DrkAngel
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I was supposing the trailer flailing around ...Sunder said:
Lifting the bikes rear wheel ... jumping around and beating the bike rider like a giant caveman club?
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Lifting the bikes rear wheel ... jumping around and beating the bike rider like a giant caveman club?
latecurtis
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No I cant afford the ampflow motor. I wish though. The best I may be able to do would be.
It sounds like a good project but will need a little help on how to do it on the cheap. At least I will see 30 mph when it is done. Any help on where to get the 12" wheel and how to hook a spoke sprocket to it would help.
For now though I have gave up on getting any help to get a pedal chain hooked up to the 24" bike. I want to ride it and if a cop pulls me over and try to take my bike I am punching him in the face. that is if I cant get away. :lol:
The first video will be running the 6S LiPo.
the second will be at 36V
the third probably wont be until next month and will be with the 48V controller and 44V LiPo and I may do one with 48V SLA. They will be at full throttle and will try to get a speedo for that. Thanks for posting.
LC out.
The stupid chain breaker I got is missing the center piece.
It sounds like a good project but will need a little help on how to do it on the cheap. At least I will see 30 mph when it is done. Any help on where to get the 12" wheel and how to hook a spoke sprocket to it would help.
For now though I have gave up on getting any help to get a pedal chain hooked up to the 24" bike. I want to ride it and if a cop pulls me over and try to take my bike I am punching him in the face. that is if I cant get away. :lol:
The first video will be running the 6S LiPo.
the second will be at 36V
the third probably wont be until next month and will be with the 48V controller and 44V LiPo and I may do one with 48V SLA. They will be at full throttle and will try to get a speedo for that. Thanks for posting.
LC out.
The stupid chain breaker I got is missing the center piece.
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latecurtis
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latecurtis
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6G7hzP12Cw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viz6mBab3_k&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fIqYeO-J30&feature=youtu.be
The bike made it up the hill but slowed down a lot. The camera storage was full. Why the video stopped. On the way back I won my first race against a little kid on an electric skateboard. not the self balance but the ones with the handle you stand on. razor maybe and probably a 250W unite motor. Not sure. They are geared for about 10 mph and go fast on take off but not much after that.
He stayed on the sidewalk because I told him to as it was safer and I stayed in the road and we raced about half a block. That section of sidewalk was pretty good compared to most. He was ahead of me for about 10 feet.
I yelled back I got a bigger motor and when you get older will show you how to build a bike like this. :lol:
The picture of the balancer was after the last video so the batteries are good. I will need to charge them tonight. However I want to see how it runs at 36V.
All my SLAs are charged. I can solder a bullet on one end for the controller and a gater clip on the other to hook to the SLAs. I got plenty of bullet extenders so I am good.
I will run it at 36V and 44V LiPo in the future. However I need to do something about the brakes and will probably need to put a new tube in the tire. The valve stem is crooked and had to pry it away from the spoke to put air in it. I really hate having to loosen up the motor to get the chain off as it is a real pain in the butt to get the sprockets to line up as good as they are now though. Thanks and hope you enjoy the videos. They came out crystal clear this time.
LC. out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viz6mBab3_k&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fIqYeO-J30&feature=youtu.be
The bike made it up the hill but slowed down a lot. The camera storage was full. Why the video stopped. On the way back I won my first race against a little kid on an electric skateboard. not the self balance but the ones with the handle you stand on. razor maybe and probably a 250W unite motor. Not sure. They are geared for about 10 mph and go fast on take off but not much after that.
He stayed on the sidewalk because I told him to as it was safer and I stayed in the road and we raced about half a block. That section of sidewalk was pretty good compared to most. He was ahead of me for about 10 feet.
I yelled back I got a bigger motor and when you get older will show you how to build a bike like this. :lol:
The picture of the balancer was after the last video so the batteries are good. I will need to charge them tonight. However I want to see how it runs at 36V.
All my SLAs are charged. I can solder a bullet on one end for the controller and a gater clip on the other to hook to the SLAs. I got plenty of bullet extenders so I am good.
I will run it at 36V and 44V LiPo in the future. However I need to do something about the brakes and will probably need to put a new tube in the tire. The valve stem is crooked and had to pry it away from the spoke to put air in it. I really hate having to loosen up the motor to get the chain off as it is a real pain in the butt to get the sprockets to line up as good as they are now though. Thanks and hope you enjoy the videos. They came out crystal clear this time.
LC. out.
latecurtis
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As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns. neighborhood watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-XE3HXjt3c&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-XE3HXjt3c&feature=youtu.be
Sunder
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Did you ever find out what happened to the woman the man was beating up on?
You know I've never seen domestic violence ever in my life? Worst I've ever seen is someone yelling at his wife, and her yelling back. Never any violence.
Is that common in your area?
