gas price thread

[JackFlorey]

Or the $15k Nissan Versa? ( pretty decent econobox )
https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/cars/versa-sedan.html

Ask me in 5 years, as I mentioned above.

As battery costs come down, and "new" cheaper technologies like LFP become more common, prices are going to continue to decrease. If they follow the same path they've been following they will be below $100 a kwhr by 2024. That means a small 60kwhr pack for $6000.

Everything else in the car can be very, very cheap. Inverters? Electronics can be cost-reduced faster than anything else we make. Motors? You can get a good induction motor for well under $1000.

The numbers do not add up for electric cars yet. The only thing i agree with you on, is that they will eventually make sense, only because battery technology scales like the computer processor - each generation is smaller, more powerful, cheaper, and longer lasting.

Agreed there.

 

[nicobie]

After fed and state rebates I paid a bit less than $17k after tax and licence for my first Volt. I charge it with my grid tied rooftop solar which paid for itself within 5 years. Having the plug-in hybrid help pay the solar off 2 years quicker.

 

[Hillhater]

Jack, i am sure, (as you are a well informed observer),..you know full well that SD was referring to the highly controversial, and very public cancellation of the operating permits for the Keystone XL pipeline,.....so why are you arguing trivial details over something you know was a true fact ?

As he mentioned, the Keystone (the original Keystone, the one that is operating now) was completed in 2016. It was not "immediately shut down" as he claimed. That is the opposite of a true fact.

Jack,.. you do yourself no favours,..squirming like a stuck pig over nothing.
Its a fact that that the Biden admin killed the Keystone XL pipeline.
...and is considering similar action on other pipelines also.

 

[JackFlorey]

Jack,.. you do yourself no favours,..squirming like a stuck pig over nothing.

Facts are, in your considered opinion, "nothing?" I shall keep that in mind when discussing things with you in the future!

 

[goatman]

diesels upto $2.15 liter, i burn about 400 liters a day,

WTF is wrong with you?

..... this shows how remote you are from the reality of keeping society going. !
Every one of those heavy haul trucks that bring your food and toys to your town , can burn double that amount each day.

no shit eh :lol: :lol:

 

[SafeDiscDancing]

Facts are, in your considered opinion, "nothing?" I shall keep that in mind when discussing things with you in the future!

Facts and Evidence are two very different concepts.

Evidence is the raw data which feeds the Critical Thinking "motor" to arrive at wisdom.

We literally must feed ourselves with raw data (Evidence) to the maximum extent possible in order to have the more extensive knowledge base when we generate Logic.

Grammar (Evidence), Logic (Thinking), and Rhetoric (Speech).

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The concept of a "Fact" was once something that could WITHSTAND UNLIMITED ABUSE and be found strong.

That standard of strength to withstand criticism is no longer part of our "Trendy Fact Checker" culture where a challenge to a "Fact" can mean someone gets censored or banned.

So as far as I am concerned in our age due to this corruption of the concept:

"Facts are meaningless."

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Evidence is still of high value however.

And if you do both and state an assumed "Fact" and back it up with "Evidence" and are not offended if a counter argument is raised then you are doing things correctly now.

Basically a "Fact" in our time... the word itself... has drastically declined in meaning.

The strongest argument begins with Evidence and we might say if your argument holds up then at the END we begin to dare call it a Fact.

A "Fact" simply dumped out into view with no support is truly just a bias, opinion or propaganda.

 

[SafeDiscDancing]

Its a fact that that the Biden admin killed the Keystone XL pipeline.

The first act of this lovable puppy president was to kill the final phase of the Keystone pipeline that was going to allow oil from the northern midwest states and Canada to be moved around.

All that oil was redirected to the Western ports and exported. (or simply was never extracted)

But the real problem I have learned is new regulations.

Mountains of new Red Tape have made drilling difficult and so the more accurate story is of government destroying the profitability of the business. (and really weird things like agencies usually onto something else get moved into making up new rules for the oil business)

So we can say with 100% certainty "The Government is to Blame."

But they did it in a way they could shift blame towards the drilling industry. (and the media repeats that narrative)

No one should be surprised we are at this place because our puppy said he was going to destroy the oil industry before he was put into the role.

 

[calab]

Now lets transport by truck and train, even more safe :lol: then a pipeline :lol:

 

[neptronix]

Here's some people who have a real and serious complaint..



Meanwhile Gasoline is up an entire 10% in Utah.

In Utah, we have an artifact of our local culture i like to call 'recreational idling'.
IE, you can walk out to nearly any parking lot here and, especially in the winter, hear a chorus of gasoline engines and people sitting in their gas-waster 9000's texting, staring into space, or contemplating life to the pleasing hum. This typically goes on for a minimum of 30 minutes, but i have seen people do it for hours.

The recreational idling is an all season activity. Many people, in the spring and fall, could simply crack a window to get a comfortable temperature, and turn the gas engine off, but instead, they keep it on, close the windows, and turn on the AC.

