Rafe said:There is absolutely nothing wrong now with walk assist as it is. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Rydon previously shared a picture of you and your hand cycle, on the first time the firmware worked on your coast brake motorjeff.page.rides said:Whoops, I pushed post before I was finished. Again I am truly grateful for everyone's help getting the coaster brake motor working correctly for riders with very little strength in their arms like me. I have thoroughly enjoyed getting to know version 20 and actually being able to use a coaster brake motor with this firmware for the first time.
I would like to know Is Alpha 10 is going to be available today?
I would love to give it a try tomorrow morning early on my next ride.
I'll try to add my perspective and suggestions and grateful thoughts in the future. As a quad, it takes me some time to either type out a message or use voice and then have to go back and correct everything that it does wrong.
Thanks, Jeff
Well I see your point safety first :thumb:buba said:Do you mean that it should use the assist level just before eMTB? That could be possible to fix but I am afraid that some users have really high values and could get surprised if accidentally on eMTB and enabling Walk Assist.
I understand the inconvenience you are trying to solve though!
EDIT: Have fixed the bug you reported! Thank you!
I don't ask for a new emtb level if for the most part what is there is fine. But if in your experiments you could try, just to see if it actually works and how it works ... so as not to exclude something without trying ...buba said:andrea_104kg said:Today I did 2 tests: installed the alpha 9 version on the 36v engine, obviously it works great. thank you!
Unfortunately the emtb is still bad for me :-(
Later I tried to power the 48v bike with a 36v battery. It becomes very quiet, it is still fully usable on the road. I think we are the only ones who can use different batteries on a central
Thanks again.
but a small test of emtb based on power mode, just to see if it works?
Very glad to hear that you had a great experience on the 36 V motor!
I am afraid to change the eMTB now because:
1. Users already use the current eMTB and some are satisfied.
2. I would need to create another eMTB based on power so users can switch between eMTB modes. This would take up more space and I am not comfortable to "borrow" more space when there are a lot more things to fit inside the motor controller.
It will be possible to further improve everything in the future. And then experiment with more functionality and different implementations! Imagine the difference the torque sensor calibration will have that Casainho is planning! So do not perceive the 0.20.0 as the final version. This project will always steadily improve and evolve!
I value the feedback from the community immensely! There will always be someone that thinks of something and then someone else thinks of another thing. And a third thing gets to be implemented that is perfect for all. Together we are slowly making the world's best firmware for the TSDZ2. Without the user suggestions and different views from everyone we would be nowhere close to the firmware we have today.
So I do hope you understand I respect your desire for a power based eMTB! It would be very simple to implement but it needs to go together with everything else planned. It will just take time and cooperation to make everything fit. For the time being, I truly hope you are satisfied with the Power Assist mode and that everything else is working perfectly for you!![]()
jeff.page.rides said:This is my very first post, I'm a quadriplegic and ride a handcycle with the coaster brake motor. I've been working with Rydon for 2 plus years, as we convert other handcycles and recumbent trikes for the disability community here in Utah and other states. I am so grateful for all those that have contributed to this opensource firmware, it's so much better than the factory firmware. Thank you, Buba, for starting version 20 specifically to address the coaster brake motor. As has been talked about previously the biggest problem was resistance to braking if you didn't pause before you try to apply the coaster brake. When it really became apparent is when you were riding uphill and needed to brake suddenly and the motor would go into reverse and start backing down the Hill. That is Scary!
Again I am truly grateful for everyone's help getting the coaster brake motor working correctly for riders with very little strength in their arms like me. I have thoroughly enjoyed getting to know version 20 and actually being able to use a coaster brake motor with this firmware for the first time.
jeff.page.rides said:I would like to know Is Alpha 10 is going to be available today?
I would love to give it a try tomorrow morning early on my next ride.
I'll try to add my perspective and suggestions and grateful thoughts in the future. As a quad, it takes me some time to either type out a message or use voice and then have to go back and correct everything that it does wrong.
Thanks, Jeff
andrea_104kg said:buba said:So I do hope you understand I respect your desire for a power based eMTB! It would be very simple to implement but it needs to go together with everything else planned. It will just take time and cooperation to make everything fit. For the time being, I truly hope you are satisfied with the Power Assist mode and that everything else is working perfectly for you!![]()
I don't ask for a new emtb level if for the most part what is there is fine. But if in your experiments you could try, just to see if it actually works and how it works ... so as not to exclude something without trying ...
Then the development can come or not come, no problem. However as you say I am very satisfied even so, I do not feel the real need since on my engine the power mode is already very very emtb![]()
andrea_104kg said:what will be the news in the alpha 10 version whose release was dated for today?
casainho said:Rydon previously shared a picture of you and your hand cycle, on the first time the firmware worked on your coast brake motorjeff.page.rides said:Whoops, I pushed post before I was finished. Again I am truly grateful for everyone's help getting the coaster brake motor working correctly for riders with very little strength in their arms like me. I have thoroughly enjoyed getting to know version 20 and actually being able to use a coaster brake motor with this firmware for the first time.
