new eZip motor

[latecurtis]

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns. E bike transportation.

I ran out of my blood pressure pill yesterday. I take two different kinds and one was out. The CVS near where I talked to that guy around the corner was closed at 6 pm as it is Saturday.

I could have taken the Schwinn with the new 10.0 packs but decided on the Diamond Back and three SLAs.

I forgot my lock so brought it in the store with me as well as Price chopper afterwards to get a jar of spaghetti sauce for dinner. Someone may have said something especially if it were a big mountain bike. It is about a 3 to 4 mile trip total and the Diamond Back is not one of my bikes I like going fast with. There was an issue with the inner tube when installing it so there is like a little lump in the tire but is not bad where you cant ride it. I took it easy on the SLAs. 10 to 15 mph or somewhere in between.

I left the multi-meter on and now it is about two volts off. I will calibrate it when I get a new battery. I can use a brand new aa battery but the desulfater also works but not as accurate. I forgot what the voltage of a fully charged aa battery is. Can you please let me know.

I said I would never buy SLAs again but I might have lied because you really cant beat them for easy carefree charging. They just are not practical beyond 36V. Any more than three and it is more difficult to charge and the weight factor also. Also for any speed greater that 15 mph or for a long stretch up a hill they will fail or shorten their lifespan dramatically as they are not meant for high discharge like LiPo but for mostly level flat ground at less than 15 mph up to four miles round trip they are simply perfect. Thanks.

LC. out.

 

[latecurtis]

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns. I am riding the Schwinn today.

Going downtown to see my friend. Probably watch a movie if I remember the firestick remote this time. Going to drink some beers.
My friend found a next abandoned in the sticks. I will look at it but not taking it home today. I guess he went to Stewarts with $20 in cans to return in the machine but machine was broken so he stashed them in the bushes. When he returned the next day to get them and turn them in the bag of cans was gone and the NEXT mountain bike was there. Sounds like a fair trade to me. Call me a thief if you like but my friend is totally broke and out of food stamps and goes to the city mission to eat this time of the month so as far as I am concerned it was a fair trade and I am buying my friend a six pack tonight for the bike but am leaving the bike there as I am riding the Schwinn. Thanks.

LC. out.

 

[Sunder]

. When he returned the next day to get them and turn them in the bag of cans was gone and the NEXT mountain bike was there. Sounds like a fair trade to me. Call me a thief if you like but my friend is totally broke and out of food stamps and goes to the city mission to eat this time of the month so as far as I am concerned it was a fair trade and I am buying my friend a six pack tonight

So your friend gets a bike in trade for a few cans which he lost

You get a bike for a six pack

What does the kid who lost his mountain bike - probably his only means of transport to get to work in his minimum wage Stewarts shelf stacking job get - one of these?

 

[latecurtis]

The bike is a piece of shit anyway and if the owner had a job at Stewart's then he would NOT have needed to steal my friends cans! Also he would have been able to afford a chain and padlock to lock the thing up. I DO and so does anyone else who gives a crap about their bike. Not only that but at Stewerts or any convenient store they have a back room for stock and if he or she did not have a lock they could have kept it inside. that is what I would have done.

Whoever left the bike there probably stole it. People leave bikes around all over. This is Schenectady. Top 10 crime rate in the country.
Crackheads sell bikes like that for $20 all day long. Unless you are willing to hire a private investigator it would be nearly impossible to trace it to the rightful owner. Not only that but these bikes people leave laying around either end up in the scrap yard or the Electric City bike rescue club.

It is not like an abandoned car where you have to take paperwork to motor vehicles and file for a new title. As far as I am concerned a STOLEN bike must meet one or more of the following criteria.

1. Someone cuts a chain or lock to steal the bike.
2. The bike is on private property like a front or back yard ,porch. ect.
3. The bike is outside of a store mall ect.

If it is in the bushes or left on the sidewalk it is ABANDONED. period.

He put it in his basement and I looked at it. It is still there. It will be a inconvenience to go and get it anyway as I will have to walk or take a bus downtown. Also I dont even have a motor to put on it. I dont even know if I want it or not but my friend did not steal it. Like I said some crackhead saw the cans and left his bike there because he could not ride it with a big bag of cans so he left it there. the crackhead mabye stole it or bought it stolen but either way I am not a cop or a snitch and neither me or my friend are thieves so wether I take it or not does not really matter. Someone traded it for a bag of cans. period. Thanks.

LC. out.

 

[DAND214]

LateCurtis wrote:
This is Schenectady. Top 10 crime rate in the country.

Here in Chicago, I don't see or hear about stolen bikes as much as I hear about shootings and killings.
I left a couple bikes in the weeds earlier this spring. No thanks.

