Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

d8veh said:
I have a question about the Speedict Venus.
The BH E-motion Neo is speed restricted. It uses a hall speed sensor in the motor to get the speed. I'm guessing that it pulses at about 5 times for each wheel revolution, but it could be faster.

Could the Speedict Venus slow down the pulsing like it does with the Bosch?
What is the maximum frequency of pulsing that it can handle?


It is impossible to modify hall signal even we can capture and intervene 3 hall signal but once the timing is shift or change, the motor will not start !
 
d8veh said:
I have a question about the Speedict Venus.
The BH E-motion Neo is speed restricted. It uses a hall speed sensor in the motor to get the speed. I'm guessing that it pulses at about 5 times for each wheel revolution, but it could be faster.

Could the Speedict Venus slow down the pulsing like it does with the Bosch?
What is the maximum frequency of pulsing that it can handle?

Thanks d8veh for help us out, on behalf of all E-motion ebikers, We salute you...:)

32kph will have to do for now.
 
speedict said:
d8veh said:
I have a question about the Speedict Venus.
The BH E-motion Neo is speed restricted. It uses a hall speed sensor in the motor to get the speed. I'm guessing that it pulses at about 5 times for each wheel revolution, but it could be faster.

Could the Speedict Venus slow down the pulsing like it does with the Bosch?
What is the maximum frequency of pulsing that it can handle?


It is impossible to modify hall signal even we can capture and intervene 3 hall signal but once the timing is shift or change, the motor will not start !
I think you misunderstand me. Some motors have an additional speed sensor output, so there are maybe two signal wires from one hall sensor. One is used for speed measurement and the other is used for motor timing control. I don't know why they use two wires. Maybe there's an additional hall sensor for speed measurement. I think your Speedict Venus can read this second speed measurement pulse on one pin and output it from a different pin at a different speed, and send it to the separate speed measurement system, which is independent from the normal motor timing control. These motors have the normal 5 hall sensor connections plus an additional white wire for speed measurement. I think that the speed measurement software is in a separate LCD display module, and it's that that sends a signal to the controller to regulate the maximum speed.
 
Melbourne said:
d8veh said:
I have a question about the Speedict Venus.
The BH E-motion Neo is speed restricted. It uses a hall speed sensor in the motor to get the speed. I'm guessing that it pulses at about 5 times for each wheel revolution, but it could be faster.

Could the Speedict Venus slow down the pulsing like it does with the Bosch?
What is the maximum frequency of pulsing that it can handle?

Thanks d8veh for help us out, on behalf of all E-motion ebikers, We salute you...:)

32kph will have to do for now.
I'm not finished yet. I'm sure it could work. Even if it doesn't at the moment, It would be simple to change the Speedict software to do it, or any other microprocessor.
 
d8veh said:
I think you misunderstand me. Some motors have an additional speed sensor output, so there are maybe two signal wires from one hall sensor. One is used for speed measurement and the other is used for motor timing control. I don't know why they use two wires. Maybe there's an additional hall sensor for speed measurement. I think your Speedict Venus can read this second speed measurement pulse on one pin and output it from a different pin at a different speed, and send it to the separate speed measurement system, which is independent from the normal motor timing control. These motors have the normal 5 hall sensor connections plus an additional white wire for speed measurement. I think that the speed measurement software is in a separate LCD display module, and it's that that sends a signal to the controller to regulate the maximum speed.

theoretically YES, you need to locate 2 separate wires !
 
If you go to the last page of this document you will see that there are four wires.

http://www.thun.de/fileadmin/user_u.../0044_Montageanleitung_X-CELL_GB_20120626.pdf



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The four wires being:

Wirecolor Description
Black: Ground
White: power supply
Grey: Torque signal
Brown: Sinus signal
Blue: Cosinus Signal

The installation document says the following :

The sinus and cosinus signal is used to detect the rotation direction and cadence of the X-CELL spindle and must
be adapted to the programming of the controller. Important to know is if you are changing from a K-version to a
L-version the signal of the rotation direction is also inverted.

With the CA v3 you can connect these wires to it and it will give power to the motor accordingly. How can you achieve this with the speedict?
 
speedict said:
ecologymagnet said:
Is it possible a Speedict for more than 80V in the near future?

Will be sold In the near future new products?

Thank you.

the voltage limit of speedict mercury is 80v, up to this moment we have no plan for higher than 80v, sorry about that.

We went through a method of using higher voltages with the speedict by tapping a different pack voltage point to supply speedict, and keep current sensing same.
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/download/file.php?id=96014
 
megacycle said:
speedict said:
ecologymagnet said:
Is it possible a Speedict for more than 80V in the near future?