I would like to know Is Alpha 10 is going to be available today?
I would love to give it a try tomorrow morning early on my next ride.
I'll try to add my perspective and suggestions and grateful thoughts in the future. As a quad, it takes me some time to either type out a message or use voice and then have to go back and correct everything that it does wrong.
Thanks, JeffPlease keep enjoying cycling and help the others that also need this technology and knowledge.
elfnino said:Well I see your point safety first :thumb:buba said:Do you mean that it should use the assist level just before eMTB? That could be possible to fix but I am afraid that some users have really high values and could get surprised if accidentally on eMTB and enabling Walk Assist.
I understand the inconvenience you are trying to solve though!
EDIT: Have fixed the bug you reported! Thank you!
Then the only option is to let user to select Assist Level for the Walk Assist in eMTB mode..
I am glad that we have discussed this topic and I am pretty sure an elegant solution will pop up sooner or later .. this is just very minor inconvenience which can wait.
jeff.page.rides said:![]()
Thank you very much, Rydon will flash it for me tonight and I'll pick it up and be ready to ride in the morning and let you know how things go!
Search on Google from USB<->UART cable for Arduino. You will need to use the 3.3V version and connect from your PC to the 850C wires: go to wiki to find which ones are the UART tx and rx wires.josafrik said:I have read on github:
If you don't want to buy the original bootloader box from the manufacturer, you can always use any USBUART 3.3V, like the cheap ones used on Arduino. Also you will need to power the 850C with the battery power.
I live in Spain and it is expensive to buy from the United States with the possible payment of customs fees
Perhaps it has already been posted, but I can't find it, how is made the DIY bootloader to load the firmware on the P850C screen?
Thanks to the forum community
Jeff, I will share your story with my family so we all learn more about paraplegic and quadriplegic. Can you please share some more pictures of you riding??jeff.page.rides said:I am going to start by talking about who I am and what kind of physical strengths and weaknesses I have as a quadriplegic. By doing this it will be easier for all of you to understand the comments I make about the TSDZ2 and the awesome open-source software that's gonna make a life-changing difference for me and others with disabilities. And then from now on, I can just focus on the Awesome Firmware and ways it helps and ways to improve it.
On August 24th, 2015 I was mountain biking in Colorado and rode off a 6-foot drop I didn't see and broke my neck at C 6-7. Wow, a lack of concentration for just a few seconds can change your whole life. Before this time I rode mountain bikes 3 times a week and had been doing so since 1986.
When you see someone in a wheelchair or on a handcycle that has full arms and hands that means there an Amputee or a paraplegic that broke their back or some other cause. Their upper body works exactly the same as yours and they could build huge muscles. When you see someone in a wheelchair or on a handcycle and their hands don't work they are a quadriplegic and they broke their neck or some other cause. Their upper body is compromised in many different ways. Most of the time their heart and lungs never move past Idol so they can not do cardio which means it's very difficult to build muscle. The easy way to remember the majority of the time is a paraplegic =2 lower limbs doesn’t work correctly or at all and they broke there back. A quadriplegic =4 lower and upper limbs don’t work correctly or at all and they broke their necks. I luckily have biceps that work about 50% of a normal week person and triceps that work about 30% of a normal week person.
From the spring of 2016, I had searched the Internet worldwide and made phone calls many times trying to find a power-assist motor that would work with a coaster brake, that quads need because their arms are generally strapped on to the pedals because they have no grip. Then I found Mark (Rydon) the fall of 2017 at https://www.electrifybike.com/#/ and he was only a couple miles away right down the street. He told me he had a power assist that works with the coaster brake.
The TSDZ2 with its factory firmware did not work at all with week arms it was designed to work with legs. It would work when I had a short steep climb I could get up it without someone pushing me and that's about all it did. I accidentally turned it on a couple of times with my other arm pulling backward on the crank. That fooled the torque sensor into thinking that zero was actually a negative? After a couple of months of trial and error figuring out exactly what was needed. I knew the exact amount of pressure to put on the backward rotation to get the correct amount of power-assist.
If I didn't pull hard enough the power-assist wasn't strong enough if I pull too hard it was difficult to stop forward rotation. Without power assist my average speed was 5 miles an hour I could ride 25 miles in 5 hours. After I figured out the power assist I could ride an average of 15 miles an hour for 30 miles in 2 hours. Wow-what a difference, I called it maximizing my joy, others said I was cheating, but how can you cheat if you're not competing?
Mark and I have built handcycles with power-assist and XShifter to do all the shifting without all the cables and wires going everywhere. We have built them for the University of Utah's Trails program, Wasatch Adaptive Sports the National Ability Center and some personal handcycles for individuals. The programs help those with disabilities enjoy the outdoors by cycling, skiing, and other activities.
