Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

[brumbrum]

I have got a green and a red liddle and also soldered together wire coming out of M22 (4-Pin) adaptter from my Max-E. What is this good for? I have heared about a guy who has destroyed his controller by touching with these liddle wires the controller..

Is it maybe for the on off key?

Yes, they are a positive and ground for you to make an on/off switch. Be careful, ii think it has the full battery voltage coming from it. It will spark!

 

[snejky]

Hi. My friend have a problem. His Adaptto doesn't turn display background light on.(only 1 blink at start) Button reactions seems to be OK and working. What is solution for it? All wiring is OK. Controller is brand new. Sorry for my very bad English.
Video: https://youtu.be/22_NIl6Xxng

 

[brumbrum]

Any Russian speakers know what the last question is on the registration page of the Russian forum? I have tried to register using google translate but it will not allow me to access the register page whilst using it. Its the question underneath where you enter the automatically generated letters.

Register page... http://electrotransport.ru/ussr/index.php?action=register

 

[ridethelightning]

also having trouble with my russian

can anyone confirm what the message looks like when you successfully write the firmware to sd card?

i get a message in russian(not the error message i think) but not sure if it means the fw has been written on card or not.

dont want to try to flash to test incase its not on there and i lock it up somehow..

 

[Quokka]

also having trouble with my russian

can anyone confirm what the message looks like when you successfully write the firmware to sd card?

i get a message in russian(not the error message i think) but not sure if it means the fw has been written on card or not.

dont want to try to flash to test incase its not on there and i lock it up somehow..

Post a photo of the message and I will get it translated- I have a Russian guy at work.

 

[ccmdr]

snejky - Bit of an obvious one, but have you been into the 'Inferface - Display Brightness - 'No/LO/HI'? Also check out out the screen contrast settings that appear when in the setting before installing a new firmware - checkout here .

ridethelightening - Don't quote me on this as its been a few months since doing the firmware upgrades, however I'm sure when you have an unsuccessful flash the Adaptto display starts counting 0-100% and instead of reaching 100% it comes up 'CRC error' or the like. Also, if it does fails due to a read error of the SD card (most likely reason for the issue) then as with most flashing of mobo, gpu and phone bios etc... you effectively have a 'bricked' unit until you have a successful flash.

Simply power cycling the Adaptto unit without an SD card fitted will indicate a good/bad flash .

 

[ridethelightning]

also having trouble with my russian

can anyone confirm what the message looks like when you successfully write the firmware to sd card?

i get a message in russian(not the error message i think) but not sure if it means the fw has been written on card or not.

dont want to try to flash to test incase its not on there and i lock it up somehow..

Post a photo of the message and I will get it translated- I have a Russian guy at work.

Thanks Quokka
ill work on that, unfortunately i somehow formatted my SD card I use in my camera by trying to flash firmware, and now my camera doesn't like it anymore
i also wanted to just use google translate but i could not highlight the russian text to copy and paste it across unfortunately..

 

[snejky]

snejky - Bit of an obvious one, but have you been into the 'Inferface - Display Brightness - 'No/LO/HI'? Also check out out the screen contrast settings that appear when in the setting before installing a new firmware - checkout here

Thank you. I've flashed new firmware and after factory reset lights up. This is first time of my adaptto experience. Thank you for patience. :-D

 

[snejky]

Hi. Can someone share settings of adaptto MaxE and QS205 v3 extra 9kv please? I have strange problem. In autidetection motor spins very slow with noise, then little faster with noise, and then sometimes randomly starts shuttering(to different direction). Motor never reached 75% speed (according to manual). Adaptto says: successful. We try to turn throttle in normal mode. Motor throttle reactions is working nice, smooth and silent without any problems ( with wheel of the ground). Regenerative brake is OK too. I have fear of possible accident. What do you think? Thanks!

 

[brooklands]

also having trouble with my russian

can anyone confirm what the message looks like when you successfully write the firmware to sd card?

i get a message in russian(not the error message i think) but not sure if it means the fw has been written on card or not.

dont want to try to flash to test incase its not on there and i lock it up somehow..

Maybe this helps: Yesterday I was succesful in writing the firmware to the SD card. Unfortunately I did not make a picture of the message. I think the the message consisted of 3 words and no numbers (all error messages I got before had numbers like (No. 00)).

Unfortunately the firmware update did not solve my actual problem. I still cannot save the throttle limits for a longer period. I have to re-adjust them after every restart. Did anyone have this problem before? Any suggestions?

 

[ridethelightning]

also having trouble with my russian

can anyone confirm what the message looks like when you successfully write the firmware to sd card?

i get a message in russian(not the error message i think) but not sure if it means the fw has been written on card or not.

dont want to try to flash to test incase its not on there and i lock it up somehow..

Maybe this helps: Yesterday I was succesful in writing the firmware to the SD card. Unfortunately I did not make a picture of the message. I think the the message consisted of 3 words and no numbers (all error messages I got before had numbers like (No. 00)).