The recreational idling is going unabated while people complain about the 10% increase in the cost of gasoline. People will tell you they're approaching their pain point, but they're really not.

The above is what it looks like to be at your pain point.

 

[SafeDiscDancing]

THE THIRD OPTION

I was thinking about this last night...

Option One : "Blame Government"

This is the lazy and easy answer because the ruling regime had said before it occupied power that it planned to wreck the oil industry so they could 6uild 6ack 6etter. I mean there is no shortage of actual literal quotes to use as supporting evidence.

Option Two : "Blame Big Oil"

For this option you need to follow the propaganda that says that the ruling regime is innocent and blame exists elsewhere. Here you pile up a whole string of emotional arguments which paint the corporations as the bad guys. Maybe even throw in a few Virtue Signals about what a "good person" feels.

Option Three : "Blame Globalists"

For this you need more information than most gullible people are aware of. You need to know how Monsanto (Bayer) had corrupted the FDA to such a degree that their corporate executives would be at Monsanto one day and then placed at the top of the FDA the next. Another example recently was Pfizer whose executives got planted into the regulative agencies like the CDC or NIH. (I forget which)

Anyway...

In the "Third Option" the Government and Big Oil executives play a sort of "theater" where they play roles and act out a script which gives the people (who know little) the emotional experience of participation without any of the insights about the crimes going on behind the scenes.

My "guess" is when the dirt finally gets out THEY ARE ALL in on it.

Nothing is random.... the "Big Guys" in the "Big Club" know how to manipulate the "Suckers".

The "globalists" are creepy corporate psychopaths that have a tendency to enjoy perverted sexual behaviors upon innocence and also get into things far worse.

And nothing is new under the sun so this type of thing was talked about in the bible in that King Solomon got hooked up with the Baal and Moloch cults in 5000 BC. So while the names change over time the nature of power does not.

Deception of the rulers over the peasants has been going on for literally thousands of years.

 

[neptronix]

A better list of options:

Taking responsibility for your personal transport choices, chose environmentally friendly transport, and insulate yourself against the effects of petroleum price manipulation. Take all the money you saved, and use it for your own benefit.

Realizing that wars either for, or in regions that produce large amounts of fossil fuels is basically a constant in the world, and will continue to happen. Therefore, your own personal reliance of petroleum is a vulnerability.

Taking advantage of a forum filled with knowledge and experience in building clean, cheap transport, instead of using said forum to post your complaints about the 1,923,452,690th time that somebody in government did something bad that affected you.

 

[spinningmagnets]

Obviously, I am writing on an electric bike forum (*I have two of them).

I also have three gas burning vehicles. One of my top ten pieces of advice is to get a job close to home, or move close to where work is. (*I know, not always possible).

If my car broke down, I can ride the ebike, so I don't have to pay top dollar to a mechanic because "it HAS to be fixed right away". I can at least have the option to "try" to fix it myself first.

Also, living close means fewer miles on my car (*my Toyota truck is a 1991).

It saves hours off my life commuting, and money for gasoline.

 

[nicobie]

Yeah, If people spent as much time trying to fix their problems as complaining about them, we would be in a better place. One can't expect the government to do everything.

 

[Arlo1]

last 3 posts are great.

I laugh at gas prices.

-Arlin

 

[Hillhater]

.
...........
As battery costs come down, and "new" cheaper technologies like LFP become more common, prices are going to continue to decrease. If they follow the same path they've been following they will be below $100 a kwhr by 2024.

We went over this last week,..remember.
You have yet to explain how the Tesla S and Nissan Leaf , prices have actually increased over the last 10 years ?

 

[j bjork]

.
...........
As battery costs come down, and "new" cheaper technologies like LFP become more common, prices are going to continue to decrease. If they follow the same path they've been following they will be below $100 a kwhr by 2024.

We went over this last week,..remember.
You have yet to explain how the Tesla S and Nissan Leaf , prices have actually increased over the last 10 years ?

Prices probably wont go down, they just increase less.
What happened to ice car prices in general during the same time period?
I am almost willing to bet that they didn't go down :wink:

Prices will continue up with more advanced cars and inflation.
Ice cars also have the disadvantage of harder and harder demands on exhaust emissions that make them more expensive up to almost impossible to fulfill.

I think there is supposed to be a breaking point 2025, where electric cars will actually be cheaper ?

 

[speedmd]

100 mile range on lifepo4 pack and only $8500. Hongguang Mini. Anyone have one on order?
The shit storm is officially in full swing. :lol:

 

[Ianhill]

£10145 list price on the road delivery mileage.



Sub compact smaller car class £15000 with used mileage (most people payed closer to 20k) skoda have discontinued so this is now a cheapest of the 3 sister cars.

The used car market the price gaps grows plus the repair of the dreaded battery is just not worth a family getting stung with a paper weight until they spend tthousands on a leaf to get a new pack and that aint cheap, anyone who argues for an electric car has to have home access to charge it and the clean aspect of it depends on the grid which in most cases is cleaner but that a whole different can of worms.

