Custom Build... 2 Speed H.O.B.O Powered e-Cruiser

[AussieJester]

Seriously mate, can't wait to see this one dun thru!

When are you going to do a big frock&halls motor build so's you can keep up with Doc and the 40mph+ club? LOL

Looking fantastic, look forward to the next update!

HAHA... actually, the bike will be a lil faster than first planned, the 45 tooth chain ring
i bought was incorrect bolt pattern (my mistake) so we now have a 43 tooth on the rear
will increase top end a lil :lol: Was geared for 45mph top end (with 45tooth chain ring) so
40mph is no problem, but i'm really not interested in the least in going
faster than 50-55mph on a bike equipped with bicycle wheels, besides the fact
superior acceleration is what i'm interests me, 0-50mph in quickest time possible
one one wheel preferably LoL :wink:

AJ, I just finished reading all 133 pages of posts on both the cruiser and this new build (took me a day and a half on and off).
You, sir, are both a blessing and a curse!

Great to hear you enjoyed the worklogs Rick, i wish you well on your new addict... uhm..."hobby"

On this build, I see some work from:

Thud
Matt
Timma
1000W

and of course AJs fab work.

It's like watching an all star game

Absolutely correct there TPA :wink: Hopefully we will get a half decent bike
together as a result of the 'mixed' minds involved hehe... I thank all those that have
helped out on this build, one of the great things about this hobby are the people
and the support given when needed...

I have been holding back on updating this worklog as i wanted all the parts that were
ordered to land .... well... i have had ALOT of deliveries since my last post.. perhaps a few
pics of the goodies -->

Matt.P and I combined our orders together and manged to make the free freight
offered by from Chain Reaction on all orders over $us440 was delivered in 5 days
CR absolutely RoXz no doubt about it.

Keen eyes may see there are more than 2 sets of Hope Mono M4 Brakes :wink:
Big thankyou once again to Recumpence for his continued generosity & support
of my projects... expecting to find a disk brake sprocket adapter when i opened the box from Matt.S
there i was left shocked, starring at mint conditioned set of Hope Mono m4s and a 180mm Saw floating rotor!!!
I tried to order a friend for it from Chain Reaction unfortunately they were out of stock of M4s
so..off to ebay just happened to be a pair of second hand Hope Mono M4s up for grabs, i won them for $US203
cost me 220 to my front door for the pair of Hope Mono M4s in near mint condition! Matt's
will find a home on the front of the bike and one of the second hand jobs will handle the rear
both fitted with Hope braided lines...The third will be a spare until i or one of my cohorts needs
it. Oh...and yes, the Hope calipers will also be receiving some anodized bling Items, damn
Rodgah and Timma2500 pointing out more and more 'bling' that i can buy all
the time curse them both LoL... After chating with Timma yesterday arvo
when he dropped in, seems we both have the same bling and lightening hole "addiction" although
we both admit we can stop when ever we want...yeah right HAHA

I asked Matt.P to stand over the bike, this gives a good indication of the bikes
size, pics of the bikes on their own tend to give you the impression they are
bigger than they actually are...Cheers Matt... :wink:

I guess i best tell you all the ending of the seat sagga...as some may remember
33 days IIRC? after payment the seat had made it from Throttle Masters
in Chicago, to UPS in Mexico! After several polite emails to George
at Throttle Masters to which i received no replies, along with Matt.S actually calling them up
and hassling them to get the act into gear OH and a PayPal claims case stared, i finally
received an email yesterday morning from George apologizing for the delay (now 40 something days since payment)
informing me the seat cleared Australian customs yesterday evening! i was
gob smacked i had written it off and was set to buy the second choice seat tomorrow (payday)
I am glad i waited and chuffed it eventually turned up, this seat is just the ticket, suits the bike to a tee.
Still haven't attempted to sit on it though,k looks like it will be ok... :: crosses fingers:: :wink:

