TPEHAK
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OK, here is an update guys. Krasnodar told me he does not care if we will use INNOTRACE name. That is a great news! Now INNOTRACE is ours and we are about to bring it back baby! And the e-bikes god won't burn us with a fire!
I also asked Krasnodar to make a statement here to stop all the speculations about all the concerns he has if he has any so we can discuss. Let's hope he will appear here.
I hope Krasnodar will clarify, but he said to me that he does not want EXFORCE to be mentioned without his authorization because of EXFORCE is his trademark. So we can not even discuss here about EXFORCE without his authorization, lol. So you better do not talk here about EXFORCE except Krasnodar himself will authorize us to do so. Maybe he will come up with whole list of rules we have to follow if we want to mention EXFORCE.
I know there is a thread was closed by the forum administration and now I feel like Krasnodar forced the forum administration to close it because of that thread was started without his authorization or maybe because of the users talked about EXFORCE in not proper manner and posted links with proves INNOTRACE used VESC firmware , lol
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Ideally we need to bring to the conversation both parties, Rico and Krasnodar, we will likely have a lot of questions for both of them, because of what they basically did, is they made their internal problems the people's problems and no one wants to take responsibility. No support, no opportunity to fix and setup the the controllers, no nothing. We had to reverse engineer their controller because of they did not even offer the schematics to make it fixable and did not provide even binaries to make it possible to repair the controller. Instead of it they bankrupted the company, did not deliver the setup program they promised and called it the day and now it is somehow ours problems.
I offered Krasnodar to publish all the necessary binaries and tools to make it possible to repair the controllers, but he refused it. I also offered him to finish the VESC firmware Benjamin Vedder started, and he refused too stating he is not familiar with VESC.
If Krasnodar believes it is Rico fault, fine - share all the necessary tools, binaries and instructions for the INNOTRACE controller with Rico and Rico will publish it for the electric bicycles community. But do not push your problems on the people. We are going to use INNOTRACE name and the INNOTRACE tools if they do not want to provide support and do not want to take responsibility.
Let's hope Krasnodar will reconsider his position and will do the right thing. He can keep making EXFORCE controllers, but the necessary files for the INNOTRACE controllers must be shared with the public.
EB12 told he just want to leave them in peace, fine, good luck and have fun when your INNOTRACE controller will be broken. Krasnodar will not give you any instructions how to repair it. Bud we do believe Krasnodar can do the right thing and share the files and instructions for the people and we are glad this threat took his and another guys associated with him attention.
We do not care who is responsible for the problems you created for us, we do not care about all the lies you spread over the Internet, we do not care about your VESC drama and stuff, we need the solution and we offered plenty of options for you and we even did the work you were responsible for. Or you think the solution is to go and cash you out again and purchase EXFORCE or PulsDrive controller? Really?
I also asked Krasnodar to make a statement here to stop all the speculations about all the concerns he has if he has any so we can discuss. Let's hope he will appear here.
I hope Krasnodar will clarify, but he said to me that he does not want EXFORCE to be mentioned without his authorization because of EXFORCE is his trademark. So we can not even discuss here about EXFORCE without his authorization, lol. So you better do not talk here about EXFORCE except Krasnodar himself will authorize us to do so. Maybe he will come up with whole list of rules we have to follow if we want to mention EXFORCE.
I know there is a thread was closed by the forum administration and now I feel like Krasnodar forced the forum administration to close it because of that thread was started without his authorization or maybe because of the users talked about EXFORCE in not proper manner and posted links with proves INNOTRACE used VESC firmware , lol
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Ideally we need to bring to the conversation both parties, Rico and Krasnodar, we will likely have a lot of questions for both of them, because of what they basically did, is they made their internal problems the people's problems and no one wants to take responsibility. No support, no opportunity to fix and setup the the controllers, no nothing. We had to reverse engineer their controller because of they did not even offer the schematics to make it fixable and did not provide even binaries to make it possible to repair the controller. Instead of it they bankrupted the company, did not deliver the setup program they promised and called it the day and now it is somehow ours problems.
I offered Krasnodar to publish all the necessary binaries and tools to make it possible to repair the controllers, but he refused it. I also offered him to finish the VESC firmware Benjamin Vedder started, and he refused too stating he is not familiar with VESC.
If Krasnodar believes it is Rico fault, fine - share all the necessary tools, binaries and instructions for the INNOTRACE controller with Rico and Rico will publish it for the electric bicycles community. But do not push your problems on the people. We are going to use INNOTRACE name and the INNOTRACE tools if they do not want to provide support and do not want to take responsibility.
Let's hope Krasnodar will reconsider his position and will do the right thing. He can keep making EXFORCE controllers, but the necessary files for the INNOTRACE controllers must be shared with the public.
EB12 told he just want to leave them in peace, fine, good luck and have fun when your INNOTRACE controller will be broken. Krasnodar will not give you any instructions how to repair it. Bud we do believe Krasnodar can do the right thing and share the files and instructions for the people and we are glad this threat took his and another guys associated with him attention.
We do not care who is responsible for the problems you created for us, we do not care about all the lies you spread over the Internet, we do not care about your VESC drama and stuff, we need the solution and we offered plenty of options for you and we even did the work you were responsible for. Or you think the solution is to go and cash you out again and purchase EXFORCE or PulsDrive controller? Really?
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