You know I've never seen domestic violence ever in my life? Worst I've ever seen is someone yelling at his wife, and her yelling back. Never any violence.
Is that common in your area?
DAND214
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I've never seen it either but know that it is bighere.
So it runs better on 36v then it should run better on 44v if it's not way over geared. Are the brakes better on 36v than 24?
:lol: :lol:
After seeing how bad they are I sure wouldn't want to fast at all.
have you ever checked your pm's?
Dan
So it runs better on 36v then it should run better on 44v if it's not way over geared. Are the brakes better on 36v than 24?
:lol: :lol: After seeing how bad they are I sure wouldn't want to fast at all.
have you ever checked your pm's?
Dan
latecurtis
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latecurtis
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That was right after I tried to race the four wheeler.
On my way back I talked to the friend of the girls father. He said they were fine but as soon as they crossed the street they started fighting. Also the father may be looking for the guy. The guy took off running after I went by him on the bike.
For all I know the guy could be floating down the Mohawk river right now as I am typing this.
On my way back I talked to the friend of the girls father. He said they were fine but as soon as they crossed the street they started fighting. Also the father may be looking for the guy. The guy took off running after I went by him on the bike.
For all I know the guy could be floating down the Mohawk river right now as I am typing this.
latecurtis
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjustable-10-50V-40A-2000W-Controller-for-DC-Brush-Motor-Speed-Control-QB6G-/321974935795?var=&hash=item0
Will it work with 12S LiPo or will I burn it out ?
4.17 * 4 = 50.04V
I guess if I could find the LILO function and keep them around 4.09V it would work.
4.09 * 12 = 49.08V
I could do what I said and put the 48V controller next to it and put bullets on the wires coming from the motor and bullets on the wires coming from the 48V controller to plug into the motor and for the battery. It would not be that difficult and the thumb throttle is still on the handlebars.
As far as gearing goes It is geared for 32.5 mph at 1,000W and 3,000 rpm
When I ran it before about 8 months ago with the 48V controller I had LVC issues but was new SLAs I think and breaking them in. It ran ok but shitty up the hills.
It had the 56T spoke sprocket though and rpms were slightly higher with the 48V SLA. It has the 60T spoke sprocket now and with 44.4V LiPo it could be better up hills but runs really good now at 36V. I could try it.
I could hook those up to it right now without hooking up the 48V controller as they are the new 10.0 packs I ran last week with the Schwinn but seriously, Do I need to do that now before getting my brakes worked on. :lol: I think I may wait.
I am a little upset that I did not get the 4.5 HP AmpFlow motor though when I got my settlement for disability. My question for you guys now is.
Would the AmpFlow motor properly set up and mounted like I got the motor on the back of the 24" but on a better stronger frame bike be capable of winning a race against that four wheeler I tried to race yesterday.
I have a Grand am in the back yard that I traded the Chevy Malibu for. Plus a 2005 Dodge Caravan. Maybe I can sell the car to get the AmpFlow motor.
Also if I put the Van on the road I can get a really strong frame bike and bring it to DA or Dan to help me build it.
For safety I will not run it where there is a lot of traffic at least not up to 45 mph or whatever the top speed is. With very good brakes and a helmet could I smoke that four wheeler in a 1/2 a block or 1 block race. Please let me know.
LC. out.
Will it work with 12S LiPo or will I burn it out ?
4.17 * 4 = 50.04V
I guess if I could find the LILO function and keep them around 4.09V it would work.
4.09 * 12 = 49.08V
I could do what I said and put the 48V controller next to it and put bullets on the wires coming from the motor and bullets on the wires coming from the 48V controller to plug into the motor and for the battery. It would not be that difficult and the thumb throttle is still on the handlebars.
As far as gearing goes It is geared for 32.5 mph at 1,000W and 3,000 rpm
When I ran it before about 8 months ago with the 48V controller I had LVC issues but was new SLAs I think and breaking them in. It ran ok but shitty up the hills.
It had the 56T spoke sprocket though and rpms were slightly higher with the 48V SLA. It has the 60T spoke sprocket now and with 44.4V LiPo it could be better up hills but runs really good now at 36V. I could try it.
I could hook those up to it right now without hooking up the 48V controller as they are the new 10.0 packs I ran last week with the Schwinn but seriously, Do I need to do that now before getting my brakes worked on. :lol: I think I may wait.
I am a little upset that I did not get the 4.5 HP AmpFlow motor though when I got my settlement for disability. My question for you guys now is.
Would the AmpFlow motor properly set up and mounted like I got the motor on the back of the 24" but on a better stronger frame bike be capable of winning a race against that four wheeler I tried to race yesterday.
I have a Grand am in the back yard that I traded the Chevy Malibu for. Plus a 2005 Dodge Caravan. Maybe I can sell the car to get the AmpFlow motor.