Unfortunately the firmware update did not solve my actual problem. I still cannot save the throttle limits for a longer period. I have to re-adjust them after every restart. Did anyone have this problem before? Any suggestions?

thanks, i think that does help, as the message i got was similar, (small window below sd writer window, 3 words,no numbers)
but came up so quickly after pressing "write" (in russian) that i was sceptical that it had actually done it, but praps thats because the file being written is so small?

re. throttle limits resetting- thats really pesky! i would have expected firmware update to sort that.
Have you contacted Oleg to ask for answers?
try pm andreym, he is also helpful

 

[ridethelightning]

also having trouble with my russian

can anyone confirm what the message looks like when you successfully write the firmware to sd card?

i get a message in russian(not the error message i think) but not sure if it means the fw has been written on card or not.

dont want to try to flash to test incase its not on there and i lock it up somehow..

so I took a deep breath and tried to flash, was successful! thanks all for the help.
i was just sceptical as the little message comes up almost immedately after pressing the 'write' button on the adaptto exe writer.
cheers.

 

[Jonboy]

Hi All,

November last year I purchased my second Max-e. The unit has performed perfectly on my sons firstly 3525 then a cromotor powered Raptor. We swapped bikes for a while sunday & during my ride on it the bike stopped and the display is showing "HALLS".

The Health monitor says HALLS: 000, H0 C00 These values do not change if I push the bike. And the Vhall : 0.53v/002ma The voltage measured at the halls connector while plugged in is even less.

I Haven't tried connecting to the spare cromotor halls as there's not enough voltage so i'd assume it's pointless.


Guys.. thought i'd put this up here just incase I'm missing something I'm thinking it's the resistor fail, but I think I'd need to short something out for that... Any thoughts guys?

I'm waiting for a response from Adaptto at the moment

Thanks

Jon

 

[ridethelightning]

sounds like you got a short on the halls supply wires somewhere, prolly blown the resistor.

 

[Dibul]

Dear Andrea,

We've checked your controller and it works 100% correct. Please find the video attached showing its perfect operation.
It means that the problem definitely lies in your motor, perhaps it is faulty hall sensor, or wrong sensor type (there should a set of 3 digital hall sensors) etc.

Please write me your full name, mailing address and phone number for shipment.

As for a spare throttle connector: unfortunately we've got only male parts spare (not male+female) so there is no sense in sending you only one part of the connector.

Best regards,


--

Best regards,

Oleg Kucherov
Sales and Marketing Manager
Adaptto E-drive Lab. Ltd.



I say.. LOL

 

[wannesd]

For my commuter I have ordered a mini-E, to drive my mac geared hubmotor.

1) As I understand it, in order to show correct speeds, I need to wire in an external speedsensor (same as I had to do with my lyen controller).
2) BUT, it needs to be wired to the regen wire, meaning I lose all ebrake cutoff functionality??
3) Losing ebrake also means losing the only way to turn of cruise control??
4) On top of that, I think I read somewhere that even with the external speed sensor, speeds were not always correctly read with these types of hubs?

If someone could tell me whether all theses statements are through, that would be great.
Maybe it's time to search another hubmotor if that's the case...

 

[ridethelightning]

also having trouble with my russian

can anyone confirm what the message looks like when you successfully write the firmware to sd card?

i get a message in russian(not the error message i think) but not sure if it means the fw has been written on card or not.

dont want to try to flash to test incase its not on there and i lock it up somehow..

so I took a deep breath and tried to flash, was successful! thanks all for the help.
i was just sceptical as the little message comes up almost immedately after pressing the 'write' button on the adaptto exe writer.
cheers.

I just want to conclude this story here...
I was trying to flash firmware to solve an issue with a max-e that was limiting power to around 50%.

all my settings were correct and the controller had worked well at first, as it should with over 12kw peak

but then limited power to ~6kw max for no apparent reason.
Contacting adaptto support, they were also puzzled by the strange power limiting.
On the russian forum,i noticed a post by the engineer , Jeka, who's said he had made improvements to the firmware i was running to, amongst other things, stop an issue with overcurrent limit coming on unnecessarily.
http://electrotransport.ru/ussr/index.php?msg=807960

btw, system reset did not fix the problem.

after successfully flashing the latest firmware RC9e, the issue seems to have stopped, with full power now restored.

just thought id clarify this for any others who might experience this problem with firmware RC9d


cheers
RTL

 

[Wheazel]

After 4000km on the cargobike I decided to flash for the newest firmware in my maxE today.
The reason was that I finally installed the pas for the eco mode. In the previous flash version, the brake wasnt forcing a pas stop.

However, after writing down all the numbers to restore them after the flash and reset, the bike now behaves slightly different.
In normal mode when I pull upwards of 30A, the motor "hesitates" just as it loses sync and then resumes power again. Have to let off the throttle to avoid this.
Never encountered this with the old firmware from any driving I have done.

What could be up with this? Everything about the flash seemed to go as intended.
Is it important do do a full reset after a flash? A video by bu Artur Ragulskiy on YT states this, so thats what I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fLU3REh_Q

 

[Wheazel]

For my commuter I have ordered a mini-E, to drive my mac geared hubmotor.