 

[SafeDiscDancing]

We should distinguish between what was called "Smog" and what is regular CO2 the plants breathe to be healthy and green.

"Smog" was the thing back in the 1960's and 1970's that pissed everyone off because it made the sky brown.

Los Angeles in the 1960's had horrible Smog.

But today that's not as bad even in Los Angeles even though it's really bad down there.

Places like Bakersfield get it the worst because the air currents tend to trap nasty air next to the mountains.

All the auto pollution control has reduced "Smog" a lot and the Smog Check helps to keep the cars healthier because it's the failing car that produces incorrect ignition.

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But we do need to repeat this again and again...

PLANTS LOVE CO2

...we have overwhelming evidence that big dinosaurs enjoyed a greener world with more moisture and got really huge while the CO2 levels went up over 1000 ppm easily.

Plants need CO2 to breathe and grow greener with more of it.

And plants need sunlight too.

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So when one of these creepy psychopaths like Bill Gates says he wants to block the sun and reduce CO2 realize he isn't thinking about making a better world.

More like a 6uild 6ack 6etter world.

 

[DogDipstick]

THE THIRD OPTION







Nothing is random.... the "Big Guys" in the "Big Club" know how to manipulate the "Suckers".

The "globalists" are creepy corporate psychopaths that have a tendency to enjoy perverted sexual behaviors upon innocence and also get into things far worse.

Dammit. Sounds like something someone would say to a prison counselor. You ok? buddy? You need some help? ( just poking fun at your impressions.... dont take it personally)

Lol.

More like a 6uild 6ack 6etter world.

My company already made more money than you will probally ever see, building back a better world. For 30 years plus by now. Still, doing it, at 250$ an hour plus. Currently designing the cooling system for the ITER (the largest experimental tokamak nuclear fusion reactor in the world).

Thousands of scrubbers. A thousand plus.

Millions. Millions of dollars. Spent by governments, earned by BSECo. Cleaning the effluent. Fixing the problems. Paid in full.

last 3 posts are great.

I laugh at gas prices.

-Arlin

I laugh at the sound of a car driving by, with the cat removed ( stolen?). I laugh at the motif " I did that" sticker they then pulled the car up to to fill, and complain about the price of, filling. I laugh at peoples impressions ( they think that) that California requires lean combustion to keep within regulation and that is the gov't " purposefully destroying the vehicles so you buy another"....

I laughed at " Cash for Clunkers". Certainly.


I did not laugh when i saw the Michelangelo(s) and Donatello(s) melting from the Acid rain in Milan. Everyting that was not under a roof melted. Gone. It was bad. Very bad. All of them. Every one. Just a blob of dirty melted marble that was once cut from the finest of all of Europe.

All of them.

I did not laugh when I saw da Vincis " The Last Supper" with its mortar shell damage across its face. I distinctly remember that shelling damage. I remember standing there, with my mother, looking up at it.

I did not laugh when Chernoyble kept us from playing on the grass, drinking the milk, and kept the men with machine guns protectin The American School of Milan. For those seven months as the containment was built. This cancelled Italy's nuclear program rather quickly.

Some of the things I remember. In the impressionable mind of an child.








Greed. You cannot harbor destructiveness with your greed. Your lack of knowledge. Your unfounded impressions.

Shut up and pay.

 

[john61ct]

Such toxic brainwashing bubbles, literally poisoning our world, and our polity

 

[SafeDiscDancing]

Shut up and pay.

You should be aware that in these last two years of the Great Reset the top, top, top of the 1% got:

TEN TIMES RICHER

So unless you have no idea what is going on you should be very concerned with the accelerating concentration of wealth into the creepy globalist psychopaths that go to Davos, Bilderberg and the CFR to plot their agendas.

This is no joke and the evidence is abundant if you get off the television and outside the controlled social media areas where they censor everything.

Just look with your eyes.

Elon Musk is worried that if they choke off gasoline completely and crash the economy then no one will be ABLE to buy his electric cars.

So when even Elon Musk is saying this is going the wrong way it might be time to think about it.

 

[DogDipstick]

Shut up and pay.

You should be aware that in these last two years of the Great Reset the top, top, top of the 1% got:

TEN TIMES RICHER

So unless you have no idea what is going on you should be very concerned with the accelerating concentration of wealth into the creepy globalist psychopaths that go to Davos, Bilderberg and the CFR to plot their agendas.

This is no joke and the evidence is abundant if you get off the television and outside the controlled social media areas where they censor everything.

Just look with your eyes.

Facts and Evidence are two very different concepts.



Grammar (Evidence), Logic (Thinking), and Rhetoric (Speech).

I do not base the assertions i make, off of what I see, on " Social media".