Dan

 

[latecurtis]

The 24" Huffy I found on the sidewalk with the handlebars all bent the front rim also and the chain was off. It was obviously abandoned and if I did not take it the garbage man or a scrap metal guy would have.

I don't even know if I will take the next or not.

However I think the power supply you sent is broke. I took the Diamond back to the soup kitchen and tried to charge the SLAs when I got home but the power supply wont turn on. If you know how to fix it I can send it back. I will pay for the postage.


I might just get a 36V three stage if I can get one that does not require a separate power supply. Please let me know. The 12V three stage seems to NOT be working either. please let me know.

LC. out.

 

[DAND214]

Check the outlet?

Dan

 

[Sunder]

As far as I am concerned a STOLEN bike must meet one or more of the following criteria.

1. Someone cuts a chain or lock to steal the bike.
2. The bike is on private property like a front or back yard ,porch. ect.
3. The bike is outside of a store mall ect.

Well, shit. I abandon my bike almost every day.

I never lock it up at work (front of the office is pretty public - but that's also a defence - it's within view of the receptionist.), and only lock it up when at the shops if I'm going to be more than 5-10 minutes.

 

[DAND214]

As far as I am concerned a STOLEN bike must meet one or more of the following criteria.

1. Someone cuts a chain or lock to steal the bike.
2. The bike is on private property like a front or back yard ,porch. ect.
3. The bike is outside of a store mall ect.

Well, shit. I abandon my bike almost every day.

I never lock it up at work (front of the office is pretty public - but that's also a defence - it's within view of the receptionist.), and only lock it up when at the shops if I'm going to be more than 5-10 minutes.

YOU ARE ONE LUCKY GUY SUNDER. I don't have a receptionist. Oh crap I forgot, I don't work anymore :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dan

 

[Sunder]

As far as I am concerned a STOLEN bike must meet one or more of the following criteria.

1. Someone cuts a chain or lock to steal the bike.
2. The bike is on private property like a front or back yard ,porch. ect.
3. The bike is outside of a store mall ect.

Well, shit. I abandon my bike almost every day.

I never lock it up at work (front of the office is pretty public - but that's also a defence - it's within view of the receptionist.), and only lock it up when at the shops if I'm going to be more than 5-10 minutes.

YOU ARE ONE LUCKY GUY SUNDER. I don't have a receptionist. Oh crap I forgot, I don't work anymore :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dan

Not my receptionist, just the company one

 

[latecurtis]

There is a voltage drop from the extension cord causing the problem. I did not catch it at first as I plugged my electric drill into it and it worked and I made sure it was plugged into the power strip. I will try a different plug on the power strip like the first one instead of the last one on the end to see if it makes a difference.
No difference. It will not work plugged into the extension cord. What I don't get however is why it worked before but now it wont. I don't see what has changed. Also the three stage charger don't seem to work anywhere. I am not sure if it is the wires I hooked to it or not. I will have to play with it tomorrow. I cant afford a proper three stage charger. I guess I can just charge them with the mega- charger and then hook up the desulfater. That will work at 36V so I wont need to add wires or build more parallel wires.


As far as the other discussion I would NEVER leave a bike unlocked but did once awhile ago when I went to the bank and put it next to a window and asked the lady behind the desk to keep an eye on it but it was the bike with the 2 by 4 holding up the motor. I would not do that with the Schwinn or the Diamond Back though as I got too much money in those bikes. Around here if someone leaves their bike unlocked they are gambling on whether it will be there when they get back. If they can go to a bike store or Wall - Mart and buy a bike the locks are right there by the bikes so I see absolutely no excuse for not having a lock. Also any bike around here reported stolen GOOD LUCK!

Police around here are more worried about shootings , gang violence, domestic violence and crack and heroin being sold on the street than a bike. Maybe if it is a rich guy that got his bike stolen off his front porch and it is a $1,000 bike they may actually go thru with filing the report at the station but for a cheap Wall-Mart bike the cops will say ok we will see what we can do and instead of heading to the station and filing a report they head to Duncan Donuts. :lol: Thanks.

LC. out.

 

[Sunder]

Police around here are more worried about shootings , gang violence, domestic violence and crack and heroin being sold on the street than a bike. Maybe if it is a rich guy that got his bike stolen off his front porch and it is a $1,000 bike they may actually go thru with filing the report at the station but for a cheap Wall-Mart bike the cops will say ok we will see what we can do and instead of heading to the station and filing a report they head to Duncan Donuts. :lol: Thanks.

LC. out.

We live in different worlds. The official rate of domestic violence in my area is 3 incidences per 100,000 population per year. The real rate of course is higher, but that's just what's officially reported. Murders? They must happen, but it's been a long time since I've heard of one. Mostly while someone's on drugs, rather than like organised crime. I've left my front door open while on holidays for 2 weeks, and everything was still here when I got back.