So all the parts received have been installed (cept the manual pedal chains...) bought two
cheaper 1/2 links for the manual pedal side need to join them to get the length. My mate
Flavio was also over yesterday, after a few JD's he decided the decals on the rims (and Tires) had to go,
So he pulled the decals off the rims (TPA add "Flavio" to list of helpers LoL) unless the
companies are willing to pay me money to advertise for them, their stickers will find there
way into the bin quick smart :wink: also notice, its rolling on PUMPED UP TIRES!!
(Lettering stillto be removed)

I shall install the seat fittings and pivot tomorrow (more of my handy
routering of alumnium to come using the lovely gift of milling bits from ES member Valy)
I will be using sealed bearings on the pivot mounted in 10mm ali plate...more
to come tomorrow evening, we are BACK on track.... Manual pedal bike will
be up and running soon as the seat is mounted!!! Matt.P or Paul...available
for a test ride LoL... After the seats mounted up i can finish the stabiliser arms
now i have the tubes/tires pumped up and know the exact ride hieght, with Christmas
shutting alot of places down, i will likely hold off for few weeks on ordering all the
batteries and speed controller<---yes speed controller, amongst the deliveries i
received from Mr Edward Lyen a tester unit, hopefully the hassles i have had finding
the correct order of halls, phase and throttle wires will be thing of the past, i will try
to ride the bike within the capabilities of the Infineon it will have fitted until such times
i get my paws on one of Mr Jeremy Harris's new controllers :wink: ..

Back soon chaps...

KiM

P.S Since there are a few regular readers of this worklog that are into the custom
thing, thought you might all be interested in Timma2500's latest endeavor, Paul will
be pumping out altered downhill frames, i suggest those that aren't familiar with Timma2500's
work checkout his latest effort on a Specialised FSR frame and/or the
custom fabrication on his Norco The work is first class, I expect there will be a few people bashing
at his door to get a custom frame happening. Best of luck with your new business buddy...

 

[HAL9000v2.0]

You should open the art gallery. 8)

 

[Hyena]

Flavio was also over yesterday, after a few JD's he decided the decals on the rims (and Tires) had to go

JD inspires greatness. Those bright flashey stickers have no place on a bike like yours. My double tracks will be promptly be destickered when I get around to doing more work on that bike.

Good to see progress mate. So, are we good to go for a test ride for xmas ?

 

[deVries]

Thats about it for now...any thing not covered above ask me and i'll be more than happy
to answer any questions...

Back soon with update...

KiM

Thanks for the offer to answer any questions. 8)

Just one question:

What is the actual wheelbase of your bike?

(From your initial diagram or CAD by hand drawing it shows you were shoot'n for about 1330mm, but you may have a different actual number considering the hand-built nature of this beast & mod changes during the actual build.)

Thanks, mate.

 

[AussieJester]

Flavio was also over yesterday, after a few JD's he decided the decals on the rims (and Tires) had to go

JD inspires greatness. Those bright flashey stickers have no place on a bike like yours. My double tracks will be promptly be destickered when I get around to doing more work on that bike.

Good to see progress mate. So, are we good to go for a test ride for xmas ?

LoL... wait till you see me with a few JD's in me HiGHSiDE I get a lil 'loud' and the shit stirring intensity increases 10 fold will make sure there's a cartoon of JD and Dry in the fridge and a six pack in me
when you visit...

And YES i will make the "ride by Christmas" well...i wont, but one of the mates will, shall be a 'pedalable' bicycle in about 2 hours or so today, shall get some video of the first ride for you :lol:

Just one question:

What is the actual wheelbase of your bike?