Also if I put the Van on the road I can get a really strong frame bike and bring it to DA or Dan to help me build it.
For safety I will not run it where there is a lot of traffic at least not up to 45 mph or whatever the top speed is. With very good brakes and a helmet could I smoke that four wheeler in a 1/2 a block or 1 block race. Please let me know.
LC. out.
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DrkAngel
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Unit has 50V cap.
So, upto 50V should be OK.
50V + ... a bit, should work ... with reduced lifespan.
Of course, you could replace 50V cap with 63V.
So, upto 50V should be OK.
50V + ... a bit, should work ... with reduced lifespan.
Of course, you could replace 50V cap with 63V.
latecurtis
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thanks DA.
I can live with 50V. I will just have to try it with the 10.0 packs which are between 48 and 49V currently. If it seems to run better than 36V I will just need to find that LILO settling again. I will have to play around with the charger. Not a problem.
It seems as I may have a buyer for the car. I will need that 4.5 HP Ampflow motor then. I am not sure what to gear it for though against that four wheeler. It looked to me by the wheelies it did that it was geared low. I wonder what the top speed is? I think for the Ampflow motor 40 mph gearing would work. If I tried 45 mph it could do it but at a cost on low end power which I will need a lot of to stay ahead of that thing for at least 1/2 a block. Too much low end though and the rear tire could spin out.
A 75T spoke kit = 43 mph with a 20" wheel.
A 24" wheel requires a 90T spoke kit.
The Ampflow motor is rated at 36V@4900 rpm.
4900 / 36 = 136.1 so at 44V LiPo rpm = close to 6,000 rpm.
however
The 10.0 packs are the only packs strong enough to run it and it rules out anything bigger than a 20" tire as an 84T spoke sprocket gives it 45 mph gearing.
I will need a FAT tire for the back of whatever bike it goes on. Do they make the extra wide rims for the FAT tires 36 spoke for a spoke sprocket kit. If not Kings Custom sprockets can custom drill the holes.
3,330W / 36 = 92.58W so total wattage should = 4,070 watts so 45 mph gearing could be a little low but for racing the three wheeler that could be a plus.
What do you guys think. Would the Ampflow motor even hold together at 4070W and 6,000 rpm ?
Also a 5 kilowatt controller will be needed. Where to get one cheap ?
That is why I will need you guys help to make it happen. Thanks for posting.
LC out.
DrkAngel
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For too many reasons to list again ...latecurtis said:
Not interested in, would not recommend and not inclined to help with any such project!
DAND214
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Save your money and your life. You don't have a bike that can take that power. You need stronger chain and sprockets too. Cheap controller at that power, good luck.
OH I forgot the brakes, if you ever go fast enough to realize what brakes really do, you might learn.
Read you mail!
dan
OH I forgot the brakes, if you ever go fast enough to realize what brakes really do, you might learn.
Read you mail!
dan
latecurtis
100 MW
I know. I wish I was better at working on them.
Yes DA I understand. You don't want to be liable if I get myself hurt or killed on a really fast bike.
It rained a lot today and the bikes downstairs are not covered so there could be some water inside the controller.
I really wanted to try the 44V 10.0 packs. I can still look for the LiLo function and charge them though.
I will probably need Doug to help with the brakes but for the rear I need to install a bracket and drill a hole to mount them.
Anyway thanks for posting.
LC. out.
DAND214
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Try the right button, but don't hold it down. If the LiPo starts flashing use the forward button to change to what you want, then hit the start button again. At least that's how the chargers I have work. 2 Ichargers and a new Turnigy 30amp one.
Dan
latecurtis
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13.2 * 4 = 52.8V
13 * 4 = 52V
12.5 * 4 = 50V
3,000 / 48 = 62.5
52V = 3250 rpm
4.07 * 12 = 48.84V
3.9 * 12 = 46.8V
46V = 2,875 rpm
I found the LiLo feature. I will leave the Skycharger on it and when I want to charge to 4.2V use the Megacharger.
I was wondering exactly how the Unite motors are rated as when they test them are they hooking them up to 48V exactly like on a Dc power supply or are they using fully charged 12V batteries. It would make a considerable difference.
The bike was run previously and video tapes were done at approx. 52 to 50V.
This time voltage will start at approx. 48.8 and drop to 46.8V
gearing is also down from 35 mph with the 56T spoke to 32.5 mph with the 60T spoke kit. We shall see the difference soon as the batteries will be charged tonight.
Thanks guys for posting.
LC. out.
13 * 4 = 52V
12.5 * 4 = 50V
3,000 / 48 = 62.5
52V = 3250 rpm
4.07 * 12 = 48.84V
3.9 * 12 = 46.8V
46V = 2,875 rpm
I found the LiLo feature. I will leave the Skycharger on it and when I want to charge to 4.2V use the Megacharger.