I make the assertions, based on the money spent on, and the money earned by, the company my father owns, as I ride on his coattails. I do not make assertions based on what I think others have earned, or where the money went, I make assertions based on legal permits ( permissions) that power plants require to function. You say "Smog" and Co2" existed into the " '60s and 70's" .. I am saying it is still there. I dont care about your conjecture. I do not care about " who you think is getting rich".... Biden? Build back better? Hell, what Trump did to the power industry was absolutely disgusting. Absolutely. Thank God, Biden is back.

The Trump administration has replaced the Clean Power Plan, redefined critical terms under the Endangered Species Act, lifted oil and natural gas extraction bans, weakened the Coal Ash Rule, which regulates the disposal of toxic coal waste, and revised Mercury and Air Toxic Standards–just to name a few. He opened up the goddamn National Parks, to drilling, explicitly for the greed, of the American People.

The governments will always have more money. No matter who is getting rich. Most people on social media are not educated enough to make assertions, about a field of work, they do not work in.

Clean Power *is* a thing, and billions will be spent on it while you take the time to blame the " 1%". Because gasoline from the ground was never, ever... Renewable.

This is what I see with my eyes. Experience, not conjecture. Work, not social media. Work, that we have done, to save the planet, at your ( the citizens) expense. Short excerpt of our professional resume'. This is all work, that has been completed.

This is what I see. With my own two eyes. This. This work.

I saw the Acid rain. Destroying, the finest sculptures, you might have ever seen. That is what I am saying. I see the work, to preserve, the future generations sculpture, with modern technology, and science, friend. Based on the requirements of the DEP and the EPA, and the billions of dollars that will be spent on this.

• New York Dept. of Environmental Protection / New York Power Authority, Owl's Head
Wastewater Treatment Plant Projects-Provides Engineering plus inspection services for the rebuilding and
refurbishment of Large Diesel (Dual Fuel) generators. Engines are being rebuilt, fitted with Micro-Pilot injection
systems, plus receiving several ancillaries' upgrades. Critical service requirements for these machines requires
high reliability, in addition to the environmental benefits of burning digester gas which would otherwise be flared at the site. This work includes machinery diagnostics, supervision and participation in systems fabrication,
testing and commissioning, as well as fabrication and use of various diagnostic tools and QA measurement
fixtures.


• US DEP’T OF ENERGY, USDOE, ITER FUSION REACTOR PROJECT-Re-Designed the primary cooling
systems, and this redesign of the primary cooling system, to significantly increases reliability and simultaneously reduces system costs. Main heat exchangers mass reduced from 354 tons to 93 tons. Addressed numerous significant design challenges for this reactor which has extremely high thermal performance requirements.


• TERRA Power - Advanced Traveling Wave Reactor-Developed Natural Circulation Emergency Cooling
System heat exchanger configuration and details. Design features incorporated to allow modular construction,
inspection and maintenance access, complete draining, and novel radiation heat transfer features.


• Modern Power Plant Engineering Course Developer and Instructor.-Developed and conducted
corporate sponsored training courses for engineering personnel. The training currently consists of an 8 hour
introductory course, and a 30 hour course over a 15-week period, introducing power plant technologies
including basic thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, heat transfer, FGD, water treatment and other topics. Plant
specifics for relevant equipment and various systems are covered, explaining the configurations and technical
aspects of modern power plant design. Typical calculations and analysis methods are also covered. Authored
a small hardbound book at the direction of the corporate CEO, describing the workings of power plants and
alternate technologies. Thousands of these books were distributed to every employee within the Power
Division.


• Holtec International, Marlton, New Jersey. -Developed test plan, supervised fabrication and
conducted Full Scale Thermal Performance Testing of Dry Fuel Storage System (HISTAR Cask). Detailed
analysis, design, and fabrication supervision for all Dry Cask Ancillary Fluid Systems, Cooling Skids, etc.
Designed dual purpose Heat Exchanger, using boiling liquid Nitrogen to provide storage cask Helium cooling,
and alternately serving as a steam surface condenser, cooled by chilled water, which allows efficient
dewatering of spent fuel casks. Designed special hot-tap valves allowing hermetic access to loaded spent fuel
containers for various loading and unloading cask operations.


• Taiwan Power Corp., Lungmen Units 1 & 2, Nuclear Plants-Owner's Engineer providing oversight for
modifications to 9 stage 2000 horsepower safety pumps which failed site performance tests prior to fuel
loading. Work included fast track evaluation of proposed changes to pump internals to restore specified
performance, assessment of proposed modification methods, including CNC machining operations and EDM
rework of fluid flow passages. Witnessed rebuilt pumps' performance tests, identified anomalies relevant to
intended service conditions and functional requirements.


• GdF SUEZ, Monterrey Combined Cycle/Cogeneration Project, 180 MW-Accumulation of flammable
non-condensables in a large air cooled condenser resulted in a plant explosion, with loss of life and destruction
of large sections of the plant’s air cooled condenser. As part of the plant evaluation and remediation team,
suggested forced air dilution of the HRSG to maintain acceptable tube metal temperatures while allowing
limited operation during the repair process. Participated in facilitating the rapid installation of this system.
Developed Air Cooled Condenser Inerting System, which includes a large flow nitrogen purge capability, with
steam heat to vaporize and pre-heat the liquid nitrogen source. This system is necessary to allow nitrogen
purge while simultaneously avoiding NDTT issues with the air cooled condenser.