1) As I understand it, in order to show correct speeds, I need to wire in an external speedsensor (same as I had to do with my lyen controller).
2) BUT, it needs to be wired to the regen wire, meaning I lose all ebrake cutoff functionality??
3) Losing ebrake also means losing the only way to turn of cruise control??
4) On top of that, I think I read somewhere that even with the external speed sensor, speeds were not always correctly read with these types of hubs?

If someone could tell me whether all theses statements are through, that would be great.
Maybe it's time to search another hubmotor if that's the case...

Cant confirm this 100%, but your points align with what I understood when first using a nonhub motor on my cargobike.
I never went for an external speedsensor for this reason, I just removed the freewheel for the motor to be able to use regen, and see the speed.
Still a very choppy solution and not very good.

 

[Cowardlyduck]

after successfully flashing the latest firmware RC9e, the issue seems to have stopped, with full power now restored.

just thought id clarify this for any others who might experience this problem with firmware RC9d

Thanks for this RTL.
I think I may also have this problem as I have been seeing issues where my HS40 will start reducing power as it gets warmer, but nowhere near hot. I thought it was the Adaptto unit trying to predict the motor's temp in the absense of a temp sensor, but I don't think it can actually do this.
A firmware bug makes more sense, so I will try flashing firmware to the latest soon.

Cheers

 

[ridethelightning]

After 4000km on the cargobike I decided to flash for the newest firmware in my maxE today.
The reason was that I finally installed the pas for the eco mode. In the previous flash version, the brake wasnt forcing a pas stop.

However, after writing down all the numbers to restore them after the flash and reset, the bike now behaves slightly different.
In normal mode when I pull upwards of 30A, the motor "hesitates" just as it loses sync and then resumes power again. Have to let off the throttle to avoid this.
Never encountered this with the old firmware from any driving I have done.

What could be up with this? Everything about the flash seemed to go as intended.
Is it important do do a full reset after a flash? A video by bu Artur Ragulskiy on YT states this, so thats what I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fLU3REh_Q

Yes, full reset after flash. recommended by adaptto support, and their engineer also.("or you catch bugs"they say)
maybe try again and reset after flash, but it has been said that reflash of the same firmware version may not be possible.....(edit, sorry, i see now you did do reset)

in this case you could try going to an older version before flashing the rc9e again or wait for the next one to come out.

 

[wannesd]

For my commuter I have ordered a mini-E, to drive my mac geared hubmotor.

1) As I understand it, in order to show correct speeds, I need to wire in an external speedsensor (same as I had to do with my lyen controller).
2) BUT, it needs to be wired to the regen wire, meaning I lose all ebrake cutoff functionality??
3) Losing ebrake also means losing the only way to turn of cruise control??
4) On top of that, I think I read somewhere that even with the external speed sensor, speeds were not always correctly read with these types of hubs?

If someone could tell me whether all theses statements are through, that would be great.
Maybe it's time to search another hubmotor if that's the case...

Cant confirm this 100%, but your points align with what I understood when first using a nonhub motor on my cargobike.
I never went for an external speedsensor for this reason, I just removed the freewheel for the motor to be able to use regen, and see the speed.
Still a very choppy solution and not very good.

I can remove the freewheel from inside the mac?
That would in fact solve all my problems!

 

[Wheazel]

After 4000km on the cargobike I decided to flash for the newest firmware in my maxE today.
The reason was that I finally installed the pas for the eco mode. In the previous flash version, the brake wasnt forcing a pas stop.

However, after writing down all the numbers to restore them after the flash and reset, the bike now behaves slightly different.
In normal mode when I pull upwards of 30A, the motor "hesitates" just as it loses sync and then resumes power again. Have to let off the throttle to avoid this.
Never encountered this with the old firmware from any driving I have done.

What could be up with this? Everything about the flash seemed to go as intended.
Is it important do do a full reset after a flash? A video by bu Artur Ragulskiy on YT states this, so thats what I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fLU3REh_Q

Yes, full reset after flash. recommended by adaptto support, and their engineer also.("or you catch bugs"they say)
maybe try again and reset after flash, but it has been said that reflash of the same firmware version may not be possible.....(edit, sorry, i see now you did do reset)

in this case you could try going to an older version before flashing the rc9e again or wait for the next one to come out.

I did flash to the MAX-E | RC-9G3 released april 5th 2016. Where can I find older firmwares?
I am worried to ride the bike now that it behaves differently. Afraid I might damage the controller.

 

[ridethelightning]

I got rc9e from the tech support page a couple days back, but i see its been changed already.

 

[Xtr6]

Got some heat problems with my cro motor v3.
It al starts even in the eco mode. Temp. rising towards 50 C.
In the normal mode temp. is going toward 90 C. And in the boost 120 A- 250 A it's going toward 135 C.
I did a few auto runs but have still the heat problem. Further is the Raptor a beast but I can't ride long with these high temp.
And that is just a waste of FUN.
Ho had the same problems and solved this heat problem.