Apologies deVries i totally forgot to measure the wheelbase and bottom bracket to rear hub when you pmed me for the info yesterday, i had every intention to pop out to workshop and get the details and as often happens when on the net....got distracted ... the wheelbase ended up a lil longer than planned at 1430mm the bottom bracket too rear hub length i believe you were after also? is 790mm. Hope this helps again my apologies for the delay

KiM

 

[etard]

There ain't nothin HOBO about this beast Kim, you have really nailed it, enough so that I expect to see some real media coverage on this street whip. Do you have any plans for some nicely done lettering ( HOBO) for all to see? Seems like all the builds on par with yours have this, no?

Well it's a festivous Christmas miracle that your seat is actually still on it's way, I guess you're not on Santa's naughty list after all!

I have been waiting sooooo long for an update here, I'm glad it all came through. Might I suggest also removing the lettering on the forks?

Those handlebars certainly have some teeth to grip into, no rotation here!

 

[AussieJester]

There ain't nothin HOBO about this beast Kim, you have really nailed itMight I suggest also removing the lettering on the forks?

The H.O.B.O stands for High Output Brushless Outrunner...and yes the decals will be removed from the fork, i will
be fitting shortened spring set and new Enduro Seal kit before final assembly...

I decided to stick with the more 'traditional' pivot setup rather than getting fancy with sealed bearings
the amount of movement is so slight regular dab of molybdenum grease in the pivot and it will outlast me LoL..anyways
here's some pics of the alumnium pivot assembly i knocked up this afternoon.

I have ~6meters of 15mm rod so i cut a 60mm length and drilled it out with 10mm drill bit, this piece will
be welded into the top tube of the frame a 10mm
high tensile steel bolt through it will complete the
pivot setup. I have used 10mm & 5mm thick alumnium
for the rest of the assembly. Obviously the pieces still need to be cleaned up, polished & anodized blue. I will need to
make another bracket tomorrow, to mount on the seats
rear mounting bolts (which FYI are not lined up they
are1/2in out of alignment :-S ) The lil shockies will then mount to this ali bracket.

Back with more soon...i am off in mates boat to do a bit of fishing first light tomorrow, so will likely not get alot done on the bike unfortunately , so next update will likely be Saturday, Boxing Day i'm off to the drags for a Nitro Funny Car meet looking forward to
that i must say ... :lol:

KiM

 

[dingoEsride]

Those nitro funny cars are pretty aws but pretty LOUD bring your earmuffs

Yeah right, have a good day fishing and all

and good to see you got yer seat

 

[AussieJester]

Those nitro funny cars are pretty aws but pretty LOUD bring your earmuffs

Yeah right, have a good day fishing and all

and good to see you got yer seat

I always take my ear plugs to the drags, i spend alot of time in the pit
area watching/takin pics etc.. up close to un-muffled revving V8s without
ear protection is just silly. Nitro funny cars are insane, anyone thats not
seen one up close run a 1/4 mile your missing out, the sound, the earth moving the flames
and the smell [/Hommer Simpson Druel]

Off to bed up early tomorrow...

KiM

 

[TopCat]

Looking good Kim...

Glad to hear you got your seat problem sorted out. I like the subtle little blue bling touches on the rotor nuts and dustcaps :wink:
Tight lines for your boat trip.

Regards
Tom

 

[AussieJester]

Glad to hear you got your seat problem sorted out. I like the subtle little blue bling touches on the rotor nuts and dustcaps :wink:
Tight lines for your boat trip.

You might be amazed at all the anodized lil bitz and pieces you can buy for this bike stuff good lord
is there nothing that hasn't been made of alumnium and anodized for me to buy :-| aaaagh.....off to
drill some lightening holes in something to relieve the frustration

Should be a lovely day on the water only 33C (91.4F) perfect weather IMO after 33 its starts getting
lil uncomfortably hot outdoors, few coldies, some fishing lil swimmin... it's a hard life
but as they say, "Someone has to do it"



KiM

 

[etard]

The H.O.B.O stands for High Output Brushless Outrunner...and yes the decals will be removed from the fork, i will

Yes, I understand what HOBO stands for on your build AJ, but here in the USA a hobo is basicly a bum that hops trains and begs for change. :x

I hope that doesn't change the name, cuz I like it...