• Tennessee Valley Authority, Gallatin & Shawnee Fossil Power Stations FGD/SCR
Projects-Provides project guidance to develop economical draft system retrofits for AQCS installations. Work.
includes modification to duct arrangements allowing lower costs and reduced flow friction. Develops large duct
turning vane criteria, participates in scale model and CFD simulations used to prove acceptable function.
Developed Fan capability test procedures and participated in plant ID/Booster Fan Performance Tests for both
sites.


• Public Service of New Hampshire, Merrimack Units 1&2 Clean Air Project-Developed a novel AQCS
Booster fan arrangement with large recirculation ducts to allow adequate control of the draft system at very low
flue gas flows. This departure from common practice was required as a single unit (120 MW) was required to
operate with flue gas flow into a scrubber that is rated for 500MW capacity.


• We Energies, Valley Power Plant, Cogeneration Plant Coal to Gas Conversion-A large cogeneration
plant (4 coal fired boilers, two automatic extraction turbines) supplies heating and process steam to the City of
Milwaukee, being converted to natural gas firing. Performed transient analysis for the entire district energy
system to discover available options, allowing operation with fewer boilers in fired standby conditions, and to
allow shutdown of turbines when prudent. Developed rapid startup system allowing startup of unfired standby
boilers in less than 30 minutes, compared to previous operations which required several hours to bring an
unfired boiler to rated pressure.


• Reliant Energy, California Coastal Plant Alternative 2 x 750 MW (Ormond Beach), and 2 x 215
MW (Mandalay)-Developed conceptual designs for large ocean submerged circulating water heat exchangers,
allowing sea water cooling with the pre-existing sea water intakes converted to closed cooling circuits, thereby
addressing 316B cooling water issues. Very large undersea heat exchangers, utilizing natural circulation of sea
water over HDPE tube banks, were conceptually developed with provisions to protect the equipment from
commercial and recreational marine operations, and be suitable for most economical fabrication and
placement on the sea floor.


• Detroit Edison, Monroe Generating Station, 730 MW, Coal-Fired Units, Monroe, Michigan.-Developed
flue gas ductwork arrangement, providing two Axial Booster Fans with high elevation mounting which
significantly reduced overall expense, and improved pressure drop in new ductwork. Participated in definition
of ID Fans/Booster Fans operating requirements. Participated in FGD Booster Fan specification, evaluation
and vendor selection.


• RRI Energy, Hunterstown, Bighorn, Choctaw, and Seward Projects. -Mechanical Consultant for task
force reviewing technical aspects of Steam Condensers (Air Cooled and Water Cooled) and Feedwater Pumps
of several plants under construction. The Reliant Critical Equipment Evaluation Program is conducted to
preclude typical delays experienced during startup and initial operation of new plants. Work included review of
design parameters, installation practices, vendor meetings, and operational concerns for each piece of critical
equipment.


• RRI Energy, Seward Generating Station, 580 MW, CFB Unit, Seward, Pennsylvania.-Consulting
Engineer. Reviewed Draft System sizing and performance capabilities. Participated in ID Fans vane
replacement efforts, including technical reviews and initiation of stress condition improvements for replacement fan vanes. Conducted flow analysis study for Circulating Water System which experienced severe pump damage due to throttling conditions of winter operation. Developed alternate bypass arrangement allowing reduced winter cooling tower flow without throttling pump discharges. Performed miscellaneous water systems analysis to determine operating conditions of clarified water system.


• RRI Energy, Cheswick FGD Power Project, 630 MW, Coal Fired, Springdale, Pennsylvania-Mechanical
Engineer. Responsible for developing new FGD booster fan criteria for fan specifications.Participated in design
criteria development, fan bid evaluations, etc. Developed reverse order fan arrangement. New Booster Fans
precede existing ID Fans which significantly reduced new FGD ductwork expense and pressure drop.


• RRI Energy, Portland Generating Station, 180 MW, PC Unit, Portland, Pennsylvania-Consulting
Engineer. Participated in Reliant efforts to diagnose turbine water induction damage at the plant and
implement required changes to procedures and startup systems during the spring outage. Developed drain
sizing criteria, tested existing drains, and detailed new turbine outer casing drains which were added during
this short duration outage. Novel methods to analyze the physical phenomenon occurring within the turbine
casing were developed, including use of the EPRI GOTHIC computer code. Post outage startup proceeded
without water induction problems.


• Allegheny Energy, Hatfield's Ferry and Fort Martin Stations, SO2 Reduction Project, 5 x 630
MW, Coal-Fired, Masontown, Pennsylvania -Mechanical Engineer. Responsible for participating in the
development of design criteria, ductwork and fan arrangements, flue gas pressure drop evaluations, etc. Fan
bid evaluations, review of CFD modeling results.


