Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

[Brake]

Thought I might just mention that I went 22s @ 10kw to 21s @ 14kw with no overheating issues.

 

[BCTECH]

From what I've read so far, when running high amps there is a time when there are voltage spikes. By running at 21s and charging to only 4 volts, I can keep a bigger safety margin. 84 volts.
I'm looking for torque. Not necessarily top speed. I think 60 mph is a speed that you rarely use the bike at. All the technical specs of the capacitors are here in this thread. I don't want to incorrectly quote them.

I am at the same boat looking for torque more than top speed. isn't 22S running less amp for the same power?
1s more or less might be not big deal. if i want a simple safe balancing solution for the BMS, i think either 20S or 24S
then i am not sure if lower V is safer or lower amp

 

[Ohbse]

From what I've read so far, when running high amps there is a time when there are voltage spikes. By running at 21s and charging to only 4 volts, I can keep a bigger safety margin. 84 volts.
I'm looking for torque. Not necessarily top speed. I think 60 mph is a speed that you rarely use the bike at. All the technical specs of the capacitors are here in this thread. I don't want to incorrectly quote them.

I am at the same boat looking for torque more than top speed. isn't 22S running less amp for the same power?
1s more or less might be not big deal. if i want a simple safe balancing solution for the BMS, i think either 20S or 24S
then i am not sure if lower V is safer or lower amp

24s is a bad plan, 20s is more than capable of your goals.

 

[Boestin]

I am planning to buy a couple of these 6s battery's, because the price seems pretty good.
So if i understand it correct, it is better to choose a 18S config instead of 24?

 

[Scott]

I am planning to buy a couple of these 6s battery's, because the price seems pretty good.
So if i understand it correct, it is better to choose a 18S config instead of 24?

Yes, 18s would be much better than 24s for an Adaptto controller.

I would really recommend going with 4s packs instead of 6s ones.

If you totally understand the wiring diagrams for making the 6s to 4s harness then go for it. Most people will probably spend a whole day working on it and this is something one doesn't want to mess up. Even if one makes the wiring harness right, they MUST plug the batteries in the right way/order. The only reason I used 6s packs was because I already had them.

 

[Offroader]

Yup, I'd stay away from the 6s packs. I also have them and never bothered to even hook up my BMS because I was too lazy to do the wiring. Lucky my cells are perfect and haven't needed any balancing after many months.

I think the sweet spot is 20s, 4s-4s-4s-4s-4s for easy BMS installation and less risk of over voltage to the max-e., Plus you can turn up those phase amps when you unlock your controller with less risk compared to 22s.

 

[Dirtech]

Anybody know what settings I should use for variable regen using a wuxing thumb throttle? I am sure I have it wired properly but when I push it nothing happens.

Yeah its not the settings because I am getting no signal to the controller when I try calibration. Think I got a duff throttle Anybody know a reliable place to get these?

 

[ridethelightning]

have you checked the readings on the wires from the throttle with the meter? sometimes the wires get frayed off where they join the pot. could be as simple as a broken wire...

sure you got the correct wires from display??

 

[dockers]

Yeah all my throttle issues have been caused by crappy soldering joints cracking. Worth a look.

 

[Dirtech]

have you checked the readings on the wires from the throttle with the meter? sometimes the wires get frayed off where they join the pot. could be as simple as a broken wire...

sure you got the correct wires from display??

Thanks guys ill double check it tomorrow. I know the wires are correct because my magura throttle works fine and I have the thumb throttle for regen in parallel. Ill check the soldering joints but I bet that's it. Will be good to get regen working as am curious how effective it is.
Definitely worth a check before I order a replacement.

 

[ozman]

Hi Guys

If i bought a 22s pack made up of 18650 cells
Would i be able to use it with the adaptto Max-E and charge to 4.2v per cell or would charging to 4.08v per cell be a better idea

 

[Brake]

For cell longevity I would only charge to 4.08 v. I'm at 21s and only charging to 4.00v. Still have plenty of power and capacity. When I was running 22s I tried to keep it under 90 volts. There are other variables to consider, like how many max amps are you planning, etc.