 

[Thud]

I am a huge hobo fan LOL.
Ever see "Emperor of the North"?
Its an an old Lee Marvin classic with a young Ernest Borgnine as a conductor throwing hobos off his train. I recomend it to everyone. Add that to your play List Kim. great flick.

 

[AussieJester]

HAHA shall do ThudSTaR 8) I had a great afternoon doing something you love mate-->



Unfortunately plans of working on the bike upon returning home quickly diminished when
5of my mates decided we would have a "Christmas drink" Like we need an excuse :lol:
As a result no work was done on the bike and AJ remembers little of the afternoon, amazingly i
feel bright as a button this morning


Merry Christmas All...

KiM

 

[TPA]

I see a lipped crank bait. Love using those on the largemouth bass here in the southern U.S.

 

[1000w]

Merry Xmas Kim and all the ES crew.
Cheers,
Matt.P.

 

[mdd0127]

Those scare the fish away around here! When I'm not getting any bites, like to tie one of those on and just see how far I can cast it. It almost feels like there's something one there if you reel it in fast and pretend real hard.

The lake is ice skate-able for now though

 

[AussieJester]

I see a lipped crank bait. Love using those on the largemouth bass here in the southern U.S.

Yes we were lure fishing, that particular lure is a Scorpion Lure dives to about 2 meters has three barbed hook on the tail and another under it, the 'bib' at the front doesn't move or make noise, caught my first Tailor on a lure in the river yesterday when we did a lil trolling, caught 100's in the ocean but never on lure in the Swan. Yet to score an elusive Black Bream on lure though, i dont generally Lure fish from shore gets expensive with snags etc...least in the boat you can go and retrieve the lure alot of the times, casting into the snags is part and parcel of Bream fish whether using lures or not so you go out expecting to lose some 'terminal' tackle... Soft plastic baits are taking off BiG over here do you use them much in the USofA?

Merry Xmas to you and the family Matt And Merry Xmas to all ES members...

KiM

 

[Thud]

Soft plastics are #1 all over the place. I love the orignal twist tail grub on a decent jig head. just size for the fish you are searching for. Smallies love the tube baits...I still take more than my share of largemouth with a 6" black soft rubber worm.
I hear of guys making their own soft plastics now in their basments. I had a guy demonstraight the banjo' minow system one day out on a spring lake buyou...he had 5 strikes in 1-1/2 hours to my 3...I boated all 3, he landed 2 :lol: All large mouth bass. & my 3 didn't = either of the 2 he put in the boat.

Them Lipped baits are good for trolling. (we troll for norten pike & walleye in muskegon) But the Wife really loves her small blue rapalla minow baits in the trout streams. She will back crank the expensive little swiming bait right into the nasy snags & coax the prettyest brown trout in the creek into action.
I genneraly throw spoons in the fall for salmon off the local peir heads.

Now get out in the garage with them elves & build us a bike to drool over already....

 

[AussieJester]

Now get out in the garage with them elves & build us a bike to drool over already....

What ya think the chances are of that happening this afternoon ThudSTaR 8) Thats 102.2F
in the old language you USAians use hehehe...first thing in the a.m before she gets hot i will be at it mate :wink:
The whole bike has to be stripped to the frame will likely wheel it inside my garage where its air conditioned
and get it stripped come morning can carry the frame out to the workshop and weld the brackets and pivot in
place oh and the brake caliper mount

KiM

 

[TopCat]

With photos like that and most of us under 3ft of snow....

Im sure the Ozzy buggers rubbing it in. Just look at him sitting there all grinning, stripped down to his t-shirt, arse hanging out his trousers he's that hot. ...and to boot has has a cold one at hand, lucky bugger. :wink:

Roll on summer.