• We Energies, Pleasant Prairie Power Plant, Air Quality Control Project, Pleasant Prairie,
Wisconsin, Mechanical Engineer. -Developed flue gas ductwork arrangements to improve gas flow and
constructability of new Wet FGD installation. Developed flue gas pressure distribution profiles and definition
of ID Fans/Booster Fans operating requirements. Participated in FGD Booster Fan specification, evaluation
and vendor selection. Evaluated existing lake water makeup system for new FGD water supply requirements.


• Johnson Controls, Schuylkill Station, 250 MW, Combined Cycle, District Energy. -Developed
conceptual design and complete system detailed design for a new full load dump condenser which accepts all
HRSG energy from a 150 MW Combustion Turbine. The dump condenser is entirely dry air cooled and allows
rapid startup of the Combustion Turbine without warm-up of the attached steam cycle. The condenser system
is designed to allow startup in less than 15 minutes, for ambients ranging from 0°F to 90°F, with no preheating
and no standby energy losses when not in use. System has been installed and operated successfully.


• DTE Energy Services, ISPAT and Sand Sage Projects. Conducted Mechanical Due Diligence
Reviews of proposed new projects: ISPAT is an existing 200 MW industrial cogeneration plant with five
coal-fired boilers and two non reheat turbogenerators. Review of existing power cycle equipment, replication
work on piping to address creep in main steam high temperature piping, plus development of conceptual
design for cooling system and condensers of a proposed new turbine.


• The Sand Sage project considers installing a new 660 MW Supercritical Coal-Fired Plant at an
existing 350 MW plant site. The site was originally designed for 3 x 350 MW coal plants. Review included
examination of all relevant shared facilities, coal unloading, storage, crushers, conveyors, ash handling and
disposal, water supplies, water treatment, FGD storage and handling, and new cooling system needs.


• Detroit Edison, Belle River Generating Station, Two 660 MW, Coal-Fired Units, Belle River,
Michigan. Conducted plant efficiency evaluations for turbine cycles and boilers. Evaluated condenser
performance, and auxiliary load reduction potentials. Evaluated high leakage rates in Rothemuhle type Air
Heaters, developed air heater inspection tools, leakage quantification spreadsheet programs, and Air Heater
Seal replacement/renewal maintenance techniques. Variable speed drive study for auxiliary loads.


• Wisconsin Energy, Elm Road Generating Station, 660 MW, Coal-Fired Units, Oak Creek,
Wisconsin. Supercritical Pressure steam cycle development for new coal fired plant. Performs Heat Cycle
Development and Optimization, Steam Turbine Generator technical evaluations, and Steam Generator
technical evaluations. Also performs various related mechanical engineering tasks, including cooling system
optimization and design development.


• Exelon Corp., Mystic and Fore River Stations, Three 900 MW, Combined Cycle Plants, Exelon
Project, Boston, Massachusetts. Balance of plant engineering and design for plants (Mystic and Fore River),
2 on 1 Combined Cycles with three pressure HRSG, reheat steam cycles. Provided fluid system flow network
analyses for Closed Cooling Water, Fuel Gas, Main Steam, Hot and Cold Reheat, LP Steam, Bypass Steam
System, Gas Turbine Combustor Cooling System, and entire Condensate and Feedwater Systems. Defined
flow capability requirements for all major system control valves. Defined relief valve and control valve sizing
for all BOP services. Developed natural circulation model of Fin-Fan Coolers. Interfaced with equipment
suppliers to finalize plant design parameters and design philosophies. Developed standardized fluid system
calculation methods for use throughout projects.


• PECO Energy Co., USX Steel Station, 70 MW, Landfill Gas-Fired Cogeneration Unit,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Consulting Engineer for Landfill Gas Conversion Project. The project consisted
of a new landfill gas compressor station, gas delivery pipeline, combustion control system and low NOx
burners retrofit.


• Daewoo Corporation, Korba Station, Two 500 MW, Coal-Fired Units, Seoul, Korea. Cognizant
Engineer for development of client training lecture series, Power Plant Technologies. Training consisted of 37
sessions, each of two hours duration to develop the engineering skills specific to central station design.


• Pennsylvania Electric Co., Shawville Station, Four Units, 650 MW, Coal-Fired, Johnstown,
Pennsylvania. Performed evaluation study to determine benefits of supplementing river flow with upstream
reservoir water inventories. Low river flow limits summertime plant output at this station. Developed analysis
model and computer program simulating interactions of plant exhaust steam, condenser and circulating water
system performance, river flow and temperatures, with cooling pond recirculation providing additional heat
rejection capabilities.


• Midwest Generation, Homer City Supercritical Coal-Fired Unit, Mechanical Engineer. Provided
diagnostic review of plant incident which resulted in damage to 750 MW coal-fired steam electric plant
(Homer City) main feed water pumps during startup. Provided analysis to define feed pump NPSH conditions
during transient conditions.


