Qulbix Raptor ebike + frame kit

[Rix]

If I wasn't saving up for a ring....I would totally grab a new cromo into a 19" prowheel, but until then I'll have to stick with my V1 cromo in the 26" large marge.

On a separate subject, any opinions on me putting my Kelly inside the battery compartment? I have sooooo much space in there! I was thinking of mounting it on the top plate inside. It rarely gets warm, but I'm not sure if I want it totally enclosed. It would help with not havin to waterproof it and the wires would all be tucked away making it a pretty clean build. If not, I suppose I could convert it into a trunk too...

You should talk with Kepler about this. He has moded both is Fighter and Bombers by concealing the controller and using the frame as an additional heat sink. It was very successful considering that he ran over 11KW peak through his Bomber and never had an issue with the controller inside of the battery compartment.

 

[QuestionMan]

I would think the controller needs a good airflow or mounted to the frame inside. I once put a low voltage controller in a battery bag, was not even pushing that many amps and that thing got way hot. I guess you could try to see how hot it got by placing it in the battery compartment but I would check it very often to see how hot it was getting.

 

[dan974]

i think there is no issues as the Kelly has an internal temp protection @ 100 deg C, ignore not using for the motor you can even wire a kty 84/210 +1K on the temp wire and It will cut controller at the software value...all in the manual...

 

[dan974]

i think there is no issues as the Kelly has an internal temp protection @ 100 deg C, if you re not using it for the motor you can even wire a kty 84/210 +1K on the temp wire and It will cut controller at the sofware value...all in the manual...

 

[moonshine]

Yea, the Kelly rarely gets warm even when I push 15kw peaks. With the addition of the temp cutoff I think it'll be just fine. It's gonna look so epic. I'm pumped to get back to it this weekend!

 

[Rix]

I would think the controller needs a good airflow or mounted to the frame inside. I once put a low voltage controller in a battery bag, was not even pushing that many amps and that thing got way hot. I guess you could try to see how hot it got by placing it in the battery compartment but I would check it very often to see how hot it was getting.

Qman, the reason that Keplers internally mounted controllers never failed were that he used the frame as a heat sink it self. So the air flowing by the outside of the frame, which transferred heat away from the controller via heat sink process keeps the controller cooler. When using the frame as a heat sink, there is a way to properly mount the controller, I don't remember how Kepler did it which was why I referred Moonshine to him.

Rick

 

[Qulbix]

Hi, everyone.
It's great to see your builds are getting along so nicely! We, here at Torque, follow your progress with great interest.
Here is a short video on riding Raptor bike that I've made in hopes it would encourage you to share your bike ride videos as well.
Have a great week.
Regards,
Ziva

[youtube]TI4uH0u0tY4[/youtube]

 

[izeman]

ok. you're definately not spielberg (and don't need to - ebikes are your business), but it would be great to see more of the bike
there are blurry pictures, and i could never see the bike as whole.

 

[QuestionMan]

ok. you're definately not spielberg (and don't need to - ebikes are your business), but it would be great to see more of the bike
there are blurry pictures, and i could never see the bike as whole.

I agree and thought the same. We need more photos / videos of someone riding the bike to see how it looks. How the motorcycle seat works when riding.

 

[samoloh]

ok. you're definately not spielberg (and don't need to - ebikes are your business), but it would be great to see more of the bike
there are blurry pictures, and i could never see the bike as whole.

I agree and thought the same. We need more photos / videos of someone riding the bike to see how it looks. How the motorcycle seat works when riding.

I guess we would have to wait till someone's project is complete, maybe moonshine

 

[ecruz]

Thanks for the video Ziva, wish like others the bike was shown, a few jumps would have been nice too lol.

I got my controller, went with a heavily modded Lyen 24fet and it has arrived! Lyen has the fastest service I have even seen!!!. So all I have left is getting the batteries and lacing the wheels and I am ready to ride. Then off to photoshoot!

 

[snellemin]

I'm still waiting on confirmation if my frame is done and ready to ship. Getting more pieces in for the build up.

 

[QuestionMan]

I have pretty much researched in depth every component I would install on this bike. Took me hours to do so and posted questions and read many posts on many bicycle forms. If I ordered a frame I would have everything ready to go into the frame when it arrived and would probably have the bike up and running that day or the next assuming I do not run into any problems. But that's just me because I am so damn curious how a downhill geometry bike would handle, I couldn't wait weeks with the frame sitting there and not be able to ride it. It does help that I currently don't have a full time job so have plenty of time on my hands.

I'm still on the fence about this bike until I hear some reviews. I really need to know how it handles, how the 160mm body feels, how the ground clearance is especially when using smaller tires. How the turning radius is with a dual crown fork.

 

[Rix]

Thanks for the video Ziva, wish like others the bike was shown, a few jumps would have been nice too lol.

I got my controller, went with a heavily modded Lyen 24fet and it has arrived! Lyen has the fastest service I have even seen!!!. So all I have left is getting the batteries and lacing the wheels and I am ready to ride. Then off to photoshoot!