I was wondering exactly how the Unite motors are rated as when they test them are they hooking them up to 48V exactly like on a Dc power supply or are they using fully charged 12V batteries. It would make a considerable difference.
The bike was run previously and video tapes were done at approx. 52 to 50V.
This time voltage will start at approx. 48.8 and drop to 46.8V
gearing is also down from 35 mph with the 56T spoke to 32.5 mph with the 60T spoke kit. We shall see the difference soon as the batteries will be charged tonight.
Thanks guys for posting.
LC. out.
DrkAngel
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Your 52.8V SLA likely output at less than 48V under moderate throttle.
Age, deterioration, but mostly low Ah all contribute to a dramatic voltage sag during use.
Leave a volt meter attached during use to demonstrate-monitor voltage sag ... also works as fuel gauge.
Age, deterioration, but mostly low Ah all contribute to a dramatic voltage sag during use.
Leave a volt meter attached during use to demonstrate-monitor voltage sag ... also works as fuel gauge.
latecurtis
100 MW
Actually back when I ran them with that bike they were just getting broken in. I could go back and find the video. But yes there was voltage sag. It is why the LVC cutoff a couple times on the first run with that same bike but with the 56T sprocket on it and the new 48V controller that sits in a drawer behind me now.
It was not age or deterioration though but was the internal chemistry of the SLAs being brand new at that time. I ran them about a week later after running them a couple more times and did not have an issue with the LVC.
I don't plan on EVER running 48V SLA again. I will run 36V SLA and run and charge them 3 at a time as it makes more sense. Too much weight and I am set up for parallel charging three at a time. I have six total SLAs so it just makes more sense.
However if I had a motor which would handle 72V then I could run all six and mabye I could race that four wheeler.
I will never give up on a 50 mph e bike. It is just on hold right now until I can figure out how to start saving some money. 
I just would like a general idea what it would take to smoke four or three wheelers and mabye some crotch rockets with an e bike. Mabye not top end but at least around one city block. or 1/8 mile. Could someone please let me know. ?The 10.0 packs are charged and ready. If it don't rain all day I will take the 24" bike to a spot where I can do full throttle for awhile and wont have to worry about stopping quick. Thanks for posting.
LC. out.
DrkAngel
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Oops, forgot.DrkAngel said:
Most mostly ... running 40A through 5Amp rated alligator clips could provoke horrific voltage sag at the controller.
latecurtis
100 MW
Yes. That is another really good reason for NOT running SLAs except for 36V and about 10 to 15 mph. 60 or 72V SLA would not work with alligator clips.
I remember someone telling me that those clips made sparks when running them and I have heard the snaps. However I had no issues with them when making the videos with the Dimond Back and 24" bike so I am definitely only running the SLAs for short less than 3 mile trips at 10 to 15 mph.
Today though however we are going to test the gearing to see how the 24" bike will run at 44V LiPo. Actually 49.1V to start out.
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latecurtis
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View attachment 1The top cash box is the 16S - 22V pack (two 8S packs in parallel) previously used for the 24" bike when running it at 6S LiPo.
The bottom cash box with the two 10.0 - 6S packs were never used with the 24" bike. They were wired for the Schwinn.
The top picture shows the two positive plugs.
REVERSE POLARITY!!!!
When I hit the switch the bike lurched backwards. I flicked the switch off but the controller smells burnt.
I guess it is time to take another break from e bikes for awhile. :x
DAND214
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DrkAngel
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The top cash box is the 6s2p - 22V pack (two 8Ah packs in parallel 22.2V 16Ah) previously used for the 24" bike when running it at 6S LiPo.latecurtis said:
The bottom cash box with the two 10Ah - 6S packs (12s = 44.4V 10Ah) were never used with the 24" bike. They were wired for the Schwinn.latecurtis said:
Déjà vu! Done this before ... right?latecurtis said:
Multimeter! is for testing and confirming proper polarity before final connection or trial!!!
I guess it is time to take another break from alcohol for awhile. :wink:latecurtis said:
Maybe not being drunk would help?
latecurtis
100 MW
I don't drink during the day. only at night.
I cut down to about 3 or 4 beers over a 4 hour period on average so don't really get drunk. It helps me to sleep.
The 8.0 packs in parallel are 6S packs. I charge them so kind of hard to make a mistake. I don't even have an 8S charger.
I was smart enough to buy a spare controller just like the one I burned out. I can replace the burnt one in less than an hour.
However am in no big hurry as the bike needs brake work before going 28 mph with it anyway.
After the first of September I will have a little money to get someone to help me with the brakes.
That would be a better time to get it running again. I can ride the Schwinn until then.
I can solder bullets plugs today to use for when I want to run the 24" bike. They are wired to plug directly into the Schwinn.
thanks. LC out.
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