 

[ozman]

For cell longevity I would only charge to 4.08 v. I'm at 21s and only charging to 4.00v. Still have plenty of power and capacity. When I was running 22s I tried to keep it under 90 volts. There are other variables to consider, like how many max amps are you planning, etc.

I will probably be using 80amps current from the battery max i reckon and what ever the phase amps 190 maybe what do you think is that asking a bit much of the Max-e with a 22s pack
Motor is MXUS 3000 4t

 

[Brake]

I never had any problem doing that while on 22s konian cells. It was a lot of fun too. My voltage sag was probably higher than what you will have. I tried to take it easy between full amps and then high regen, paused for a second between.

 

[ozman]

I never had any problem doing that while on 22s konian cells. It was a lot of fun too. My voltage sag was probably higher than what you will have. I tried to take it easy between full amps and then high regen, paused for a second between.

Thanks Brake

 

[morati]

Anyone know how to keep the Main Screen displayed on the Adaptto while riding? Mine keeps reverting to the next screen so I can't see my speed without using the "back" button.

 

[Jonboy]

Hi guys, I'm looking for a little reassurance here.. In the pic attached i've started to trial assemble my new multistar 4s 16ah packs for use with my new Max E.

What I've done so far:

Taped them into a brick just to hold them steady for now.
Paralleled each two packs that are side by side to each other with xt90 parralleling leads.
Using 4s Parallel Balance Leads join the two packs that are side by side to each other.
Link 5 sets of two packs in series.

As you look at the pic you can see the + terminates at the left hand side and the - on the right.

Looking at the adaptto wiring diagram the - side of the complete battery pack to bms starts first enabling the other end of the bms to be snapped off if need be, so the last plug going into the bms should be the one which lands up plugged into the packs that that terminate with the + side off all the packs.

So assuming I got this all ok, can I:

Plug in to the bms as they are in the pic?

Do the plugs need to be inserted in any specific order?

Does the 4 pin bms black plug need to be plugged in to the complete system before the balance plugs go in?

If so to the above, does the whole set up need to be powered up too?


I'm hoping it's a simple plug it all in away from the system so I can finish the pack completely then just plug it into the adaptto when I'm ready...

Many thanks..

Jon

 

[ridethelightning]

what you have looks good so far.

better check with Allex on the details on power up when plugging in the bms.

iv always had my controller powered up,bms plugged in before i plug the ballence plugs IN ORDER one by one ,into place.

always good to check on the pins that the voltages are in right order with the meter,

make sure any serial pack connections are all connected first or you can fry it.

 

[Jonboy]

Hi mate thanks for that..
When you say plug the balance plugs in order when you look at the pic is it right to left?

Thanks

 

[ridethelightning]

as it is in the pic, yes, right to left.

 

[Allex]

You can actually plug them in how you like, in whatever order and also swap them while everything is ON. As long as the connector wiring is correct

 

[Jonboy]

Thanks guys..

Allex, so the bms should not be plugged in to the balance leads if it isn't attached to the controller & powered up? :?

 

[Allex]

It is ok to plug balance lead while the BMS is not connected to the controller.
But what is not ok is to disconnect single batteries while the balance leads are connected to the BMS, this could fry the board.

 

[Hyena]

Thanks guys..

Allex, so the bms should not be plugged in to the balance leads if it isn't attached to the controller & powered up? :?

I didnt have any problem connecting mine first, infact due to a stuff up on on the balance taps I ended up soldering several of the wires straight to the board. I imagine they're made to be plugged and unplugged if removing the battery from the bike etc.

 

[Offroader]

You can actually plug them in how you like, in whatever order and also swap them while everything is ON. As long as the connector wiring is correct

Interesting, much better than using 6s packs.

I guess this is because you're not connecting balance lead wires from two packs together, each pack balance leads are completely separated from the other packs.

I assume this means you can plug in the 4s balance leads into any slot in any order into the BMS. You could also unplug packs in the series while the 4s balance leads are also connected to the BMS. I guess there is nothing you really could do to burn out the BMS if your using hobby king 4s packs where the wiring is guaranteed to be correct on the individual packs.