Regards
Tom

 

[TPA]

Soft plastic baits are taking off BiG over here do you use them much in the USofA?
KiM

We here in Texas even have our own way of rigging them

Texas Rigged:

Them Carolinians felt left out, so they made themselves a rig.

Carolina rigged:

And for when fish get lazy in the dead of summer, there is the good ol' wacky worm. It requires a rod that can cast 1/32 oz lures typically used with a spinning reel like you are using in the photo.

Wacky worm:

Happy fishing, and Merry Christmas.

 

[AussieJester]

I have been fighting both fish AND this seat mounting the last few days now, I didn't notice
before hand but the the rear spring mounting bolts on the seat pan are exactly 4mm out
of alignment, doesn't sound alot right? but that 4mm creates a BiG problem at the other
end of the 4inch shock mounting bracket :-S Interestingly the seat has a quality control
sticker on it, has been signed by the person that made it AND the individual
in charge of "QC" (who obviously needs his frocking eyez checked)

(middle drilled/tapped hole is for the mounting of a rear reflector/light)

I have used a 10mm thick piece of alumnium to make a bracket that will both 'fix' the
factory bumble on the seat, and allow a narrower footprint for shock mounting. Originally i
had planned to drill directly into the seat stays and mount the shocks, the offset of the
mounting bolts on the seat put paid to that idea, the mounting points on the seat stays would
of both been different as would the shock angles..besides this, the gap between the seat pan
bolts is 7in the distance between seats stays ~6.5in either way, i needed to make
a bracket...

i decided a combination gusset/shock mount setup would be
the best solution, I had planned on a gusset here to both reinforce the seat stays and provide
a mounting point for the planned wheelchair tow hitch assembly as per the blue cruiser has on it.

4mm steel plate was used and DAMN! is it hard steel! best mate Snapper hiked 3 pieces
of similar size from his works dumpster before we went fishing few days ago, it blunted
3 drill bits drilling the freakin holes in it, so NO there wont be 'lightening holes'
at this point, but yes i had planned on a couple, No idea what 'grade' steel it is but its hard.
I have 3 solid tacks holding this gusset/mount in place, i shall fully weld this
along with the reinforcement for the stabilizer pivot mounts tomorrow. I then have just a small
mount for the rear brake caliper to add and its frame prep time babee!

Too hot to mess about re-assembling the bike just for a pedal ride up and down the drive way HiGHSiDE
Hyena so you will just have to wait a lil longer for the powered ride

Controller... I have spoken to Mr Lyen on MsN and GWhy will be pleased to hear I
organized a highly modified 12 fet infineon to use until Mr Harris's controller
hits the shelf's, so to speak. Mr Lyen has been given several specific mods to make
that the ThudSteR has recommended i have done, the include the addition of 3077 Fets
(~75v 180amp) a 31v low voltage set up, 25-40 amp batt 100 amp phase
programming, along with raising the value of R43 from 1k to 47k ish to modify over
current cutout. I have also taken possession of a 'tester unit' from Mr Lyen & he
has also including 6 hall sensors of the same variety the bois are using on their sensored
Turnigy setups... THiS TiME MaYBE?!?@?#@!?# For those wondering why? not another
Castle Creations HV160, primarily i want halls on this bike as Jeremy's controllers
are sensored controllers, i want to get it setup so i can make a simple swap of
controllers when the time comes....price had nothing to do with it.


Back soon folkz...

KiM

 

[LI-ghtcycle]

Wow!! Now that is turning out beautiful!! Not that I had any doubt! :wink:

Keep up the good work! Gives me something to drool over while I figure out how to transplant my fairing (read totally re-design) to a different frame.

 

[Jeremy Harris]

Very nice work, Kim, in a way that duff seat stud spacing has made the design neater. Anyway, you can't beat a nice gusset.................

I think you'll be pleased with using a sensored controller. Certainly I'd not go back to sensorless having seen the low end performance that sensors give.

Jeremy