his ass handed to him buy a total sleeper civic! I ran my bmx in the 1/4 and I turned 19.35 seconds at 52mph lol Lukes bike has ~10x the hp so....... IM betting its less then 10seconds at 100 mph!
 
IM betting its less then 10seconds at 100 mph!

Lets just see until it runs its all talk.

I really want this bike to do well and I am sure it will. I want to see it pull good numbers . When I see the time slip numbers then I can relate to it .You can say all kinds of words like fast ,crazy, death trap, and they are all just words. But A 1/4 mile time slip I can relate to. Its universal world wide and others can relate to it as well.

Kurt
 
Well, let's hope I can get it to a drag strip before somebody buys it then. I know exactly what you're talking about, everybody thinks they have a 12second car, and they find out they have 15 or 16 second cars if they are lucky. They guys who are SURE they have 10second cars run 14's. lol

I think this bike has a 12second quarter in her pretty easily, and it SLAUGHTERS 600cc superbikes and every motorcycle I've raced with it by a large margin up to about 90mph-ish, then a good 600cc bike with a ballsy rider can pass it and walk away from it on top end.

It's also still got another ~15% power left in the controller, and maybe on the track surface we could apply it, but as it sits, it's just too insane to use more power than it's currently got.


I've had 2 nibbles all ready, but since I'm giving away $9,500 of the $15,000 asking price to other well deserving folks, I'm not really willing to compromise on the price, and I'm not in any hurry to sell her, because I don't know that I've ever owned a vehicle that puts a bigger eat-to-ear smile across my face and leaves me white-knuckled and shaking after every ride.
 
Even just getting the 1/8th mile numbers would be great. A 1/8th mile is more like the distance you would be pulling full throttle on the street anyhow. Save killing your self in the run off section of a 1/4 mile track at 100mph.

Perhaps one option if you can't get it to a 1/4 mile track. A simple accelerometer program like dynolicious on a smart phone would give close enough numbers to give us a 0 - 60mph and 1/8th - 1/4 mile times + G readings.

I tyred out dynolicious on my Iphone with our family sedan and the 0- 60mph numbers were very close to factory numbers.

Kurt
 
I seriously want to see some 1/4 mile slips Luke... Just think of the
tiny size of a wheel and amount of batteries Doctor Bass will try
to strap on his bike to beat your time!! be priceless :p :mrgreen:

I downloaded "GForce Meter" from the android market to try, keep forgetting to take the damn
phone out and try it out, theres a heap of G-meter apps in the market though Luke...

KiM
 
Indeed, there are some apps for android etc that measure the 1/4 mile 0-100 km/h etc. Like Dynomaster.

They are not 100% accurate since they start counting when they notice a GPS movement or G sensor movement, but then at least we have something :p

I thought the bike was fast, but 12 sec fast.......pfff in real life that is really really fast, because most 12 sec bikes won't see those acceleration because of their riders are not able to handle it. I guess the 1/8 mile is even faster then compared to most motorcycles.
 
We have run it with high-end data-acquisition systems guys. And data-logged the acceleration rates on the controller, and it's got about 40 pulls on the dyno tuning and dialing it in.

Just because we aren't sharing publicly what the numbers are right now doesn't mean we don't know them, and have an extremely good idea of what it would do in the 1/4mile.

But, nothing compares to just running it at the track, so that's what I'm going to try to do. :)
 
My local drag strip is Sears Point (aka, Infinion raceway)

http://www.infineonraceway.com/schedule/dragstrip/

Looks like the 16th of January is the first possible opportunity I could get on the track if they will allow the bike to pass through tech.

I will try to make it happen.
 
I can't say I've ever been on my bike faster than 60km/hr (slip-streaming a semi). Say you do pass inspection Luke, at what point are the tires likely to pull apart from the forces imposed on them.
liveforphysics said:
It pretty much destroys a new 24" hookworm tire for each time you want to make a few dyno pulls, even with the big rachet straps holding the bike down.
liveforphysics said:
I estimate about 10miles of moderate/aggressive street riding per rear tire
liveforphysics said:
I think its pushing the threshold of the tire carcass tearing, it has a lot of odd tears and peeling things happening to it, and its a pretty fresh tire.

You thinking about cleaning out under your desk for the Pirelli's or would that be too much work to fit them just for the drag run?
 
Got me wondering how a bicycle tyre could handle the HP or offer the traction to pull a 12 sec 1/4 mile. Given the bikes been on the rolling road and he knows the HP at the wheel and the weight of the bike + rider . Its not to hard to punch some numbers and get a rough idea of what 1/4 mile it could run if it gets traction.

!/2 the fun would just be the video and peoples reaction in the stands when they see a peddle-bike run the 1/4 it wouldn't matter it was 15 sec or 10 sec run it would be priceless. :D

Kurt.
 
Back
Top