Not all of Sydney's like this of course, just 20km away (About 12 miles), the domestic violence rate is about 7000 per 100,000 population, and every day there's a new murder, gangland shootings every few weeks. I remember when I was young, I bought a really expensive sports car. Like 3x the average wage at the time, so imagine a car in the US worth about $150k. I was with a mate who worked with "Juvenile Justice". Basically, if a kid did a minor crime, they'd go through rehab and counselling rather than jail, so he'd seen it all.

Took the car to some of the places he did work, and got a bit lost. No GPS back then, so I pulled over in front of someone's driveway and pulled out an old fashioned map. 5 minutes later, I look up and there's a car trying to get in the driveway. Asked my mate how long he'd been waiting without beeping, and he said "Most of the time we've been here". I said that he must have been real patient to wait for me to move instead of hitting the horn. His reply was that a car like this in such a poor area, I'm probably a drug dealer - and a pretty senior one too. Probably figured if he hit the horn or yelled at me, I'd have thugs come around to his house the next day.

I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with what you did, but it's pretty obvious you and I live in very different worlds.

 

[latecurtis]

I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with what you did, but it's pretty obvious you and I live in very different worlds.

First of all I did not do anything. The dude downtown is buying beer for me on the first of September when he gets his disability so he don't owe me his bike for the six pack I bought. I don't even want that bike. I have enough bikes.

Yea. How much is a plane ticket over there ? Can I get my disability transferred over there ? Maybe I could work part time if it is not too physically demanding.
I would like to get out of this shit.

However 50 miles west of here they call it the boondocks or the sticks or no mans land. It is where my brother lives and where I am from. The Amish people drive around with their horses and wagons. When you drive around all you see is cows , corn fields and it smells like cow dung everywhere. :lol:

There are little towns on either side of the Mohawk river for about a 60 mile stretch. they are so small if you blink your eyes going 70 mph on the thruway you missed them.

I don't go back there as I got in a lot of trouble with the law back in the 80s. Another reason is my bad heart valve. The nearest hospital is 22 miles from where I grew up.

Also I would probably get pulled over with an e bike as the cops in those parts are board out of their mind. It would be something different for them and I would be jacked up along the road or street until they researched the law. they may even impound it so they can ride it around and kill my LiPo batteries.

Hillbilly cops ! I took on two of them when I was 16. Put 5 stitches in one of their heads. One of them tried to hit me over the head with a metal flashlight just because I was hanging around downtown after 10 pm. :lol: Those cops would be shaking in their shoes if they had to do one shift here in Schenectady. Yea, Different worlds.

I might install that spare variable controller today if I can get off Pirates Tides of Fortune long enough. Thanks.

LC. out.

 

[Sunder]

So you didn't end up trading for that bike of questionable providence?

I don't know if police have enough time over there, but over here, every bike has a serial number on the bottom bracket. If you record it, and the bike gets stolen, it goes into a database, and if it ever turns up either as stolen property or abandoned property, then police can hand it back to the owner.

A huge number of bikes which are considered "abandoned" are returned that way. Someone steals it, uses it to get to the station or whatever they're doing, just leave it there, and after a couple weeks, the train station staff notice it's not locked up, and will send it to police impound.

So over here, taking an "abandoned" bike is no excuse. It'll still be treated by police as stolen property, because its so easy to return to its rightful owner.

A mate of mine had a $12,000 racing bike stolen. Full carbon, automatic shift, aero wheels, everything. He used to race for Australia, so every year, Giant just give him a free bike so he can be photographed racing it. Police found it abandoned at a station. If the thief had any idea what the bike was worth, no way would they have abandoned it. Had they been caught with it though, no way would police accepted the excuse that they found it abandoned, and it would go from petty theft to grand theft easily.

 

[latecurtis]

I don't really need the bike. I have way too many bikes now. It is still downtown in my friends basement. The Currie still sits in the back yard. I still may fix that up one of these days.

I did not get a chance to replace that variable controller but need to solder those parallel cables for Dans old LiPo packs. That will be my project for tonight. I need all the plugs to be the same as I may use the new 10.0 packs for either the Schwinn or the 24" bike when I want to run it at 44V.

I don't plan on running LiPo for the Diamond Back as the gearing on that with 800W is a little much. It makes it a deathtrap. 36V of SLA and under 15 mph is relatively safe operation for that bike as long as the roads are not slippery. I would not take that bike out in sand or dirt either because the front WILL spin out easily on that bike. The 24" bike with the rear wheel chain drive will be my winter bike and I may get snow tires for it. Thanks.

LC. out.

 

[DAND214]

$$$$$12,000???? Holy shit! I'm rather sure he didn't just let it alone. Or did he?
You can get a nice used car foe that, or a lot of LiPo

Dan

 

[marty]

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns. I am riding the Schwinn today.