Damn dude, a Lyen24 Fet is serious business. So what are looking at as far as peak volts watts? If I asked this question before, I appologize. I ask this question alot and some times ask the same person twice.

Rick

 

[moonshine]

rix if it's any help, i've set my kelly to run a peak of 15Kw.

 

[Rix]

rix if it's any help, i've set my kelly to run a peak of 15Kw.

YAH Thats what I am talking about

 

[QuestionMan]

why would you want it to run at a peak of 15KW?

 

[Rix]

why would you want it to run at a peak of 15KW?

Because it will be faster than $hit and take off like a rocket.

 

[Secret1511]

Okay so who can give a review of this frame?

 

[ecruz]

Thanks for the video Ziva, wish like others the bike was shown, a few jumps would have been nice too lol.

I got my controller, went with a heavily modded Lyen 24fet and it has arrived! Lyen has the fastest service I have even seen!!!. So all I have left is getting the batteries and lacing the wheels and I am ready to ride. Then off to photoshoot!

Damn dude, a Lyen24 Fet is serious business. So what are looking at as far as peak volts watts? If I asked this question before, I appologize. I ask this question alot and some times ask the same person twice.

Rick

I am going to run 96v 20ah or higher 25" wheel in the back counting tire. I am seriously needing help from SOMEONE to find me a lifepo maker that can make me a custom battery pack that has a 100amp bms option somehow. I am also in the need for the right charger for this battery! HELP HELP HELP PLEASE. I cannot go Lipo due to living arrangements and sleep well at night. :0)

I am in the process of modifying the 24 fet controller to fit in the cage area. I am taking out the thin tin aluminum frame and making an all aluminum thick but lower clearance chassis for the controller that will heat sync to the entire frame of the raptor and making the overall size 20% smaller. I figured since I have to make mods to the controller to fit the cage I might as well go all the way and give it much more heat dissipation.

By the way I come from a heavy computer modding background and have lots of heat dissipation experience. I recommend , Thermaltake TG-1 Thermal compound it will transfer a tested 14% more heat than the white thermal paste used on the controllers. See article: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-January-2012/1468/5

Thought I might share for those of you who want to also take on that task.

The cranks came out pretty good I think. Even has a lights as dust covers for the Crank arms that I had laying around. LOL I also Carbonfibered the entire frame and swing arm came out excellent. The contrast of the carbon fiber with the anodized Red looks fantastic.

 

[mattrb]

I am seriously needing help from SOMEONE to find me a lifepo maker that can make me a custom battery pack that has a 100amp bms option somehow.

Quote from the Hi Power cycles website:

NEXT GENERATION Lithium NMC batteries Are HERE! Introducing HPC ELITE Li-NMC batteries. ... Capable of discharging up to and over 100A continuous!

The HPC battery is around $2k for the 90v-13ah 100A Li-NCM (It comes as two battery bricks). You might be able to fit 90v-26ah (about 100m range) HPC battery packs in that huge frame size for the torque raptor. One Phasor guy bought the 100A but had issues with the CAv3 working properly with it and it is currently in Warranty/Interbike break limbo. The included weak HPC controller was probably the culprit. Reviews will come for the 100a HPC battery soon but it was shown to lift the front tire in spectacular display.
Also jonescg in AUS will build you one if you have the parts for battery assembly sent to him. He does not keep parts inventory because of infrequent build requests.

 

[QuestionMan]

ecruz: What tires and rims are you using that are 25"? Do you have them yet?

And like Rix said, sorry if I asked already and you replied

 

[wojtek]

By the way I come from a heavy computer modding background and have lots of heat dissipation experience. I recommend , Thermaltake TG-1 Thermal compound it will transfer a tested 14% more heat than the white thermal paste used on the controllers. See article: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-January-2012/1468/5

how would that compare to supertherm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo0C4tOOT2A

If i were to fill the controller with it, where would the heat actually go?

 

[ecruz]

I am seriously needing help from SOMEONE to find me a lifepo maker that can make me a custom battery pack that has a 100amp bms option somehow.

Quote from the Hi Power cycles website:

NEXT GENERATION Lithium NMC batteries Are HERE! Introducing HPC ELITE Li-NMC batteries. ... Capable of discharging up to and over 100A continuous!

The HPC battery is around $2k for the 90v-13ah 100A Li-NCM (It comes as two battery bricks). You might be able to fit 90v-26ah (about 100m range) HPC battery packs in that huge frame size for the torque raptor. One Phasor guy bought the 100A but had issues with the CAv3 working properly with it and it is currently in Warranty/Interbike break limbo. The included weak HPC controller was probably the culprit. Reviews will come for the 100a HPC battery soon but it was shown to lift the front tire in spectacular display.
Also jonescg in AUS will build you one if you have the parts for battery assembly sent to him. He does not keep parts inventory because of infrequent build requests.

I have seen those, its just everything from HPC is over priced and their numbers always seem fudged. Has anyone had experience with actual use of these batteries?

 

[ecruz]

ecruz: What tires and rims are you using that are 25"? Do you have them yet?

And like Rix said, sorry if I asked already and you replied

Alex rims DX32 24" and crazy bobs 24" together go to 25.5"