• Atlantic Electric Co., Missouri Avenue Thermal Station, Pleasantville, New Jersey, District
Energy System. Cognizant Engineer for development of Atlantic City Convention Center Hot and Chilled
Water Systems. Work includes conceptual design development, cogeneration options evaluation, design and
specification of gas/oil-fired boilers, vapor compression chillers, pumps, piping, customer interface, etc.


• Baltimore Gas & Electric, Deepwater Station, 95 MW, Coal-Fired Unit, Wilmington, Delaware.
Developed thermal power cycle utilizing existing site plant equipment to provide new generation capacity.
Work involved alteration of existing automatic extraction units to feed the low-pressure elements of cross
compound machines which were out of service.


• Atlantic Electric, B. L. England Station, Unit 2, Coal-Fired Unit 2
170 MW, Pleasantville, New Jersey. Mechanical supervising engineer and project technical coordinator for
flue gas desulphurization project. Responsible for detailed engineering and design of draft system conversion
to balanced draft, specification and evaluation of new I.D. fans. Provided detailed design of building heating
systems and mechanical services for service building and gypsum storage building.


• Atlantic Electric, Vineland Station, Two 80 MW, each Simple Cycle, Combustion Turbines.
Mechanical supervising engineer for balance of plant systems. Work included engineering and design
specifications, bid evaluation and construction support activities for fuel oil truck unloading, oil storage, fuel
forwarding, underground piping systems, foam fire protection, water supply, demineralized water storage and
natural gas compressor station.


• Atlantic Electric, B. L. England Station, Unit 3, Oil-Fired Unit
170 MW, Pleasantville, New Jersey. Performed inspection and diagnosed efficiency losses within the
turbine cycle at B.L. England Unit 3. Work involved survey of the thermal cycle to identify deviations from
original parameters, and evaluation of heat rate changes due to these deviations. Positively identified an
asymmetrical blockage in the unit’s low-pressure turbine, causing reverse flow in an extraction line. This
blockage was later identified as a diaphragm that had been installed backward during the previous outage.


• Metropolitan Edison Company, Portland Station, One 150 MW, Simple Cycle, Combustion
Turbine, Reading, Pennsylvania. Balance of plant engineering and design for the installation of a Siemens
V84.3 150 MW, combustion turbine generator at Portland Unit 5. Services include development and
finalization of plant conceptual design parameters and design philosophies; BOP mechanical systems design
development for the procurement and installation of all systems supporting the combustion turbine operation.
Work included fuel oil tank renovation, fuel supply (gas and oil), demineralized water pumps/piping, double
wall drains/containment piping, drain tanks etc.


• Metropolitan Edison Company, Titus Station, Three 75 MW, each Coal-Fired Units. Mechanical
Supervising Engineer for new plant reverse osmosis (R.O.) system, vacuum degasifier and condenser makeup
spray deaerating system. Developed low cost makeup water deaeration scheme which allowed elimination of
nitrogen blanket system and nitrogen generators.


• Florida Power Corp. Crystal River Unit 2, One 500 MW, Coal-Fired Unit, St. Petersburg,
Florida. Provided diagnostic review of plant trips that had caused damage to 500 MW coal-fired steam
electric plant. Provided analysis to define limits on feed pump rotational acceleration. Discovered strong
suction vortex problems in the deaerator storage tank, coupled with plant controls response which promotes
flashing and loss of feed pump NPSH after a plant trip.


• Exelon Project, Eddystone Plant, One 360 MW, Supercritical Coal-Fired Unit, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania, Mechanical Engineer. Cognizant of design development, specification, and detailed
engineering for new plant water intake system utilizing wedgewire screens. Work included development of
underwater screen assembly mounting and removal methods, and screen spatial arrangement to minimize fish
Entrapment.


• Exelon Corp, LaSalle Unit 1 Nuclear Plant. Consulting Engineer conducting a large study of
cooling system alternatives in anticipation of plant uprate, with criteria of eliminating forced plant runbacks
during summer conditions. A single large cooling lake is provided for two nuclear units. Study evaluated
helper towers, spray ponds, lake expansion, etc. Evaluation factored in the actual hourly ISO electric pricing,
giving proper perspective of the real economic penalties associated with warm weather runbacks.


• General Atomics, Next Generation Nuclear Plant. Consulting Engineer developing thermal
cogeneration cycles and fluid systems for this small modular reactor design. Introduced novel concepts to
allow natural circulation cooling of various systems, and to allow use of existing technologies in place of
special equipment that had originally been envisioned for this plant design.


• U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Comanche Peak, Unit 1, Washington, DC. Consulting
Engineer for USNRC audit and inspections of design documents relating to plant safety concerns at Comanche
Peak Unit 1, a 1215 MWe PWR. Responsible for review of auxiliary feed water, containment spray,
component cooling water, service water and diesel generator auxiliary systems.