Going downtown to see my friend. Probably watch a movie if I remember the firestick remote this time. Going to drink some beers.
My friend found a next abandoned in the sticks. I will look at it but not taking it home today. I guess he went to Stewarts with $20 in cans to return in the machine but machine was broken so he stashed them in the bushes. When he returned the next day to get them and turn them in the bag of cans was gone and the NEXT mountain bike was there. Sounds like a fair trade to me. Call me a thief if you like but my friend is totally broke and out of food stamps and goes to the city mission to eat this time of the month so as far as I am concerned it was a fair trade and I am buying my friend a six pack tonight for the bike but am leaving the bike there as I am riding the Schwinn. Thanks.

LC. out.

Stealing is not a acceptable practice anywhere on planet earth. Now go put that bike back exactly where you found it.
Thou shalt not steal

 

[Sunder]

$$$$$12,000???? Holy shit! I'm rather sure he didn't just let it alone. Or did he?
You can get a nice used car foe that, or a lot of LiPo

Dan

Apparently he left it on his balcony for 20 minutes after a ride. Gone in 60 seconds, as they say.

 

[DAND214]

What floor was it on? Did he get it back?

Dan

 

[Sunder]

What floor was it on? Did he get it back?

Dan

Yeah, got it back lightly damaged. He's on an elevated ground floor. So someone had to climb up a level to get it. He lent the wheels to me for a race, because Giant replaced it anyway - They just want him to be seen riding around on it. It really doesn't cost them that much to make. At that level, the current year model bikes have massive margins on them, because every tour de france fan wants one to commute to work, and it's almost a bragging right.

Over in Sydney, Cycling and Triathlons have over taken Golf as the corporate sport. Big deals no longer get done on the Golf course. They get done in a training ride - And if your equipment isn't keeping up, or you aren't keeping up, it's almost seen as a shame.

 

[latecurtis]

Stealing is not a acceptable practice anywhere on planet earth. Now go put that bike back exactly where you found it.
Thou shalt not steal

Where I found it ? Really Marty ?
If you read the posts I did afterwards I have never even laid a finger on that bike. I looked at it and that was it.
You may want to reread that post as I did not find anything bud. Also I have no use for a piece of junk NEXT. It is like my least favorite brand of bikes

 

[latecurtis]

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns. 150 pages strong! / Blind as a bat.

The 24" bike is back on the road. I replaced the variable controller today and went to the store to get beer with it and used the 16 AH - 6S pack.
I am recharging it now. I had a hard time finding the LiPo setting again. I am not running the 24" bike at 44V any time soon. Expecially with one front brake that barely works.

As for the old variable controller which comes apart easily I did not smell anything burnt. I did when I hooked it up backwards but not now. Also there is no evidence of anything burnt either so I am about to test it now with two SLAs and the 500W Unite motor I am not using. I will let you know soon if it still works or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFd7bhI1Ksw&feature=youtu.be

BLIND AS A BAT !!!

I had it hooked up backwards twice and when touched the gater clip to the terminal the motor flopped around and almost fell off the counter. :lol:
Finally I brought the light over to where I was working and got it right.

Basically after all that abuse and it still is functional it says something about the quality of the product. I have not saw a more durable controller since the one I ran when it was on fire. :lol: Thanks guys for posting.

LC. out.

 

[DAND214]

LateCurtis wrote:
BLIND AS A BAT !!!

Hey, that's my line! For real

Dan

 

[latecurtis]

I have not rode the 24" bike awhile now.

got a bubble in tire. front bad seal. Will take pic tomorrow.

Doug stopped over and got new tire and rim 4 $10.

I need to stop playing pirates long enough to change it.

I gave Doug the 80T #25 sprocket to line it up with a freewheel so I can build the 20" bike that had the 2 by 4 . I got the 24V 500W motor and 36V 800W motor .

 

[latecurtis]

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns.


The 36V 800W Unite motor turns 2750 rpm at 36V
At 48V rpm = 3666
power = 1200W

Gearing with 11t motor and 80T wheel 20" wheel= #25 chain sprockets = 30 mph.

The thing is the chain and sprocket need to line up perfect like when i built the Currie. First few pages of post. Test proven about two years.

I need to put it on the back though so if the chain breaks or pops off it wont flip the bike.

The #415 chain is good for front 2 by 4 type builds and limited to 36V and 25 mph. It is test proven NOT to pop off at 20 + mph speeds.

To make a 20" build with the 2500 rpm 500W motor a 18 " wheel is needed with the #410 motor and 56T wheel sprocket. 26 mph is the gearing. about 30 with a 20" wheel.

The 36V motor will need a 24" mountain bike. Not the 24" I got now that needs the new tire.. That is my cargo bike.

Hopefully it will be up and running soon. Thanks.

LC out.