With this new open-source firmware, they can ride and have a power-assist that works correctly without having to pull back on the cranks the correct amount. Although if I just use the weight of my arm hanging from the crank in the backward rotation when I turn on the power assistit with the new firmware it works much better than if I just leave the cranks in a neutral position. We can now tailor the amount of assistance to meet the exact needs of each rider.
Below are some links to my Strava page so you can see how far and how often I'm able to ride!
Thanks for reading and trying to understand,
Jeff
https://www.strava.com/athletes/180753
https://www.strava.com/activities/2648226863
casainho said:Jeff, I will share your story with my family so we all learn more about paraplegic and quadriplegic. Can you please share some more pictures of you riding??jeff.page.rides said:I am going to start by talking about who I am and what kind of physical strengths and weaknesses I have as a quadriplegic. By doing this it will be easier for all of you to understand the comments I make about the TSDZ2 and the awesome open-source software that's gonna make a life-changing difference for me and others with disabilities. And then from now on, I can just focus on the Awesome Firmware and ways it helps and ways to improve it.
On August 24th, 2015 I was mountain biking in Colorado and rode off a 6-foot drop I didn't see and broke my neck at C 6-7. Wow, a lack of concentration for just a few seconds can change your whole life. Before this time I rode mountain bikes 3 times a week and had been doing so since 1986.
When you see someone in a wheelchair or on a handcycle that has full arms and hands that means there an Amputee or a paraplegic that broke their back or some other cause. Their upper body works exactly the same as yours and they could build huge muscles. When you see someone in a wheelchair or on a handcycle and their hands don't work they are a quadriplegic and they broke their neck or some other cause. Their upper body is compromised in many different ways. Most of the time their heart and lungs never move past Idol so they can not do cardio which means it's very difficult to build muscle. The easy way to remember the majority of the time is a paraplegic =2 lower limbs doesn’t work correctly or at all and they broke there back. A quadriplegic =4 lower and upper limbs don’t work correctly or at all and they broke their necks. I luckily have biceps that work about 50% of a normal week person and triceps that work about 30% of a normal week person.
From the spring of 2016, I had searched the Internet worldwide and made phone calls many times trying to find a power-assist motor that would work with a coaster brake, that quads need because their arms are generally strapped on to the pedals because they have no grip. Then I found Mark (Rydon) the fall of 2017 at https://www.electrifybike.com/#/ and he was only a couple miles away right down the street. He told me he had a power assist that works with the coaster brake.
The TSDZ2 with its factory firmware did not work at all with week arms it was designed to work with legs. It would work when I had a short steep climb I could get up it without someone pushing me and that's about all it did. I accidentally turned it on a couple of times with my other arm pulling backward on the crank. That fooled the torque sensor into thinking that zero was actually a negative? After a couple of months of trial and error figuring out exactly what was needed. I knew the exact amount of pressure to put on the backward rotation to get the correct amount of power-assist.
If I didn't pull hard enough the power-assist wasn't strong enough if I pull too hard it was difficult to stop forward rotation. Without power assist my average speed was 5 miles an hour I could ride 25 miles in 5 hours. After I figured out the power assist I could ride an average of 15 miles an hour for 30 miles in 2 hours. Wow-what a difference, I called it maximizing my joy, others said I was cheating, but how can you cheat if you're not competing?
Mark and I have built handcycles with power-assist and XShifter to do all the shifting without all the cables and wires going everywhere. We have built them for the University of Utah's Trails program, Wasatch Adaptive Sports the National Ability Center and some personal handcycles for individuals. The programs help those with disabilities enjoy the outdoors by cycling, skiing, and other activities.
With this new open-source firmware, they can ride and have a power-assist that works correctly without having to pull back on the cranks the correct amount. Although if I just use the weight of my arm hanging from the crank in the backward rotation when I turn on the power assistit with the new firmware it works much better than if I just leave the cranks in a neutral position. We can now tailor the amount of assistance to meet the exact needs of each rider.
Below are some links to my Strava page so you can see how far and how often I'm able to ride!
Thanks for reading and trying to understand,
Jeff
https://www.strava.com/athletes/180753
https://www.strava.com/activities/2648226863
I was thinking in creating a wiki page with your story and some pictures and so this could be an example of what we did achieve with this project, which for me is the real success and then hope this can be the inspiration for other projects alike!!
Knowing this stories, keep me motivated to keep learning for next project, the ELegs: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100507&p=1470879#p1472460
If I want to have the ELegs for myself, I need to keep working on it with focus and forget every other things around. I think I will stop working on TSDZ2 when the firmware for 850C and SW102 have working stable versions, maybe in 4 or 6 months.
Here and them I will put also on the wiki.jeff.page.rides said:Where and how would you like me to share some pictures?