• Niagara Mohawk Power Co., Nine Mile Point, Syracuse, New York. Developed test procedures
and conducted analysis to demonstrate sufficient cooling capacity in safety related systems which had failed
technical specification flow requirements at Nine Mile Point Unit 1, a 610 MWe BWR.


• Consolidated Edison Co., Indian Point, Unit 2, New York, New York. At Indian Point Unit 2, and
873 MWe PWR, evaluated turbine plant/BOP systems capability to allow 100-megawatt increased rating.
Parallel efforts were performed by Westinghouse to upgrade reactor thermal rating by about 300 megawatts.
Work included numerous systems evaluations, as well as condenser performance evaluation.


• New York Power Authority, Indian Point, Unit 3, Buchanan, New York. Developed interactive
computer programs to demonstrate design basis heat exchanger performance in safety related cooling
systems. This is accomplished by testing equipment at off-design conditions and adjusting heat exchanger performance according to the deviation in flows, inlet temperatures and heat load.


• Public Service Electric and Gas of New Jersey, Salem Units, Handcocks Bridge, New Jersey.
Developed First Principle Modeling Computer Codes of Safety Related Vapor Compression Chillers. Codes
used to predict response to cooling water transients during LOCA conditions (Hope Creek).


• Wisconsin Electric Power Company, Point Beach Nuclear Plant, Two Rivers, Wisconsin.
Designed and supervised fast track test loop construction, and testing of Containment Fan Coils under LOCA
conditions with steam/air condensation. Less than 30 days from authorization to begin detailed design to
completed test. Test loop with steam saturation chamber, demister sections, 16 inch forced loop piping,
computer data logging system, spray recirculation and cooling pumps.

...

 

[DogDipstick]

We should distinguish...

"Smog" was the thing back in the 1960's and 1970's that pissed everyone off because it made the sky brown.

Los Angeles in the 1960's had horrible Smog.

But today that's not as bad even in Los Angeles even though it's really bad down there.

Places like Bakersfield get it the worst because the air currents tend to trap nasty air next to the mountains.

All the auto pollution control has reduced "Smog" a lot and the Smog Check helps to keep the cars healthier because it's the failing car that produces incorrect ignition.


More like a 6uild 6ack 6etter world.

Smog?


.... Cars? " Incorrect ignition?".... the ' auto pollution control " did this?

Thought the EPA, DEP, and the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission was responsible. Huh waddyou know. Dumb me. Thankyou.

Smog? has been gone for 40 years plus? Huh. Did not know that. thought I saw some the other day. My eyes must have been mistaken, .

I wonder what is holding it back.

Its still bad in China. Maybe they should get some Electric Cars or something, a few effluent flue gas scrubbers, ? maybe? Do you have any of those we could sell? ...or at least some sort of pollution control. Given, .. the " facts". Sounds like a reasonable direction to go.

Do you know anyone in China I can propose this to? Eh? Maybe some governmental political organizations like a " lobbyist"? Do they have those in "Chy-Na? Catalytic converters? I got a pile out back, maybe we can ship em to those poor SOBs, over in China. Eh? You think?

Good thing we are not affected by this " Chy-Nah" place, . Evr.

We all know, its a fact, that what happens over there, does not affect the good'ol USofA.



https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=China+smog

 

[CONSIDERABLE SHOUTING]

100 mile range on lifepo4 pack and only $8500. Hongguang Mini. Anyone have one on order?
The shit storm is officially in full swing. :lol:

I mean... If the crash safety protection wasn't my frocking femur :lol:

For real tho, I've always kicked around ideas of how cheaply you could make an EV for American sensibilities- even down to the Chinese Lead-acid battery powered vehicles- and have them still NOT be shit, or grossly undermarket. Like, sell someone a skateboard chassis with hub motors and have them tick off boxes on a list like what Canoo wants to do. Make the 2CV of EVs!

You should be aware that in these last two years of the Great Reset the top, top, top of the 1% got: TEN TIMES RICHER So unless you have no idea what is going on you should be very concerned with the accelerating concentration of wealth into the creepy globalist psychopaths that go to Davos, Bilderberg and the CFR to plot their agendas. This is no joke and the evidence is abundant if you get off the television and outside the controlled social media areas where they censor everything. Just look with your eyes. Elon Musk is worried that if they choke off gasoline completely and crash the economy then no one will be ABLE to buy his electric cars. So when even Elon Musk is saying this is going the wrong way it might be time to think about it.

Anytime each sentence is split apart for emphasis, you know the post has some REAL crackhead energy behind it. Seriously yo, smog is "fixed"? What insulated bubble do you live in lmao? And what are you even doing about this shit? Don't say riding an eBike, personal actions ain't gonna stop a cities worth of CO2 being spewed into the atmo by a shipping vessel unless your "personal action" involves LOTS of explosives.

You conspiracy lads always act like you have hidden knowledge that nobody in society understands or could fathom- We know the rich benefitted from COVID greatly, But if you really want to change shit against these frockers you need to give the actual respect the issue deserves, and not just be a screaming head on the internet demanding other people do it for them.