Will be sold In the near future new products?

Thank you.

the voltage limit of speedict mercury is 80v, up to this moment we have no plan for higher than 80v, sorry about that.

We went through a method of using higher voltages with the speedict by tapping a different pack voltage point to supply speedict, and keep current sensing same.
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/download/file.php?id=96014

oh ! yes, thank you.
 
@ d8veh

The reason for the additional hall sensor e.g. on the Xofo motors is the freewheel inside the motor.
When cycling without the motor engaged, the hall sensor signal of the motor is not usable because the motor is not turning (at the same speed as the wheel)

Therefore they have an additional hall sensor.
 
Hi all.

Im wondering how people set up the speedict to monitor battery charge left? a simple icon indicating this would be fantastic! or does this exist and Im just too much of a noob to find it?

Also, Is it only possible to view a log with a "map route" via connecting the device with USB to a windows machine? be great to be able to do this with the downloaded csv data online somewhere (all the info is in the csv file, just no easy way of viewing position and data at the same time.)

So far, my experience with the mercury has been great. Its been very useful for testing my setup and knowing how it is performing. I dont have a windows machine so its a bit hard to view the data as I describe above, but short of that once I get that going I'll be a very happy man. Being able to know exactly the location of which my bike was producing particular data is invaluable. Im sure this will ware off once I get it set up how I need it too. At that stage, I just need to know the basics, namely how much juice is left on the battery.

Thanks

Dave
 
vfxmorley said:
Hi all.

Im wondering how people set up the speedict to monitor battery charge left? a simple icon indicating this would be fantastic! or does this exist and Im just too much of a noob to find it?

Dave

do you mean battery icon display battery level with remaining percentage % ?

vfxmorley said:
Also, Is it only possible to view a log with a "map route" via connecting the device with USB to a windows machine? be great to be able to do this with the downloaded csv data online somewhere (all the info is in the csv file, just no easy way of viewing position and data at the same time.)

Dave

we have similar feature before, but closed recently :(

http://chart.speedict.com/?weblogid=ccE381001113811
 
speedict said:
do you mean battery icon display battery level with remaining percentage % ?

Yes, a battery icon would be great!!

speedict said:
we have similar feature before, but closed recently :(

http://chart.speedict.com/?weblogid=ccE381001113811


That chart is PERFECT!!!!!! why is it closed? this to me seems like its a great selling point for you. a HUGE market difference, especially if you can upload the data to an online server! even if its temporary, you dont need to store the data for ever

dave
 
Hi Danny.

I guess what Im saying, when you look at what the others offer in an ebike monitoring product, yours offers a difference in terms of logging and post analysing (not sure if this is the case with all other products) of the data. This is pretty valuable for people that are building up these systems, they are all still a black art, and a lot are being built from kits. You need to be able to understand how the system performs and its a bit hard to do that whilst sitting on a bike digesting information whilst keeping your eye on the road (in the case of systems the are a realtime readout only). being able to look back after a ride and analyse the data is fantastic for me, as Im sure others, cause we can really drill into the performance, or sometimes lack of performance and try do something about it.

I think its worth considering re-instating such an offering.

Im sure others would agree?

dave
 
Hi All,

Got my Mercury couple day ago, I connect it through my system and all working well,
one thing though, the forward capacity count not responding, it always shows the same number
something like 0.12Ahr.

Michael
 
vfxmorley said:
Hi Danny.

I guess what Im saying, when you look at what the others offer in an ebike monitoring product, yours offers a difference in terms of logging and post analysing (not sure if this is the case with all other products) of the data. This is pretty valuable for people that are building up these systems, they are all still a black art, and a lot are being built from kits. You need to be able to understand how the system performs and its a bit hard to do that whilst sitting on a bike digesting information whilst keeping your eye on the road (in the case of systems the are a realtime readout only). being able to look back after a ride and analyse the data is fantastic for me, as Im sure others, cause we can really drill into the performance, or sometimes lack of performance and try do something about it.

I think its worth considering re-instating such an offering.

Im sure others would agree?

dave

upload directly from android client to our cloud server or display map together with logged data on android is under our feature list, in the future pc client only for firmware upgrade and bluetooth password !
 
ecologymagnet said:
What accessories includes Speedict?

Can I change between the limited mode and not limited mode?

Thank you.

yes it has, but can do it better, whenever you want legal, press its INSTANT LEGAL button to change it current function mode to ROAD LEGAL 2 mode, however when you need to change it back to say off-road you need to define your mode setting again.
as per speedict's information in order to improve or simplify it, they need to store function mode settings as profile, i think they are working on it.
 
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